Ideal Singh Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Taken from another forum... Today I was on a commercial airline flight from Calgary, Alberta (Canada) to San Jose, California. There was another turbaned man on board. When I saw him, I thought to myself, "It's nice to have a Sardar aboard." After the flight was in progress, he wanted to take a nap. So he took off what appeared to be a starched and pre-tied turban (like a hat), and he placed the turban-hat in the overhead storage compartment on the plane. This revealed his Patka, in which he took his snooze aboard the plane. After the pilot informed the passengers via the public address system on the plane that we would soon land, the Sardar returned his turban-hat to his head. This whole episode blew me away. This Sardar must have been in his mid-50s or early 60s--certainly not a young boy to be seen in a Patka only. I know that the whole practice of turban wearing is a personal thing, but was the behavior that I witnessed good "Sikh etiquette" or not? I'm sure I'll be enlightened by the folks on this e-mail list. Thanks in advance for your input! Please remain in Chardhi Kalaa. Gur Fateh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Yeah, i never wear a starched turban however it can come in handy in places like that. After getting stranded on Ashkabad airport for 7 hours in december 02, my pugh was all going the rong way ( didn't know how to tie it properly then ) . So i had to go to the toilet and retie it. Even though the floor was clean, i held the rest of the pugh between my knees while trying to wrap it around my head. :wink: u can't trust the floor of anotha man's toilet. Took a proper effort so a Starched turban wud have come in handy. But i still wouldn't use it , cos now i can tie a proper dastar wich can last atleast 2 - 3 days without loosing shape or grip 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 After a long day wid my pugg been tied on, my head feels a bit itchy, so i would take off my pugg. But i don't use Starch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jassa Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Amardeep Veeji.... your dastar should not be worn like a hat! it should be retied everytime you wear it....there is rehitnamas telling us of this... starch paghs not only look incredibly stupid....but are against sikhi! why dont you just wear a hat? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukhsingh Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 dats not true, my dad wears a starch pug because he cant tie a real pug. he cant tie it cause he has arthitis. now, on weekends he ties a real pug , but he has to get my bro to do the top part. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7naam Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 starch paghs not only look incredibly stupid....but are against sikhi! why dont you just wear a hat? WJKK WJKF, What about tying a starched dastaar that is tied everyday? My dad has a starched Pagh as thats the way he was bought up ( born and bred in Kenya). Saying that a starched Pagh looks stupid is offensive. Theres nothing about a starched Pagh that is tied everyday that is against Sikhi. For anyone that may want to know 'why a starched Pagh', its because my grandad used to work in construction and a starched Pagh was better in the conditions he had to work in, and my grandad passed on this style to his son (my dad). WJKK WJKF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samosasingh Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 I'm teeling you guys that the "jats" tie the best triangle turbans I have ever seen. They are so perfect with all the folds and all!!!! What a gift 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 a small keski. with a dastar ontop never opens - same with a well tied dumala.. no need for startch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukhsingh Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 I'm teeling you guys that the "jats" tie the best triangle turbans I have ever seen. They are so perfect with all the folds and all!!!! What a gift dats wat my bro thinks, but i like a nice round dastaar 8) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ideal Singh Posted September 10, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 I'm teeling you guys that the "jats" tie the best triangle turbans I have ever seen. They are so perfect with all the folds and all!!!! What a gift Triangle Turbanz :shock: ? How come ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Errm, i never tied or will ever tie a pretied turban although i am not against it. My pugh takes me about 6 mints to tie and stays in shape for up to three days. Every morning i tie my darhi, hair, and pugh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 Pretied turbans which are put like a hat are against the maryada as issued by Akali NIhang Budha Dal, the 5th Takht. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukhasingh Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 Turban Styles such as those, of Afriki/Desi style, http://www.sikhcybermuseum.org/Gallery/WWI...pages/e4670.htm came about during the pre and WW, when the Sikhs who where recruited into the British Army, in order to be conformist the sikhs where told to tye folded turbans,tye up their beards/wear the same kirpans etc this later spread for convicence sake, when the sikh beards would get caught in the guns the commanding officers would order his soldiers to tye their beards up and smarten their turbans on parades/exhibitions in front of the queen. http://www.sikhcybermuseum.org/Gallery/WWI...ges/na22803.htm This then had a knock on affect when the "War turban"ie Bunga was no longer required http://www.sikhcybermuseum.org/Gallery/Mut...es/02280049.htm Look at the picture this was a clipping taken from the London News in 1800's when the paid kings,and service men came into play felt resistance from the old singhs, technically nihungs (let's not go into it ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 Pre-tied Turban are also discouraged and against damdami takshal rehat maryada. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gupt Singh Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 pretied turbans are silly. why dont u buy a pretied turban in a shop.... for older ppl maybe its ok, so soz if ive offended ny1, for them its ok, but for ur average singh it is definately NOT ok....those WW2 "singhs" looks silly with their dhari crushed against their face lol what looks funniest is those big straps that ppl put round their chin.....again no offence 2 any strapwearers here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukhasingh Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 LOL Nice one Khalsa Soldier 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukhsingh Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 i would like to see a sikh soldier (in an army) wearing a BIG ROUND NIHGUNS STYLE DASTAAR. dat would be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :nihung: *dont forget the chakkars 8) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 I think its a matter of personal choice, did Guru Gobind singh ji say that Dastar shouldn't be starched? I tie my darhi thats personal choice, its better to tie it that cut it but then others wud disagree. I say let other people follow sikhi the way they are trying to and not judge anyone, cos we shouldn't be judging. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 i think allot of kids nowadays wear those folded style paags because they look neat ... and they dont wanna wear the massive punjabi style paags.. but dastaar/dumalla/bunga rule :yo: some people have a lil shaster at the top... or a small chakar tucked in at the top - they look cool 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gupt Singh Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 yo amandeep singh......soz if i offended u.......dnt woz ur dhari looks ok......personally i just leave mine alone maybe thats y its a bit messy lol......i was just dissin peeps who wrap funny things under their chin....aite? trust a dumalla can look REALLY neat if u have the right material and practise.......punjabi phugs i dnt really like so i just do a neat or gangstah looking dumalla depending on the occassion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukhsingh Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 i think allot of kids nowadays wear those folded style paags because they look neat ... and they dont wanna wear the massive punjabi style paags.. but dastaar/dumalla/bunga rule :yo: some people have a lil shaster at the top... or a small chakar tucked in at the top - they look cool true say. i wear a dastaar at highschool, i wanna come walk in with full bana, covered in shastars, and a big nihung style khanda on my dastaar 8) dat would be pimping... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ideal Singh Posted September 12, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Turban tying is a art of which I am Proud off... I just love tying it everyday... though initially when I was learning to tie Turban, I also used to do same i.e wear pre-tied Turbanz. But now I just love doing it daily... It makes me feel distinguished from the rest of the bunch... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjj Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 I dont agree with pre-tied turbans. Either one should tie a full dastaar or you can tie that round turban... i dont knwo if it is called patka.. but just tyei the saropa of Maharaaj over your head. I usually tie a round turban and over it I tie my big cone-turban.. but sometimes I just tie the round turban and go outside. If u r travelling long journey's in planes then you can tie the round-turban its alright. Tieng a dari is not against the rehat.. that would be to fanatic if you say tieng dari is against the rehat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr §ingh Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 I DOnt really see anythin wrong with a tied daari.. coz that is smooth and looks nice not that open daari doesn't.. but personally think theres nuthin wrong with tying it now tying a starched Paagh doesn't seem to be really nice..using paagh as a hat. BUT i mean if that is a "majbori"..and u can't do n e tihn else Its better than not having 1 at all! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gupt Singh Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 i think tyed dharis give the impression they are trimmed. to tye the dhari is hiding it from the outside world. sikhi doesnt ban it, but i think it definately doesnt encourage it. dhari tying was a trend started by maharaja duleep singh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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