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I actually want to write a lot on this thread.. but whats the point....

chalo... personally i had  a lot of material/duniyavi gains from this mantar, which enabled me to do bhagti of the one divine..

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On 6/3/2016 at 5:14 PM, Ragmaala said:

Lets hear it bro. I am in need of some duniyavi gains too.

There are other Jaaps for worldly gains. This Mantar seems to be very powerful. Daas is pretty sure that my body is not ready to absorb its power/energy. Please have a look at the below.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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21 hours ago, paapiman said:

There are other Jaaps for worldly gains. This Mantar seems to be very powerful. Daas is pretty sure that my body is not ready to absorb its power/energy. Please have a look at the below.

 

What mantars are they?

 

Also is it nirnaamey or nrinaamey? I've heard some people say its on and some say the other

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4 hours ago, paapiman said:

Guest jee - Check out the Sankat Mochan App. There are some Jaaps in there for worldly gains such as wealth and happiness, success in agriculture, happiness at home, success in education, etc.

It is Nrinaamey.  Nanna is mukta and Sihari is applied on Rara (the one at the foot of Nanna).

ਨ੍ਰਿਨਾਮੇ ॥

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Thank you. Strange that ive heard the likes of Giani Thakur Singh pronounce it nirnaamey then.

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4 hours ago, Guest GSP said:

Thank you. Strange that ive heard the likes of Giani Thakur Singh pronounce it nirnaamey then.

Punjabi has Prakrit words bhaisahab..Stuti is prounounced as Ustat ..the jorhh akshar cannot be pronouced smoothly by Punjabis nor goes Gurmukhi have jorhh akshars as much .

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Yeh in that case put your foot down and if things do go abit pear shaped just pm me and there's small practical things that will help control/harness the shakti.. these are things suggested to me by baba joginder singh (raqba) ..saying that it may just be a case of karm accelerating..


 

Could you please share these practical things to do? 

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On 2016-06-06 at 7:32 AM, jaikaara said:

Punjabi has Prakrit words bhaisahab..Stuti is prounounced as Ustat ..the jorhh akshar cannot be pronouced smoothly by Punjabis nor goes Gurmukhi have jorhh akshars as much .

ਉਸਤਤਿ is actually pronounced as Stuti?

Wow I didn't know that. That actually makes sense. That's why ਉਸਤਤਿ has a Sihari. (The Sihari matters! - is what I've been saying for a long time.)

There are so many words we are pronouncing incorrectly while reading Gurbani. And tragically, the santhya teachers don't know correct pronunciations either.

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8 hours ago, BhagatSingh said:

ਉਸਤਤਿ is actually pronounced as Stuti?

Wow I didn't know that. That actually makes sense. That's why ਉਸਤਤਿ has a Sihari. (The Sihari matters! - is what I've been saying for a long time.)

There are so many words we are pronouncing incorrectly while reading Gurbani. And tragically, the santhya teachers don't know correct pronunciations either.

Well we cant say if it is wrong because there is always a colloquial way to say things , the aussie english and the england english is way differently spoken even though the spellings are the same .

The name Prabhakaran is written by Tamils as Pirahvakaran because thats how they say it ..The Singh and Sinh both used in Gurbani they mean the same.

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8 hours ago, jaikaara said:

Well we cant say if it is wrong because there is always a colloquial way to say things , the aussie english and the england english is way differently spoken even though the spellings are the same .

The name Prabhakaran is written by Tamils as Pirahvakaran because thats how they say it ..The Singh and Sinh both used in Gurbani they mean the same.

The reason why I say it is wrong is because of how it is spelled in Gurbani.

Like so - ਉਸਤਤਿ

This seems like an attempt to spell Stuti rather than Ustat.

ਉਸਤਤ does not appear in Gurbani. Therefore Ustat is the wrong way to say it.

Ustati would be closer to how Gurbani spells it out. But when you carefully observe that the Oorha ਉ is there to cause the conjoining of ਸ and ਤ (in 'stu') and to cause you to round off your lips (in order to pronounce 'stu'), then you realize why Guru Sahibs spelled Stuti as ਉਸਤਤਿ.

Similar to the word ਅਸਥਿਰ, where the ਅ causes the ਸ and ਥ to be pronounced as conjoined, causing it to be pronounced as Sthir. if the ਅ was not there, you'd be pronouncing ਸਥਿਰ as Sa-Thir, which is wrong. Spelling it as ਸਤੁਤਿ would result in Sa - Tu - ti, which is wrong.

The vowels automatically cause the conjoining of consonants.

ਉ causes ਸਤ to combine, in ਉਸਤਤਿ.
ਅ causes ਸਥ to combine in ਅਸਥਿਰ.
That is their purpose.

Then when ਉ and ਅ are made silent you automatically get the accurate pronunciation as it is pronounced in Sanskrit.

The ਉ and ਅ are silent in the above ਉਸਤਤਿ and ਅਸਥਿਰ.

 

Other spellings where letters are used to represent pronunciation are -

- Jeev ਜੀਵ as ਜੀਅ, the ਅ is not an ਅ here. It represents something else, a v.

- Also similar to the spelling of ਸੰਭਵਿਅਉ, ਸੈਭੰ and ਸੰਭਉ to represent the word Swaimbhau - ਸ੍ਵੰਭਉ

 

8 hours ago, jaikaara said:

Well we cant say if it is wrong because there is always a colloquial way to say things , the aussie english and the england english is way differently spoken even though the spellings are the same .

The name Prabhakaran is written by Tamils as Pirahvakaran because thats how they say it ..The Singh and Sinh both used in Gurbani they mean the same.

What you are talking about applies to the word -

ਅਸਥੂਲ
Because the original is ਸ੍‍ਥੂਰ.

In ਅਸਥੂਲ the ਅ is silent but the colloquial way to say ਸ੍‍ਥੂਰ is with a ਲ .

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18 hours ago, BhagatSingh said:

ਉਸਤਤਿ is actually pronounced as Stuti?

Wow I didn't know that. That actually makes sense. That's why ਉਸਤਤਿ has a Sihari. (The Sihari matters! - is what I've been saying for a long time.)

Bro, is there any samprada (which trace their roots to Sri Satguru jee), which pronounces ਉਸਤਤਿ as Stuti? If so, can you please link us to the reference.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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6 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Bro, is there any samprada (which trace their roots to Sri Satguru jee), which pronounces ਉਸਤਤਿ as Stuti? If so, can you please link us to the reference.

Yes there's that sampardya started by Ustad Nar Singh ji Narayan. :P

I honestly don't know of any sampradya except for that one. I don't follow any of them.

PS you ignored the code I cracked on the existence of silent letters. In the above post, I (he) explained why these silent letters exist and the purpose they serve in pronunciation. This is true not only in Gurbani and but also in English as well, but that's a different topic.

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