Jagtar Singh Jaggi Petition

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[GurjantGnostic]

1 hour ago, Premi said:

 

 

I remember signing one of those. Then every ahole on ss tried to use that signature to dox me. I'd sign again, just pointing out the type of lowlife snakes we have all over this sandalwood tree. 

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[Premi]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/01/foreign-office-uk-sikh-activist-india-keir-starmer-jagtar-singh-johal

Foreign Office scaling back support for UK Sikh activist held in India, Keir Starmer says

Peter Walker Political correspondent 

Wed 1 Mar 2023 10.07 GMT

Sunak’s government has refused to echo assertion that Jagtar Singh Johal is being arbitrarily detained

Rishi Sunak and the Foreign Office appear to be scaling back the UK’s support for Jagtar Singh Johal, the British Sikh activist held in an Indian jail for five years, his family and Keir Starmer have said.

Sunak’s government has refused invitations to echo Boris Johnson’s assertion that the Indian government has arbitrarily detained Johal, a term seen as significant because it means the UK does not recognise there is a proper legal basis to hold him.

Sunak and the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO) say only they note the view of the United Nation’s working group on arbitrary detention, which said in May last year that Johal was being arbitrarily detained.

Early in February, Starmer wrote to Sunak, saying Johnson’s acceptance of the arbitrary detention, in June last year, was “an important step”.

“I would like to ask if you can confirm if the UK government still believes that Jagtar is being arbitrarily detained and if so, what further steps your government will take to secure a breakthrough in the case?” the Labour leader wrote.

But in a reply to Starmer, seen by the legal campaign group Reprieve, who are assisting the family, Sunak avoided the direct question, saying that the FCDO “continues to provide consular support” to Singh and the family.

[GurjantGnostic]

27 minutes ago, Premi said:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/01/foreign-office-uk-sikh-activist-india-keir-starmer-jagtar-singh-johal

Foreign Office scaling back support for UK Sikh activist held in India, Keir Starmer says

Peter Walker Political correspondent 

Wed 1 Mar 2023 10.07 GMT

Sunak’s government has refused to echo assertion that Jagtar Singh Johal is being arbitrarily detained

Rishi Sunak and the Foreign Office appear to be scaling back the UK’s support for Jagtar Singh Johal, the British Sikh activist held in an Indian jail for five years, his family and Keir Starmer have said.

Sunak’s government has refused invitations to echo Boris Johnson’s assertion that the Indian government has arbitrarily detained Johal, a term seen as significant because it means the UK does not recognise there is a proper legal basis to hold him.

Sunak and the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO) say only they note the view of the United Nation’s working group on arbitrary detention, which said in May last year that Johal was being arbitrarily detained.

Early in February, Starmer wrote to Sunak, saying Johnson’s acceptance of the arbitrary detention, in June last year, was “an important step”.

“I would like to ask if you can confirm if the UK government still believes that Jagtar is being arbitrarily detained and if so, what further steps your government will take to secure a breakthrough in the case?” the Labour leader wrote.

But in a reply to Starmer, seen by the legal campaign group Reprieve, who are assisting the family, Sunak avoided the direct question, saying that the FCDO “continues to provide consular support” to Singh and the family.

Scaling back? Can you scale back zero?

[GurjantGnostic]

Yehp, been kalyug all day

[Premi]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64951436

 

Sikh activist torture 'not admitted' - UK government

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  2 hours ago

By Calum McKay & Katie Hunter

BBC Scotland

 

The UK government has said it does not accept that a Scottish Sikh activist was tortured after being detained in India on terror charges.

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The UK government has a longstanding policy of neither confirming nor denying public statements about the role of its intelligence services, but it has now responded formally to Mr Johal's legal action and some of his allegations.

In court papers, its lawyers write: "For the avoidance of doubt, the allegations of torture and/or inhuman or degrading treatment by the Punjab Police… are not admitted."

And they say the UK government denies having "caused, contributed to [or] legal responsibility for any personal injuries, loss or damage suffered by" Mr Johal.

 

They make several references to Mr Johal having been visited by consular staff from the British High Commission in the days after his detention and appearing "fine", with "no visible injuries".

They also say "When asked about mistreatment [Mr Johal] said he wanted to discuss this at the next visit."

Mr Johal's family and legal representatives believe this defence is at odds with public and other statements made by UK government officials on his case, and that material has been "selectively quoted".

His brother Gurpreet Singh Johal said he was "extremely disappointed" by the UK government's response to his brother's legal claim.

[GurjantGnostic]

41 minutes ago, Premi said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64951436

 

Sikh activist torture 'not admitted' - UK government

• Published
  2 hours ago

By Calum McKay & Katie Hunter

BBC Scotland

 

The UK government has said it does not accept that a Scottish Sikh activist was tortured after being detained in India on terror charges.

....

 

The UK government has a longstanding policy of neither confirming nor denying public statements about the role of its intelligence services, but it has now responded formally to Mr Johal's legal action and some of his allegations.

In court papers, its lawyers write: "For the avoidance of doubt, the allegations of torture and/or inhuman or degrading treatment by the Punjab Police… are not admitted."

And they say the UK government denies having "caused, contributed to [or] legal responsibility for any personal injuries, loss or damage suffered by" Mr Johal.

 

They make several references to Mr Johal having been visited by consular staff from the British High Commission in the days after his detention and appearing "fine", with "no visible injuries".

They also say "When asked about mistreatment [Mr Johal] said he wanted to discuss this at the next visit."

Mr Johal's family and legal representatives believe this defence is at odds with public and other statements made by UK government officials on his case, and that material has been "selectively quoted".

His brother Gurpreet Singh Johal said he was "extremely disappointed" by the UK government's response to his brother's legal claim.

Well as long as they didn't admit it. Solved. 

[GurjantGnostic]

Devils not even bothering to keep up appearances at this point. 

[Premi]

 

 

Maybe he can speak up?

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[GurjantGnostic]

25 minutes ago, Premi said:

 

 

 

Ooof. We've let bro down. 

Remember when ss admin let me get doxed for signing the petition? 

Dude is a total pos. 

That was super cool. 

[GurjantGnostic]

Can't wait to wrek that dude. Socially and metaphysically that is. 

Dude is going to be issuing massive apologies or turning over ss to another sevadar. 

 

[Premi]

30 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

 

 or turning over ss to another sevadar. 

 

 

https://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/86808-takeover-or-handover-of-sikhsangat-forum/

 

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1 hour ago, Premi said:

 

https://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/86808-takeover-or-handover-of-sikhsangat-forum/

 

Oh so it was a new mod pos that replaced the previous pos?

[Premi]

6 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Oh so it was a new mod pos that replaced the previous pos?

S1ngh was a founder of the site and I think long time moderator 

I don't think anyone else has volunteered to take over

 

 

 

 

 

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https://www.sikh24.com/2020/03/28/art-for-jaggi/

 

[GurjantGnostic]

On 5/1/2023 at 2:42 AM, Premi said:

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Premi said:

https://www.sikh24.com/2020/03/28/art-for-jaggi/

 

Great stuff here. 

[Premi]

Family of Dumbarton's Jagtar Singh Johal hail 'a major breakthrough' in case

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7 hours ago, Premi said:

Family of Dumbarton's Jagtar Singh Johal hail 'a major breakthrough' in case

Unfortunately farsicle. 

Until they are forced Jaggi will be there. 

It'll take a decision maker feeling personal terror. 

Or a politician making it a campaign issue for their own benefit. 

[Premi]

Brother of Briton held in India says UK government is ‘more talk and no action’

Geneva Abdul

@GenevaAbdul

Tue 12 Sep 2023 07.00 BST

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/12/brother-of-briton-held-in-india-says-uk-government-is-more-talk-and-no-action

The brother of a British man held in an Indian jail for six years fears the UK government is “more talk” and “no action”, after Rishi Sunak raised the case with Narendra Modi at the recent G20 summit in Delhi.

Jagtar Singh Johal, 36, claims to have been tortured and forced to make a confession since he was detained in India in 2017. He faces terrorism charges and the first stages of his trial have only just got under way after repeated delays caused by disputes over evidence. He denies the charges, and he could face a death sentence if convicted.

 

More than 70 MPs had called on Sunak before the summit to request Johal’s release and the British prime minister said he raised the case with his Indian counterpart. He told broadcasters in Delhi: “Yes, I was able to, alongside a range of other consular issues that Prime Minister Modi and I discussed in the time that we had.”

Johal’s older brother, Gurpreet, a solicitor and Labour councillor on West Dunbartonshire council who has campaigned tirelessly over the case, said: “I fear that this is just more talk from the UK government and no action.”

While he was pleased that the prime minister had raised his brother’s case, he said it was not enough unless Sunak called for his release, in line with findings of the UN working group on arbitrary detention that acknowledged Johal’s arbitrary detention was in breach of human rights law and said he should be freed immediately. The government has previously argued it would not be in Johal’s best interests to do so.

“Clearly, the prime minister had no option other than to raise Jagtar’s case after so many members of parliament demanded he do so,” Gurpreet said. “The campaign continues until Jagtar is back home in Scotland.”

 

Jagtar Singh Johal has been held since 2017. Photograph: PA

He believes the government is reluctant to take a stronger stance because it is “hellbent” on trying to secure a free trade deal with India. After 18 months of tortuous negotiations, the UK has yet to seal an agreement that was one of the great promises of Brexit.

 

“It is categorically clear why they’re trying to do everything to appease the Indians, but the fact remains that the UK pride themselves on standing up for human rights, then they have to do so here,” Gurpreet said.

The legal NGO Reprieve, which is representing Johal, said previous prime ministers had also raised the case but Johal remained in prison.

“The government often says ministers have raised the case a hundred times, as if that makes their failure to seek the release of an arbitrarily detained British national any less shameful,” said Reprieve’s joint executive director Maya Foa. “What did Rishi Sunak say to Narendra Modi about the case and how did he respond? Without answers to these questions, the prime minister’s talk is meaningless.”

Gurpreet, 38, recalled a phone call he received in the UK on 4 November 2017 from his sister-in-law in Punjab days after the couple’s wedding. She She was in a panic, he said, having seen her husband abducted, hooded and pulled into a van by plainclothes officers.

Johal was held incommunicado for 10 days and denied consular assistance or access to a lawyer. He was accused of a role in killings by the Khalistan Liberation Force (KLF), a banned terrorist organisation – a charge he denies.

 

“There’s not a day that goes by that you wish you could turn back the clock and we never went to India,” Gurpreet said. Over the last six years he has had two video calls with Johal. Their last phone call was in early August.

“Today it’s my brother, tomorrow it could be yours,” he said. “If Britain doesn’t stand up for its citizens then we’re going to be liable to problems in every single country.”

Earlier this year, newly filed court papers revealed that the Foreign Office had asked for claims to be examined in a secret court that Johal was detained and tortured after the security services passed intelligence to the Indian government.

Last year, Boris Johnson acknowledged that the Indian authorities had arbitrarily detained Johal and said the UK government had consistently raised concerns about his treatment and right to a fair trial.

Gurpreet said: “It’s categorically clear, if I don’t put pressure, with the community and the support that we do have, then the UK government would have sat idle and they will let this drag on for as long as they can. I’ve just got to keep fighting because if I don’t do it, nobody else is going to do it.”

A UK government spokesperson said: “The UK government is committed to seeing Jagtar Singh Johal’s case resolved as soon as possible. We continue to provide consular assistance to Mr Johal and his family and have consistently raised his case directly with the government of India.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gurpreet Singh Johal calls for increased pressure to free brother Jagtar after Rishi Sunak raised case with Narendra Modi

The brother of a British man held in an Indian jail for six years fears the UK government is “more talk” and “no action”, after Rishi Sunak raised the case with Narendra Modi at the recent G20 summit in Delhi.

Jagtar Singh Johal, 36, claims to have been tortured and forced to make a confession since he was detained in India in 2017. He faces terrorism charges and the first stages of his trial have only just got under way after repeated delays caused by disputes over evidence. He denies the charges, and he could face a death sentence if convicted.

 

More than 70 MPs had called on Sunak before the summit to request Johal’s release and the British prime minister said he raised the case with his Indian counterpart. He told broadcasters in Delhi: “Yes, I was able to, alongside a range of other consular issues that Prime Minister Modi and I discussed in the time that we had.”

Johal’s older brother, Gurpreet, a solicitor and Labour councillor on West Dunbartonshire council who has campaigned tirelessly over the case, said: “I fear that this is just more talk from the UK government and no action.”

While he was pleased that the prime minister had raised his brother’s case, he said it was not enough unless Sunak called for his release, in line with findings of the UN working group on arbitrary detention that acknowledged Johal’s arbitrary detention was in breach of human rights law and said he should be freed immediately. The government has previously argued it would not be in Johal’s best interests to do so.

“Clearly, the prime minister had no option other than to raise Jagtar’s case after so many members of parliament demanded he do so,” Gurpreet said. “The campaign continues until Jagtar is back home in Scotland.”

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11 hours ago, Premi said:

Akal Sahai. Chardikala.