Sukha Maryada (use of Marijuana/Cannabis)

[paapiman]

Below are links, which are a bit related to this topic.

Woman says micro-dosing marijuana makes her a better mom l GMA - YouTube

A Guide to Microdosing Weed (medmen.com)

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

@Trimandeep Singh

The below is the Rehat given to Shaheed Bhai saab Bhai Mani Singh jee Maharaaj.

 

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ਨਿਜ ਕਰ ਤੇ ਗੁਰ ਅਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਦੀਯੋ । ਮਨੀਏ ਥੀ ਸਿੰਘ ਮਨੀਆ ਕੀਯੋ । ਕਰ ਇਸਨਾਨ ਜਪੈ ਜਪੁ ਜਾਪ । ਛੋਹਿ ਨ ਸਾਕੈ ਤੀਨੋ ਤਾਪ ।

From the Guru's own hands he bestowed Amrit, transforming Mania into Mani Singh, [before telling him], "bathe and recite Japuji and Jaap Sahib; the three pains will never touch you.

 

ਸੂਤ ਮਿਆਨੇਂ ਧੂਪ ਧੁਖਾਇ । ਫਤੇ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਮੁਖੋਂ ਬੁਲਾਇ । ਨੀਲੰਬਰ ਗਜ ਸਵਾ ਕਛਹਿਰੈ । ਦੇਗ ਸਹੀਦੀ ਤੀਜੈ ਪਹਿਰੈ ।

Draw your sword and waft incense over it, from your mouth recite Vahiguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vahiguru Ji Ki Fateh, wear blue clothing, and a Kachera of 4.5 feet of fabric, consume cannabis, the sacrament of the Martyrs [Shahidi Degh] in the early afternoon [third phase of the day]."

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[1] - The Code Given to Shahid Bhai Mani Singh (manglacharan.com)

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

@Trimandeep Singh 

Duties of a Singh, as mentioned in the Naveen Panth Prakash.

 

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ਸਤ੍ਰਾਂ ਸੈ ਸਤਵੰਜੈਂ ਸਾਲੈਂ । ਕਰਯੋ ਮਸੰਦਨ ਕਾ ਯਹਿ ਹਾਲੈਂ । ਪੁਨ ਸਭਿ ਕਾਜ ਸਿੰਘ ਫਿਰ ਕਰਹੀਂ । ਨਿਸ ਦਿਨ ਗੁਰੁ ਆਗ੍ਯਾ ਅਨੁਸਰਹੀਂ ।੧੧੪।

In the year 1757 Bikrami [1700 CE], the Guru [destroyed] the Masands. After that the Singhs would serve in all duties, every day they would perform these in accordance with the Guru's command.

ਪੋਸਤ ਭੰਗ ਅਫੀਮ ਸ਼ਰਾਬੈਂ । ਝਟਕ ਬੱਕਰੇ ਛਕੈਂ ਕਬਾਬੈ । ਖੇਲਹਿ ਨਿੱਤ ਸ਼ਿਕਾਰ ਅਪਾਰੇ । ਮਾਰਹਿਂ ਬਾਘ ਮ੍ਰਿਗ ਝੰਖਾਰੇ ।੧੧੫।

[Consuming] poppy plants, cannabis, opium, and alcohol, they would decapitate [jhatka] goats, and eat kebabs. Everyday they would hunt endlessly, killing leopards, deer and elk.

ਬੀਸ ਪਚਾਸ ਸਿੰਘ ਮਿਲ ਜਾਵੈਂ । ਇਤ ਉਤ ਤੈ ਗ੍ਰਾਮਨ ਲੁਟ ਲ੍ਯਾਵੈਂ । ਦੂਰ ਦੇਸ ਤੁਰਕਨ ਕੇ ਮਾਂਹੀ । ਮਾਰਹਿਂ ਧਾਰੇ ਸੰਕਹਿਂ ਨਾਹੀ ।੧੧੬|

When twenty to fifty Singhs would meet together, they would roam around looting various towns. They would go great distances, into the heartland of the Turks, raiding them fearlessly.

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[1] - Duties of a Singh (manglacharan.com)

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

@Trimandeep Singh

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ਜਬੈ ਜਾਮ ਦਿਨ ਆਨ ਰਹਾਯੋ । ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰ ਬਿਜੀਆ ਪਾਨ ਕਰਾਯੋ ।

When 3 hours were left before sunset [in the afternoon], the Exalted Guru Hargobind drank cannabis.

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[1] - Guru Hargobind's Cannabis Routine (manglacharan.com)

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

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During the encirclement of Anandpur Sahib when supplies were running low, Guru Gobind Singh sent a letter to the Raja of Nahan, Mediniprakash, requesting supplies of opium be sent for the troops. 

 

ਜਲ ਥੰਮਣ ਬੈਰਾਗ ਰਿਪੁ ਥੱਕਿਆ ਬੈਹਣ ਨ ਦੇਹ |

That which keeps moisture away, tears away from one's eyes, and doesn't allow one to sit with fatigue

ਚੰਪਾ ਤੁਮਾਰੇ ਦੇਸ਼ ਮੇਂ ਭੇਜ ਹਮਾਰੇ ਦੇਹਿ |

The opium in your land, send those supplies to me

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[1] - https://www.manglacharan.com/post/guru-gobind-singh-ji-penning-letter-to-raja-of-nahan-requesting-opium

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[Mooorakh]

Kaal is working so well here.. People are supporting lies by quoting jhooti baani from here n there. All these are fraudulent writings - is it anywhere mentioned in Guru Granth Sahib?? Is paapiman a real paapiman trying to degrade sikhi ?? 

Supporting nasha which is a bajjar kurehat and ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE who helped punjab turn into Urda punjab?? All pakhandis grossed in chitta? And the worst part is that you are quoting it Under the name of my Gurus. I feel like hitting you ON THE FACE. SUCH A SHAME. 

How can admin allow such crap --@sarabatamveerji

I tell you all if there is a flaw or a problem in a person's house he doesn't go out Blabbering about it to the whole world rather he tries to conceal it- the way Muslims conceal sunnat or Bakar id behind pious stories. BUT YOU PEOPLE ARE BAD NAMING A RELIGION WHICH DOESN'T HAVE ANY FLAWS. HOW dare you? If you call yourselves sikhs then I am ashamed of being a part of it

@paapiman please remove all this crap from a public forum and if you support drugs do it in your house not under the name of MY GURUS -   I warn you. 

[Mooorakh]

Now! As for Bhakti let me tell you wats mentioned in Guru Granth Sahib ji. He says

ਜੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡੇ ਸੋਈ ਪਿੰਡੇ ਜੋ ਖੋਜੈ ਸੋ ਪਾਵੈ ॥

Jo Brehamanddae Soee Pinddae Jo Khojai So Paavai ||

The One who pervades the Universe also dwells in the body; 

ਜੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡੇ ਸੋਈ ਪਿੰਡੇ ਜੋ ਖੋਜੈ ਸੋ ਪਾਵੈ ॥

Jo Brehamanddae Soee Pinddae Jo Khojai So Paavai ||

The One who pervades the Universe also dwells in the body; 

So when one sits in Bhakti they generate the super energy and intoxication of mind called - Sunn - (quietness) to enter the state of silence- samaadhi. All the abhiyaasi sikhs would know it as they experience it daily. There's a mention of such harmone being produced in the mind by Lucky veerji somewhere here on the forum. So the way these natural herbs grow on the earth they are produced in one's mind as well -- Kabir jee call it taari    We read it as Naam khumaari too--- Guru k Chardikala waale singhs were capable enough to do this JOG and get United in the feet of the Lord plus get the power to win any yudhh -- so please stop spreading these jhooti kahaniyaa and if you have little awareness - don't read them yourself too - else you won't be able to save yourself as well cos NO VIVEKI sikh is going to believe the crap you have posted - only few foolish followers may - dubb mooye bug bapde sir tull upar paav- along with - SO EVERYONE BE AWARE

I am sorry for being rude but I mean each n every word of it 

[GurjantGnostic]

2 hours ago, Mooorakh said:

Now! As for Bhakti let me tell you wats mentioned in Guru Granth Sahib ji. He says

ਜੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡੇ ਸੋਈ ਪਿੰਡੇ ਜੋ ਖੋਜੈ ਸੋ ਪਾਵੈ ॥

Jo Brehamanddae Soee Pinddae Jo Khojai So Paavai ||

The One who pervades the Universe also dwells in the body; 

ਜੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡੇ ਸੋਈ ਪਿੰਡੇ ਜੋ ਖੋਜੈ ਸੋ ਪਾਵੈ ॥

Jo Brehamanddae Soee Pinddae Jo Khojai So Paavai ||

The One who pervades the Universe also dwells in the body; 

So when one sits in Bhakti they generate the super energy and intoxication of mind called - Sunn - (quietness) to enter the state of silence- samaadhi. All the abhiyaasi sikhs would know it as they experience it daily. There's a mention of such harmone being produced in the mind by Lucky veerji somewhere here on the forum. So the way these natural herbs grow on the earth they are produced in one's mind as well -- Kabir jee call it taari    We read it as Naam khumaari too--- Guru k Chardikala waale singhs were capable enough to do this JOG and get United in the feet of the Lord plus get the power to win any yudhh -- so please stop spreading these jhooti kahaniyaa and if you have little awareness - don't read them yourself too - else you won't be able to save yourself as well cos NO VIVEKI sikh is going to believe the crap you have posted - only few foolish followers may - dubb mooye bug bapde sir tull upar paav- along with - SO EVERYONE BE AWARE

I am sorry for being rude but I mean each n every word of it 

Between the Sunn and the boundless energy Simran provides, some.of the people at work think I'm on drugs. Lol. The reason is they're on drugs and can't keep up .

[paapiman]

15 hours ago, Mooorakh said:

Kaal is working so well here.. People are supporting lies by quoting jhooti baani from here n there. All these are fraudulent writings - is it anywhere mentioned in Guru Granth Sahib?? Is paapiman a real paapiman trying to degrade sikhi ?? 

Supporting nasha which is a bajjar kurehat and ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE who helped punjab turn into Urda punjab?? All pakhandis grossed in chitta? And the worst part is that you are quoting it Under the name of my Gurus. I feel like hitting you ON THE FACE. SUCH A SHAME. 

How can admin allow such crap --@sarabatamveerji

I tell you all if there is a flaw or a problem in a person's house he doesn't go out Blabbering about it to the whole world rather he tries to conceal it- the way Muslims conceal sunnat or Bakar id behind pious stories. BUT YOU PEOPLE ARE BAD NAMING A RELIGION WHICH DOESN'T HAVE ANY FLAWS. HOW dare you? If you call yourselves sikhs then I am ashamed of being a part of it

@paapiman please remove all this crap from a public forum and if you support drugs do it in your house not under the name of MY GURUS -   I warn you. 

 

15 hours ago, Mooorakh said:

Now! As for Bhakti let me tell you wats mentioned in Guru Granth Sahib ji. He says

ਜੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡੇ ਸੋਈ ਪਿੰਡੇ ਜੋ ਖੋਜੈ ਸੋ ਪਾਵੈ ॥

Jo Brehamanddae Soee Pinddae Jo Khojai So Paavai ||

The One who pervades the Universe also dwells in the body; 

ਜੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡੇ ਸੋਈ ਪਿੰਡੇ ਜੋ ਖੋਜੈ ਸੋ ਪਾਵੈ ॥

Jo Brehamanddae Soee Pinddae Jo Khojai So Paavai ||

The One who pervades the Universe also dwells in the body; 

So when one sits in Bhakti they generate the super energy and intoxication of mind called - Sunn - (quietness) to enter the state of silence- samaadhi. All the abhiyaasi sikhs would know it as they experience it daily. There's a mention of such harmone being produced in the mind by Lucky veerji somewhere here on the forum. So the way these natural herbs grow on the earth they are produced in one's mind as well -- Kabir jee call it taari    We read it as Naam khumaari too--- Guru k Chardikala waale singhs were capable enough to do this JOG and get United in the feet of the Lord plus get the power to win any yudhh -- so please stop spreading these jhooti kahaniyaa and if you have little awareness - don't read them yourself too - else you won't be able to save yourself as well cos NO VIVEKI sikh is going to believe the crap you have posted - only few foolish followers may - dubb mooye bug bapde sir tull upar paav- along with - SO EVERYONE BE AWARE

I am sorry for being rude but I mean each n every word of it 

@dalsingh101 @chatanga1 @sarabatam

Please help (in replying) big brothers.

Thanks a lot

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

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Giani Gian Singh, in his Naveen Panth Prakash [1880], describes the celebrations following a military campaign victory by Baghel Singh's troops, the Karora Misal, and the Raja of Patiala, Amar Singh

The Raja [Amar Singh] pleased the entire army by making a sweet Cannabis Sacrament [Bhang Ki Degh] in milk

Drinking this cannabis the Nihang Bhujangis were greatly pleased with the Raja

Also great amounts of Karah Prashaad were made and freely distributed to the Panth [army of Karora Singhia Misal]

In this way great amounts of Karah Prashaad and Bhang Ki Degh [Cannabis Sacrament] was distributed to the Panth and the Raja became greatly loved by the Singhs

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[1] - Military Celebrations (manglacharan.com)

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

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After leaving Chamkaur Sahib, Guru Gobind Singh was separated from the Singhs, and had sustained injuries to his feet. Maan Singh, Daya Singh, and Dharam Singh found Guru Gobind Singh and then they proceeded to Gulaba Masand's house where this dialogue takes place.

From the auspicious mouth of the Guru, he said to those around him, "Go bring large amounts of Cannabis and black pepper

I have gone a long time without any intoxicants, this beverage brings great happiness to my mind" Gulaba the Masand heard these words and got ready to leave, he went to the market to purchase these items. 

When the Guru was seated in this orchard, the Masand went quickly to the city to complete his task. Guru Gobind Singh had taken the milk of the Ak plant [for medication, commonly called the 'Apple of Sodom'] but it had caused dryness [on his feet]. He desired an intoxicant to drink [which would remove this pain].

In understanding that in his company there were three Singhs, he asked them, "does anyone have Cannabis close at hand?" Maan Singh had small amounts [of cannabis] wrapped up, and hearing this the Guru told him to unwrap it.

[Maan Singh] had prepared the small amounts of cannabis and gave it to Guru Gobind Singh, the drink was extremely strong and the Guru drinking it was extremely pleased and gave a blessing to Maan Singh - "Within the Khalsa there will be Panth that belongs to you.

It will be beautifully adorned in your attire and demeanor - countless in number they will be called Akali Nihangs." In this way about half an hour passed, but their desire for more intoxicants remained.

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[1] - "Go bring large amounts of Cannabis and black pepper" - Guru Gobind Singh (manglacharan.com)

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

18 hours ago, Mooorakh said:

Supporting nasha which is a bajjar kurehat

Consumption of Tobacco (in any form) is a Bajjar Kurehat.

Consumption of Alcohol is also a Kurehat.

In general, Gurbani discourages the consumption of all intoxicants.

Intoxicants were primarily used as pain killers by Singhs in the past.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[Mooorakh]

5 hours ago, paapiman said:

bring large amounts of Cannabis and black pepper" - Guru Gobind Singh (manglacharan.com)

 

Bhul chuk maaf

See Mister this is no baani.. These are all false stories.. So you better stop promoting these crappy stuff else YOUR BHOOL CHUK IS NOT MAAF cos this is INTENTIONAL no bhool

 

None of the Sikh Gurus ever supported Nasha . Period

[paapiman]

Below are some more references to Sukha in our historical texts.

Sukha | Jhatka Maryada

 

Bhul chuk maaf

 

[GurjantGnostic]

7 hours ago, Mooorakh said:

See Mister this is no baani.. These are all false stories.. So you better stop promoting these crappy stuff else YOUR BHOOL CHUK IS NOT MAAF cos this is INTENTIONAL no bhool

 

None of the Sikh Gurus ever supported Nasha . Period">

So, after battle when you have tens or hundreds of survivors, or soon to die, dismembered, disembowled, eyeball hanging out Soormas, the ever loving, ultimately compassionate Father of them all prescribed what to ease their agony exactly?

If someone pulled you out a pile of shit and blood and dead bodies, and took you to the side and cut your leg off, your supposed aversion to Afeem might dissipate friend. 

Not everybody in a Fauj is Baba Deep Singh Shaheed. 

Only some Soorma are going to have high enough Avastha to Naam Jaap through amputation and surgery etc. 

There are allied forces, non Sikhs, helping in some of these battles. You think the Guru had no Afeem for them as part of the supply chain for war?

When you go to war, your mobility, food, water, weapons all have to be seen to. You bring supplies for the dead, for the wish they were dead. When you go to war the necessary supplies make it obvious how brutal, disgusting, degrading, disfiguring, crippling and lethal what you are about to do is. 

You're a little red in the face Veer Ji over something that is honestly your own naivity. 

Just because Guru Granth Sahib Ji doesn't cover field medicine methods of the Faujs doesn't mean they didn't have to practice medicine and surgery bro. That kind of info, or historical accounts would be covered elsewhere....like probably where @paapiman is quoting from. 

 

[GurjantGnostic]

@Mooorakh

Here's a social experiment. Go stand over the divet ground into the floor of Hazur Sahib, where they grind Sukha for Bhang, and tell the Akalis you want to hit them in the face. Then when you're eating through a straw for six months we can see if you want some codine or nah. Lol

. 

 

[Mooorakh]

18 hours ago, paapiman said:

bring large amounts of Cannabis and black pepper" - Guru Gobind Singh (manglacharan.com)

 

Bhul chuk maaf

See Mister this is no baani.. These are all false stories.. So you better stop promoting these crappy stuff else YOUR BHOOL CHUK IS NOT MAAF cos this is INTENTIONAL no bhool

 

None of the Sikh Gurus ever supported Nasha . Period

[dalsingh101]

5 minutes ago, Mooorakh said:

 

None of the Sikh Gurus ever supported Nasha . Period

Agreed. But what about the use of psychotropic substances for non nasha purposes? Medicinal uses. 

[GurjantGnostic]

7 minutes ago, Mooorakh said:

See Mister this is no baani.. These are all false stories.. So you better stop promoting these crappy stuff else YOUR BHOOL CHUK IS NOT MAAF cos this is INTENTIONAL no bhool

 

None of the Sikh Gurus ever supported Nasha . Period">

You ignored my question and you owe @paapiman an apology in my opinion for how Krodhi you are bro. What are you doing to keep that in check?

[Mooorakh]

Krodh n rosh are two different aspects.. If I don't get in krodh when a paapiman is writing crap about My Guru Sahib I am better not alive

@dalsingh101 veerji - he's writing caanbis as refreshing drink etc for Guru Sahib , also mentioning that Guru Hargobind Sahib used to consume it. - As a Medicine I understand is a different aspect

 

@GurjantGnostic so you agree that Real sikhs like Baba Deep Singh ji has the Jog abilities mentioned in Guru Granth Sahib ji to keep himself intoxicated in the love of Guru and don't need any outside Nasha. So read the fake codes above where he's defaming Gurus themselves taking this crap... My larai is not about medicine. You guys didn't read his quotes then... N Btw

Guru Granth Sahib covers everything - our nervous system, Human brain and what not? Study about today's science on human brain and you will get to know that an average human being like me and you doesn't use even 10%of our brains. Our brains have a lot of power. Guru k sikhs and Guru ji himself developed this power by bhakti, where they can use their nerves to heal, cut off from pain etc  

[dalsingh101]

22 minutes ago, Mooorakh said:

My larai is not about medicine. You guys didn't read his quotes then... 

It's not like he wrote them. To be honest, I'm just glad to have access to puratan stuff to read out of interest. I don't agree with everything within. I think suppressing or hiding texts is a very bad thing. 

The earliest account I have read referencing afeem use is in Sri Gursobha by Sainapati, who is supposed to be a contemporary to dasmesh pita. They write in a way that suggests Singhs may have used some for long horse journeys.  Now most people accept Gursobha as the work of a Darbaari Kavi - so why would he lie? Or maybe the use in that kind of way was no big deal then? 

Hazur Sahib Sikhs claim they have a box that Guru ji used to carry afeem. That doesn't mean Guru ji used it themselves, they might of had it for injured fighters?

Singhs (especially Akalis) using bhang has loads of early references both internal (as in Bhangu's Panth Prakash) and external in umpteen early european accounts.  Cannabis has loads of medicinal uses that the west are only grasping now - I think our ancestors understood the use of the stuff in the past (liek using leaf and not bud).

I just think that Panjabi culture used these things in various ways outside of getting off your head.

And I understand that we have a serious chittah problem in Panjab, but I think those fuddhus would do it regardless of what any old granth says.  

[dalsingh101]

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Guru k sikhs and Guru ji himself developed this power by bhakti, where they can use their nerves to heal, cut off from pain etc  

Most Sikhs can't do this. I read about Sukha Singh who later slew Massa Ranghar. In one battle he broke his leg, he fought through the battle by tying his broken leg to the saddle of his horse or something similar, but later had to go to a hakim to get his leg set properly. Plus he was known to take sukha according to Bhangu (might be where he got his name from maybe?) 

[paapiman]

40 minutes ago, Mooorakh said:

he's writing caanbis as refreshing drink etc for Guru Sahib , also mentioning that Guru Hargobind Sahib used to consume it. - As a Medicine I understand is a different aspect

Sri Satguru jee might have used Cannabis as a medical supplement too.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

6 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

So, after battle when you have tens or hundreds of survivors, or soon to die, dismembered, disembowled, eyeball hanging out Soormas, the ever loving, ultimately compassionate Father of them all prescribed what to ease their agony exactly?

If someone pulled you out a pile of shit and blood and dead bodies, and took you to the side and cut your leg off, your supposed aversion to Afeem might dissipate friend. 

Not everybody in a Fauj is Baba Deep Singh Shaheed. 

Only some Soorma are going to have high enough Avastha to Naam Jaap through amputation and surgery etc. 

There are allied forces, non Sikhs, helping in some of these battles. You think the Guru had no Afeem for them as part of the supply chain for war?

When you go to war, your mobility, food, water, weapons all have to be seen to. You bring supplies for the dead, for the wish they were dead. When you go to war the necessary supplies make it obvious how brutal, disgusting, degrading, disfiguring, crippling and lethal what you are about to do is. 

You're a little red in the face Veer Ji over something that is honestly your own naivity. 

Just because Guru Granth Sahib Ji doesn't cover field medicine methods of the Faujs doesn't mean they didn't have to practice medicine and surgery bro. That kind of info, or historical accounts would be covered elsewhere....like probably where @paapiman is quoting from. 

Absolutely brilliant points brother.

Thanks a lot

 

Bhul chuk  maaf

[paapiman]

6 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

You're a little red in the face Veer Ji over something that is honestly your own naivity. 

She is a Bibi jee, not a Veer ji...lol.

 

Bhul chuk maaf