Battling Addiction with Gurbani

[paapiman]

12 hours ago, Jageera said:

But a good product for lung health/strength is boiled crocodile skin with chinese herbs or dried crocodile meat made into soup. I feel the lungs get stronger after a 3 day course of this.Extremely good for lungs.

Has the above treatment been approved by Western scientists? Are you based in the West?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

12 hours ago, Jageera said:

Exercising is a must for this to work.Helps elevating mood and keeps mind away from thoughts of substances at least during exercise time.

So how is your situation now bro? 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[Jageera]

On 4/1/2021 at 1:54 PM, paapiman said:

Has the above treatment been approved by Western scientists? Are you based in the West?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

No in Asia.

Im not sure about western scientists.It was recommended to me by the sinseh in the traditional chinese medicine shop.Worked very well for me so I've been recommending it to those with lung problems since.Feedback has always been positive.

[Jageera]

On 4/1/2021 at 1:56 PM, paapiman said:

So how is your situation now bro? 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Much better than before.Healthier with a much calmer mind.Thanks for inquiring.

[Lioness11]

On 11/14/2018 at 5:31 PM, Jageera said:

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

Any members here have battled addiction before?Other than abstaining,finding a new crowd to mix with,exercising etc, did you use any spiritual method to help you abstain and quit intoxicants?Any specific Shabads,Paaths used?Appreciate any feedback.Thanks.

 

 

It depends what the addiction is. But yoga is very good, mediation, practicing Truth from Gurbani etc. It could be good to see a therapist. Surrounding yourself with good positive people is always a good thing. 

[LettingGo]

@Jageera Veer ji, would love to hear how your recovery/life/spiritual journey is going?

My experience has been that relapse (fortunately and unfortunately) has been part of the journey and has humbled me again and again just enough so that I may be ready again to ‘give myself completely’ to play that game of love our dear Guru ji speaks off (“Jio tho prem kiln ka chao.... “ ) . I’m just Sharing my experience here, not saying I that it is will be the same for others.

My experience is that of the last 10 years after being introduced to recovery (through drug and alcohol treatment centres which focused on many tools including 12 step recovery), Guru ji certainly was the ‘power greater than myself’ that I incorporated and it was easier to reconnect as I had grown up with it all around me.  I have spent most of these years clean as a result, however despite wonderful gifts flooding back into my life (more talking non-material gifts here), for me it remains on the level of a daily commitment, reallly moment to moment to choose the path being ‘liv’ or ‘taat’. Have to remind myself that it is Gurprasad that a pathway of recovery was even shown to me, that I am able to take a breath and that really I cannot take credit for all the grace that Guru bestows on me.
 

Above, I am referring to relapses after having being introduced to whatever method of recovery and finding great excitement in being clean, feeling Guru Ji’s blessing and love and knowing that ‘void’ was indeed a spiritual one and was being filled and that intoxication was not even a thought — through to the addiction, 5 doots, ego, the ‘disease’, ‘kaal’ whatever you wish to call it taking over and eventually a relapse.

It has been painful and I do have a growing fear that I may have squandered the gift sometimes but I hope you are enjoying a new life and Guruji continues to guide your way home.

Would love to connect and hear from you :) 

[Lioness11]

On 4/18/2021 at 11:57 PM, LettingGo said:

@Jageera Veer ji, would love to hear how your recovery/life/spiritual journey is going?

My experience has been that relapse (fortunately and unfortunately) has been part of the journey and has humbled me again and again just enough so that I may be ready again to ‘give myself completely’ to play that game of love our dear Guru ji speaks off (“Jio tho prem kiln ka chao.... “ ) . I’m just Sharing my experience here, not saying I that it is will be the same for others.

My experience is that of the last 10 years after being introduced to recovery (through drug and alcohol treatment centres which focused on many tools including 12 step recovery), Guru ji certainly was the ‘power greater than myself’ that I incorporated and it was easier to reconnect as I had grown up with it all around me.  I have spent most of these years clean as a result, however despite wonderful gifts flooding back into my life (more talking non-material gifts here), for me it remains on the level of a daily commitment, reallly moment to moment to choose the path being ‘liv’ or ‘taat’. Have to remind myself that it is Gurprasad that a pathway of recovery was even shown to me, that I am able to take a breath and that really I cannot take credit for all the grace that Guru bestows on me.
 

Above, I am referring to relapses after having being introduced to whatever method of recovery and finding great excitement in being clean, feeling Guru Ji’s blessing and love and knowing that ‘void’ was indeed a spiritual one and was being filled and that intoxication was not even a thought — through to the addiction, 5 doots, ego, the ‘disease’, ‘kaal’ whatever you wish to call it taking over and eventually a relapse.

It has been painful and I do have a growing fear that I may have squandered the gift sometimes but I hope you are enjoying a new life and Guruji continues to guide your way home.

Would love to connect and hear from you

Well done for staying clean. I know someone who was never spiritual before they got clean but after rehab does Japji Sahib every morning, does a mindfulness meditation each morning and gets therapy. And it’s done them wonders. I’m sure there’s a lot more they need to do to keep clean, but it’s a large part of how they go through life now. 
 

Seeing how dukhi can turn turn a human towards God is a truly Beautiful thing. Seeing the bright side of recovery from addiction, in moving closer to Truth is key I believe. Sometimes people come out of it stronger and better than they were before. But the path can be tough, I know that so well done to you. 
 

Ive never had a great issue with alcohol but I did used to drink it and made a vow to fully give it up one day, which I broke once and then kept after that. It’s been over a decade now. But the dukhi from the kind of life I was living did turn me towards God. 

[Jageera]

On 4/19/2021 at 6:57 AM, LettingGo said:

@Jageera Veer ji, would love to hear how your recovery/life/spiritual journey is going?

My experience has been that relapse (fortunately and unfortunately) has been part of the journey and has humbled me again and again just enough so that I may be ready again to ‘give myself completely’ to play that game of love our dear Guru ji speaks off (“Jio tho prem kiln ka chao.... “ ) . I’m just Sharing my experience here, not saying I that it is will be the same for others.

My experience is that of the last 10 years after being introduced to recovery (through drug and alcohol treatment centres which focused on many tools including 12 step recovery), Guru ji certainly was the ‘power greater than myself’ that I incorporated and it was easier to reconnect as I had grown up with it all around me.  I have spent most of these years clean as a result, however despite wonderful gifts flooding back into my life (more talking non-material gifts here), for me it remains on the level of a daily commitment, reallly moment to moment to choose the path being ‘liv’ or ‘taat’. Have to remind myself that it is Gurprasad that a pathway of recovery was even shown to me, that I am able to take a breath and that really I cannot take credit for all the grace that Guru bestows on me.
 

Above, I am referring to relapses after having being introduced to whatever method of recovery and finding great excitement in being clean, feeling Guru Ji’s blessing and love and knowing that ‘void’ was indeed a spiritual one and was being filled and that intoxication was not even a thought — through to the addiction, 5 doots, ego, the ‘disease’, ‘kaal’ whatever you wish to call it taking over and eventually a relapse.

It has been painful and I do have a growing fear that I may have squandered the gift sometimes but I hope you are enjoying a new life and Guruji continues to guide your way home.

Would love to connect and hear from you

The most important thing I've learned is to avoid the company of those who still indulge in intoxicants no matter for whatever reason. Let them curse and mock you,you carry on ,find new friends,if none available pick up a new hobby.

Get a habit of exercising,that helps alot.

Do your nitnem and simran daily,as much as you can,when you can.Try watching Bhai Simranjeet Tohana on youtube,has a channel Waheguru Waheguru,posts highly informative vids that teach simran.

A tip,when having strong urges to drink etc,try to take the money that you plan to buy the bottle with,and give it to some beggars or Gurudwara,or buy food and donate somewhere,just anything charitable to burn the exact amount the bottle costs.It helps you change your mind as you see the same money that is gonna get you piss drunk is able to help others.

Wish you the best brother.Even if you fall get up and try again immediately.

Slowly with time,there would be a stronger arm that holds you and makes sure you never fall again,but we need to work hard to develop that level of faith.

 

[Jageera]

On 4/22/2021 at 2:19 AM, Lioness11 said:

Well done for staying clean. I know someone who was never spiritual before they got clean but after rehab does Japji Sahib every morning, does a mindfulness meditation each morning and gets therapy. And it’s done them wonders. I’m sure there’s a lot more they need to do to keep clean, but it’s a large part of how they go through life now. 
 

Seeing how dukhi can turn turn a human towards God is a truly Beautiful thing. Seeing the bright side of recovery from addiction, in moving closer to Truth is key I believe. Sometimes people come out of it stronger and better than they were before. But the path can be tough, I know that so well done to you. 
 

Ive never had a great issue with alcohol but I did used to drink it and made a vow to fully give it up one day, which I broke once and then kept after that. It’s been over a decade now. But the dukhi from the kind of life I was living did turn me towards God. 

Great post. A total lifestyle change is whats needed.

[chatanga1]

On 4/21/2021 at 7:19 PM, Lioness11 said:

Ive never had a great issue with alcohol but I did used to drink it

Thanks for sharing that. It something that I've been thinking about recently seeing the situation of some relatives. May I ask, how did you start drinking, if it's not too intrusive?