Jageera Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 https://thewire.in/communalism/delhi-riots-victims-modi-trump By now, many across Delhi, and Sikhs across the world, are retriggered by memories the pogroms of 1984, when Delhi was shut down for days while armed, organised, government-backed mobs unleashed sadistic, sexualised, ravaging violence against Sikhs (many who were hiding in their own homes, as noted on the lists provided to the “mobs”). Thousands were murdered in days. The survivors seethed at the mockery and shaming to which they were subjected in the aftermath. Being taunted walking down a street – “Yeh Sikh faise bach gaya (How did this Sikh survive)?” Being prodded with gibes about the recent trauma – “Sardar toh sirf chidiya ghar mein milenge (You’ll have to go to the zoo to find a Sikh now).” Being denied employment, apartment rentals, seats on public transport or basic politeness all became commonplace for Sikhs: rural and urban, turbaned and not, traditional and Anglicised. The gutted shell of the Badi mosque in north Delhi’s Ashok Nagar neighbourhood was still smouldering yesterday afternoon. Atop its minaret, the Islamic crescent had been torn down and a saffron Hindu flag hoisted over it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted February 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 What Happened in Delhi Was a Pogrom https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/what-happened-delhi-was-pogrom/607198/ The Delhi police, who report directly to Home Minister Amit Shah, either stood idly by or escorted the mobs. Videos of police breaking CCTV cameras and taunting prone and bleeding Muslim men while filming them with their smartphones circulated on social media. The violence echoed that of 2002, when Modi was chief minister of Gujarat and authorities there did nothing to stem carnage that killed some 1,000 people, the majority of them Muslims. It also brought back memories of the revenge killings of at least 3,000 Sikhs in Delhi after the assassination of former Prime Minister Indira Gandhi by two of her Sikh bodyguards in 1984. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted February 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 https://www.ft.com/content/484d22e6-5967-11ea-a528-dd0f971febbc In a grim echo of the violent 1947 partition of India — in which up to 2m people are thought to have died — rioters questioned people over their religion, demanding they recite prayers, show religious symbols or even pull down their trousers. “If someone has a beard or looks Muslim, they are asking people to open their pants and prove that they are Hindu,” said one social activist. Witnesses said police appeared to do little to stop the rioters. Mazid, a 32-year-old shop owner, said he and his neighbours on a mixed Hindu-Muslim street were standing together trying to protect their homes on Tuesday evening when they saw a crowd, accompanied by police officers, coming towards them. “Police were with them and we thought maybe they will stop the violence, but then [someone] fired the shots,” said Mazid. His brother was killed and two neighbours were injured in the gunfire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted February 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 Mohammad Zubair, a Muslim, was brutally attacked as Delhi experienced some of its worst religious riots in decades. ‘My clothes were drenched in blood,’ he said of his ordeal. Muslims and Hindus across the region have been mourning their loved ones after dozens of people were killed in the latest wave of violence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted February 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 Hindu mobs threaten to purge Delhi of Muslims https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hindu-mobs-threaten-to-purge-delhi-of-muslims-brmlsm9s5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted February 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 Looks like nothing has changed since 1984. I am going to document as much as I can on this thread. I urge other Sikhs on this forum to update this thread too with any new articles or videos they come across. This is to ensure,when in the future, when hindu apologists and bloodthirsty nationalists here deny any blame we can refer back to this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulfinder Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 @Jageeravery sad seeing all of this stuff especially in todays day and age with the all high tech gadgets around people are not afraid of doing these cruel sadistic acts. Neither are afraid of God by attacking places of worship. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted February 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 25 minutes ago, Soulfinder said: . Neither are afraid of God by attacking places of worship. God is the last thing on these peoples mind. They are more interested in plunder rape and murder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarjasDevi Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Very sad news... but I think you're making it more inflammatory by siding with Muslims here. India has long been torn by sectarian violence, going back for centuries... add to that corruption, poverty, criminality, etc. So, things have been relatively peaceful under Modi govt. What changed all of a sudden? Citizenship law. Oh, big claims discrimination against Muslims. Is it? Quote The Parliament of India has passed a controversial bill granting citizenship to non-Muslim minority groups from three of its neighbouring countries Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan till 31 December 2014. Under this, if Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Parsis and Christians who came to India illegally can prove that they came from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh, then they can apply for citizenship. The Indian government argues that the number of minorities in these three countries are steadily declining and they are facing persecution on the basis of religion. https://www.mubahisa.in/2019/12/citizenship-law-pakistan-hindu.html What are the citizenship laws of Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan for non-Muslims? Is it true that non-Muslims are facing bitter persecution in Islamic countries due to increasing radicalization? So, apart from the protests and the violent oppression resulting from them... how can we be honest with the truth? Citizenship Law is not discriminatory to Sikhs. It is nothing like the 1/2 Muslim man married to a Christian woman, Rajiv Gandhi who sparked riots against Sikhs in 1984 following righteous assassination of stupid Indira Gandhi for sending Army into Harmandir Sahib and slaughtering Sikh worshipers indiscriminately following her multiple, communist inspired "emergencies." This was a law intending to offer citizenship to illegals, many of previous Indian heritage who fled violent oppression in radicalized Islamic countries after being trapped there following partition. Why then would the Bill be required to include Islam? How is it "discriminatory" towards Muslim illegals who are not fleeing persecution? Quote The Amendment does not provide the same pathway to Muslims and others from these countries, nor to refugee Sri Lankan Tamils in India, Rohingyas from Myanmar, or Buddhists from Tibet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_Amendment_Act_protests Hmmm, and why should it? It was not intended to be a general immigration reform opening India to everyone and everything. Quote The amendment has been widely criticised as discriminating on the basis of religion, in particular for excluding Muslims. Yet, it was designed to protect primarily Indian heritage persons from increasing persecution in radicalized Islamic countries. What happened to all the Hindu's of Pakistan? Mob violence is always horrible and unjust... but I can't help wondering what would happen to Hindu's if they staged a protest in Afghanistan, Pakistan or Bangladesh? We already know from history don't we... the same exact thing we are seeing here. It doesn't make it right. Criminality, rape, murder are karmic debts... and the debtor will pay before the Almighty Lord. But, these political issues are never only "black" or "white." For one thing.... why would it be a good thing for India to allow unrestricted immigration from Muslims worldwide? Has it been beneficial to Germany? Sweden? England? It would be a horrific mistake... for any increase in the Muslim population... would quite clearly destroy India with civil war... easily exploited by radical Islamic neighboring countries. This isn't an anti-Sikh issue at all, and I don't think it's right to force Sikh loyalties into blind support of Muslim causes... especially this one since there's no discrimination at all, only an attempt at "protection" for non-Muslims in extremist countries. until 2017 Pakistan did not even formally recognize validity of Hindu wedding. This is beyond unjust... but no one is protesting the insane persecutions allowed, only a bill to enable illegals to gain citizenship if they were fleeing this kind of discrimination. Quote Pakistan has passed a bill which formally recognises Hindu marriages in law for the first time. The bill enshrines the conditions for a valid marriage, and provides for official documentation that can be used to verify marital status. The Muslim-majority country has about 3.8 million Hindus, or some 2% of the population. The bill, which applies only to certain regions, has now been sent to the president to be signed into law... The new national bill retains a controversial clause from the Sindh regulation, which allows termination of the marriage if either person converts to another religion... Pakistani Hindus have long complained of discrimination and religious persecution, and many have fled across the border to India to escape it. Since 2011, more than a thousand Pakistanis have been granted Indian citizenship, the majority of whom are Hindus. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39233567 Quote Gandhi’s words proved prescient for the entire Hindu community of East Bengal for decades to come after 1946: they either perished or fled. The Hindu population has undergone a steady attrition over the years, from 28% in 1940 to 8.96% in 2011, with especially two periods of sharp decline—the first around the time of partition and the second during the 1971 Bangladesh War that resulted in the liberation of Bangladesh. However, even after the emergence of Bangladesh, the Hindu community has contracted—from 13.5% in 1974 to 8.96% in 2011—a nearly 33% decline, which is humungous in demographic terms. These dwindling numbers are a stark indicator of the deeply hostile anti-Hindu environment prevalent in that country... Professor Abul Barakat of Dhaka University in his recently published book, The Political Economy of Reforming Agriculture: Land Water Bodies in Bangladesh, writes that “there will be no Hindus left within Bangladesh within 30 years…The rate of the exodus over the past 49 years points to that direction.” As per his research, around 11.3 million Hindus were compelled to flee Bangladesh due to religious persecution from 1964 to 2013. https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/opinion/may-no-hindus-left-bangladesh-30-years 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted March 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, HarjasDevi said: Very sad news... but I think you're making it more inflammatory by siding with Muslims here. India has long been torn by sectarian violence, going back for centuries... add to that corruption, poverty, criminality, etc. So, things have been relatively peaceful under Modi govt. What changed all of a sudden? Citizenship law. Oh, big claims discrimination against Muslims. Is it? No penji you misunderstood me. Not taking sides just posting what news I find online as some people here would deny this ever happening. It is not me but in 2 articles I posted comparisons were made with the 1984 anti Sikh genocide and the current situation. Don't really see the point of comparing this situation to what will happen to hindus in another country. India claims to be a democracy with a rule of law so they must act like it but instead we see nothing has changed over the past 40 years when it comes to violence against minorities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarjasDevi Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 How is there a comparison with 1984 bhaiji, when the controversial citizenship law is inclusively designed to protect Sikh community and provide fast-track citizenship to illegals fleeing discrimination and persecution in radicalized Islamic countries? Perhaps, the newspapers are biased and we are not understanding the issue fully. Why, I wonder, are thousands of Muslims in India leading controversial protests over this issue... unless to detract and deny the near extermination of non-Muslims in neighboring countries which the law is designed to protect. Of course this doesn't justify mob violence... but I don't think India has to be secular or a safe haven for one of the most intolerant religions known to mankind. It is unjust to consider any kind of "equality" which is unilateral, and ignoring mass extermination attempts against non-Muslims in Muslim neighboring countries. Quote As many as 200 Pakistani Hindus crossed over to India through the Attari-Wagah border on Monday, and officials said that they are not ready to go back. Backing the families, Shiromani Akali Dal leader Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Management Committee president Manjinder Singh Sirsa said that he has apprised the Home Minister about the situation. Though the Pakistani Hindus came on a visitor's visa but some of them claimed that they felt unsafe in Pakistan and hoped to get India citizenship... "We are not feeling safe in Pakistan. Our girls feel insecure as they fear that they could be kidnapped any time by hardliners while police watch as mute spectators. Our girls cannot walk freely in the north-west area of Pakistan," said a woman. Two more women, without disclosing their names, told the media that kidnapping of Hindu girls had become a routine affair in Pakistan and no family dared to lodge a complaint with police against fundamentalists. https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/pakistan-news/200-hindu-and-sikhs-families-flee-to-india-from-pak.html Quote The vast majority of Hindus and Sikhs fled Afghanistan over the past several decades, with only around 3,000 remaining in the country, as documented in HAF’s latest human rights report, Hindus in South Asia and the Diaspora: A Survey of Human Rights, 2017. Notwithstanding a recent decline, Afghanistan is considered one of the oldest centers of Hindu civilization and was once home to a thriving Hindu population. Hindu or Vedic history in Afghanistan dates back thousands of years with some of the earliest settlements of people now identified as Hindus. Moreover, archaeologists have found remains of several ancient temples and numerous icons of Hindu deities at locations throughout the country. Between the second and seventh centuries CE Afghanistan was a center of Buddhism, that simultaneously incorporated many aspects of Hinduism, and from the end of the sixth century CE to the end of tenth century CE, the “Hindu Shahis,” a series of dynasties of Hindu faith, ruled Kabul and most of southeastern Afghanistan. Even in modern times, there was a thriving community of approximately 200,000 Hindus and Sikhs residing in Afghanistan prior to the start of the civil war. https://www.hinduamerican.org/blog/on-the-verge-of-extinction-afghanistans-last-hindus-and-sikhs/ You write: "Don't really see the point of comparing this situation to what will happen to hindus in another country." Yet, the entire context of the protests was regarding Indian Citizenship Law enabling Indian heritage persons trapped in Islamic neighboring countries of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan who fled to India as illegals, to be fast-tracked into citizenship status DUE to their persecution. Muslims staged massive Congress Party sponsored protests because "Muslim" illegals weren't included... So yes, ABSOLUTELY what will happen to Hindu's in these 3 countries is the POINT of the Citizenship Law which congressi media is manipulating for more divide and conquer tactics. And while you deny the obvious relation with Citizenship Law, what it absolutely DOES NOT have anything to do with... is anti-Sikh discrimination... to the contrary... it's a law that includes provision for the protection of Sikhs, Hindu's and Christians, Jains and Parsis who experience genocidal persecution in those 3 Islamic countries. Now what an injustice that congressi media compare what is happening to mass butchery of Sikhs under Congress Party in 1984, another deceit and delusion. It is Congress Party and pro-Congress media which blames Hindu's in general, and not itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarjasDevi Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Only one side of the story cannot possibly tell the whole truth. Quote In a shocking development, the autopsy results of slain Intelligence Bureau (IB) officer Ankit Sharma accessed by sources on Thursday, reveal that Sharma was stabbed more than four hundred times. Forensic experts have stated that stab wounds have been found all over Sharma's body, ripping his intestines apart, as per sources. Delhi police have filed an FIR and named former AAP Councillor Tahir Hussain has been named in the FIR under IPC section 302 for murder... Forensic experts have also revealed that Sharma was stabbed continuously for allegedly two-four hours. The IB officer may also have been stabbed after his death, claim sources after his body was found dumped in a sewer in Delhi's Chand Bagh area. https://www.republicworld.com/india-news/law-and-order/ib-officer-ankit-sharma-stabbed-400-times-by-multiple-people-autopsy.html Quote On Wednesday, the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) published a report titled, “India’s Ruling Party, Government Slammed Over Delhi Violence”. In its report, the WSJ claimed that Ankur Sharma, the brother of the deceased IB officer allegedly said to them that the rioters had come armed with stones, rods, knives, and even swords, and shouted slogans ‘Jai Shri Ram’ before attacking his brother Ankit Sharma.... However, the claims made by WSJ is far from the truth as Ankit’s family has been consistent in their statements that their boy was dragged by a Muslim mob that had come from Tahir Hussain’s house. Multiple eyewitnesses had corroborated that Sharma was dragged by an enraged Muslim mob from inside the house of AAP leader Mohammad Tahir Hussain and subsequently killed by them. Sharma, having stabbed hundreds of times with his intestines pulled out, was found dead and abandoned inside a ditch in Chand Bagh neighbourhood. https://www.opindia.com/2020/02/jansatta-ankit-sharma-murder-brother-blame-hindu-fake-news/ It's obvious foreign press has a hand in instigating the unrest in India... dirtiest irresponsible politics of division... and over what? A law intended to protect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted March 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, HarjasDevi said: How is there a comparison with 1984 bhaiji, when the controversial citizenship law is inclusively designed to protect Sikh community and provide fast-track citizenship to illegals fleeing discrimination and persecution in radicalized Islamic countries? Perhaps, the newspapers are biased and we are not understanding the issue fully. Why, I wonder, are thousands of Muslims in India leading controversial protests over this issue... unless to detract and deny the near extermination of non-Muslims in neighboring countries which the law is designed to protect. Of course this doesn't justify mob violence... but I don't think India has to be secular or a safe haven for one of the most intolerant religions known to mankind. When I said comparison to 1984,i meant the violence on the street of delhi not the issue that led to this violence.If we read articles online the majority of them are making references to 1984.That is what I am highlighting. 18 minutes ago, HarjasDevi said: but I don't think India has to be secular or a safe haven for one of the most intolerant religions known to mankind. Then where does it end penji? This was the same justification for anti Sikh violence in the past and still going on. In the future some other extremist can use this excuse to target anyone they wish.I don't understand this logic,if one side protests the other side starts running amok?So what type of "democracy"is this where there is freedom of speech and expression but afterwards you get murdered and your businesses razed? Knowing that such violent mobs still exist in the capital of India which saw one of the worst attempts of Sikh genocide in the past has unsettled me.Makes me wonder would these same mobs be used to target Sikhs in the future if they ever "dare" demand for any rights? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted March 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, HarjasDevi said: Only one side of the story cannot possibly tell the whole truth. It's obvious foreign press has a hand in instigating the unrest in India... dirtiest irresponsible politics of division... and over what? A law intended to protect. Well when a community is attacked it obviously retaliates. That is the law of nature. There would be collateral damage on both sides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarjasDevi Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Quote When I said comparison to 1984... There is no comparison to 1984. It isn't the same people. It isn't the same government. It isn't the same situation. And above all, it isn't even anti-Sikh. Quote Then where does it end penji? It's not going to end, it's only going to get worse in Kaljug. Forcing political demands of India to encourage Muslim immigration and citizenship status from the above named extremist and radicalized countries is going to wreck destruction. If you think things are bad now, imagine higher Muslim demographics... then it will be another Bangladesh. the law was intended to provide safe haven for persecuted Indian non-Muslims from Muslim countries. End of. This cannot be an issue of "equality" for Muslim illegals offered same citizenship opportunities. Quote This was the same justification for anti Sikh violence in the past and still going on How? BJP has shouted loudest and longest against Congress Party for 1984 government sponsored pogrom against Sikhs. This isn't directed against Sikhs, but to offer safe haven and citizenship. How is it the same? Mobs are out committing acts of hate and murder, for a lot of reasons... but anti-Sikh sentiment is not part of this... or do you feel the need to jump on the bandwagon and use it as a platform to promote Sikh separatist point of view? Quote I don't understand this logic,if one side protests the other side starts running amok? That's a mob bhaiji. Mob violence can start over anything. Quote So what type of "democracy"is this where there is freedom of speech and expression but afterwards you get murdered and your businesses razed? India really hasn't had a chance. British Raj gave birth to it by arming Muslims and promising them Pakistan and Bangladesh. Honestly, none of those countries have yet recovered from massive genocidal partition... while England sits across the ocean rich and fat and wearing Koh-i-Noor diamond and lecturing the world about democracy as it's own daughters get whored out by Muslim mobs. What type of democracy is it going to be, if everyone has a bone to pick with Hindu's intolerant of Muslim population, and ignoring the causes in the mass rapes, forced marriages and virtual extermination of Hindu's in Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan? What kind of democracy will it create to rescind this Immigration Law or worse, allow equal right of MUSLIMS to leave MUSLIM countries and flock to India to build up vote bank for murdering Congress Party? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarjasDevi Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 13 hours ago, Jageera said: Well when a community is attacked it obviously retaliates. That is the law of nature. There would be collateral damage on both sides. Far be it from me to imagine that Muslim community would EVER be complicit in mob violence... or violence against women (yeah right)... yet here you are justifying horrific mob brutal murder of police constable (actually intelligence official doing investigation)... okay, well per your claim... when Hindu's react it's a mob... but when Muslims react, it's only self-defense... even if they butchered this man and pulled his organs out and dumped him in a sewer.... Really now, I think it is disservice to Sikh community to get stuck blindly supporting Muslim community and due to extreme media manipulation, we do not know all the facts or provocations. I wouldn't be at all surprised that America, Pakistan, Russia, China and Israel were pulling strings behind the scenes. Everybody's being played. Quote Why Was There a Wave of Violence in India While Trump Was Visiting?https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/what-is-happening-in-india.html India already has more Muslim population than either Pakistan OR Bangladesh. How many Hindu's and Sikhs population do they have? 1-2% and disappearing. Nationalism isn't a bad thing. For what reason does India have to support more Muslim citizens? Would it even be wise to propose when it would quite obviously create yet another partition? "From the anti-CAA march in Hyderabad today, what appears to be the Islamic Shahada ["There is no god but the Allah"] printed on the Indian tricolour in place of the Ashoka Chakra." https://www.thetruepicture.org/anti-india-hinduphobic-violent-incidents-surrounding-caa-protests/ Always, there are two sides to every story... ask yourself for what purpose all this anti-Hindu, anti-India hate and provocation? Why only ONE side of the story gets inflammatory news coverage? I wonder what countries (cough Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh) might be behind it... along with US, Israeli, British, Russian, Chinese intelligence agencies manipulating THEM. What democracy is this? Burqa on Hindu ladies... smashing holy swastik symbol... defacing National flag with no god but Allah>? Yes... more Muslim citizens and there will cease to be any India. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarjasDevi Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Other vital news ignored by leftist press. Quote Several circumstantial evidences suggest that there could be a bigger reason behind the Delhi violence, and the protest against CAA was just a mask for the elements that are trying to pose a bigger security threat to the nation. An intelligence official, Ankit Sharma, was dragged by the mob and beaten to death. His family and the locals who spoke to TV channels categorically stated that it was Tahir’s goons who forcefully took Ankit Sharma. Now, one needs to consider the report that came in just one year ago. In December 2018, National Investigation Agency raided Delhi’s Jaffrabad, now one among the violence-hit area in Delhi. Five arrests were made at that time, including an engineering student by name Yunus. It was reported that a plot was hatched to kill top political leaders of India. Cut to the present, the undeniable evidence of rioting emerging from the terrace of AAP councillor Tahir Hussain, the brutal murder of an intelligence official which again turning the needle of suspicion to this councillor, all put together, makes oneself wonder, whether the violence in Delhi are just communal in nature or is there a bigger threat to national security playing behind the scene? https://www.thetruepicture.org/delhi-violence-aap-tahir-hussain-murder-of-intelligence-officer/ Quote Unambiguous evidence has been emerged to show that Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) councillor Tahir Hussain’s house terrace was indeed used for rioting through petrol bombs and stones. Hordes of bricks and petrol bomb were found on the rooftop of the councillor’s home that corroborates with the earlier video clips, in which the rioters were shown creating mayhem from the terrace. But of course blame the Hindus... as usual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarjasDevi Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Quote Islamist mobs have gone on a rampage in Delhi where the anti-Hindu riots have claimed several lives and given rise to horror stories in the process. As time moves on more and more proofs have emerged, making it sufficiently clear that these riots are nothing but a selective, well-coordinated and planned outrage against the Hindus by Islamist fundamentalists. It has been claimed by multiple eyewitnesses that AAP’s leader Tahir Hussain was one of the key conspirators behind these anti-Hindu riots which engulfed 37 lives and left more than 200 seriously injured. The quantity of stones, bricks and petrol bomb recovered from Tahir Hussain’s terrace proves that this was not an impulsive reaction but a well-planned and coordinated outrage against the Hindus by Islamist fundamentalists in the national capital. Mostly all the eyewitnesses OpIndia got in touch with have revealed that the Islamists had been preparing for these anti-Hindu riots since a long time under the pretext of anti-CAA protest. https://www.opindia.com/2020/02/delhi-riots-muslims-hindus-anti-caa-tahir-hussain-aap-leader-stone-pelting-arson/ Quote In February, in its weekly newsletter, the ISIS had condemned the Citizenship Amendment Act. It also said that regardless of Indian Muslims’ loyalty towards their country, they are being kicked out. The terror group further said that democracies inherently seek to stifle Islam...https://theprint.in/india/isis-now-using-viral-image-of-muslim-man-beaten-up-in-delhi-riots-to-call-for-retaliation/372813/ Quote Wilayat al-Hind In May 2019, after one of the members of the Islamic State died in a clash with Indian security forces in Kashmir, the terror group announced the establishment of a new branch in India — Wilayat al-Hind. The ISIS announced the establishment of this new branch after it was driven out from its so-called “caliphate” in Iraq and Syria. Meanwhile, a pro-ISIS group this week launched an India-specific publication, titled — ‘Voice of Hind‘. All these seem to be an attempt to take advantage of the tensed and volatile situation in the national capital. https://theprint.in/india/isis-now-using-viral-image-of-muslim-man-beaten-up-in-delhi-riots-to-call-for-retaliation/372813/ Quote The women in Bindis wearing Hijab only remind us of how Islamists view Hindu women as conquests and objects to be ‘owned’. A straight parallel that comes to mind is from Kashmir. When the Kashmiri Hindus were being raped, murdered and driven away from their homes by Islamist hoards, apart from the ‘convert, flee or die’ slogans, one of the calls by Islamists in Kashmir was asking Hindu men to leave but to leave their women behind as conquests of the Muslims. Right below the images of Islamists ‘conquering’ Hindu women, there are lines from the famous Faiz poem, ‘Hum dekhenge’. While the Shaheen Bagh protesters have clearly dropped the controversial lines from the poem that spoke about the destruction of idols and only the reign of Allah surviving, it has to imagine that nestled between the images of Hindu women being ‘conquered’ by Islamists and the Hindu Swastika being shattered, the protesters meant anything but that. https://www.opindia.com/2020/01/anti-caa-protest-shaheen-bagh-hinduphobic-poster-islamist-supremacy-what-it-means/ Quote Most of us did not take these protests very seriously because we could not even decipher what was so wrong with the Act that demanded such resistance. The Act only fulfilled a natural obligation India had towards Hindus, Jains, Buddhists and Sikhs from the Islamic States in the neighbourhood and even added Christians to the mix for good measure. The exclusion of Muslims from the provisions of the Act was only natural as it is ridiculous to claim that they should be treated equally as a non-Muslim from Islamic countries. But soon, it became evident that the ‘protests’ were going to get very ugly. In Mamata Banerjee’s West Bengal, Muslim mobs ran riot and damaged public property with impunity. Soon enough, on the 15th of December, Muslim mobs rampaged through the streets of Delhi setting fire to public property in their wake... It would be inaccurate to claim that it was only after the 15th of December that the Liberal Establishment entered the fray because they had been involved in the spreading of misinformation from the very beginning. But it was only after the events of the night of the 15th that the full gambit of the Liberal Establishment became obvious. Soon, it turned into protests not only against the CAA but the crackdown on the rioters of AMU and Jamia as well. Intellectuals, Bollywood actors and actresses, and liberal enclaves in prominent universities participated in demonstrations protesting against the alleged ‘fascism’ in the country. The media contributed by propagandizing on behalf of the rioters and the mobsters and inventing a host of fake news narratives. However, as the saying goes, you cannot thrash a donkey into a horse. Once a donkey, always a donkey. And thus, it happened that the Jamia ‘sheroes’ were revealed to be Islamic Extremists who had in the past called India fascist for executing the Mumbai Blast terrorist Yakub Memon and gave calls for Jihad... The fake news that was spread of ‘innocent students’ of Jamia and AMU bit the dust when footage from these Universities was released by authorities in the public domain. It also became evident that the Bollywood actors and actresses who attended these protests did not have much clue about the matter at all and were only in it for cheap publicity... It is pertinent to note that several Congress leaders have been booked for the anti-CAA riots by Muslim mobs that have gripped the nation... The crime branch of Ahmedabad police had nabbed a Congress leader for posting a fake and misleading video on social media which incited a Muslim mob during a protest march at Shah-e-Alam, Gujarat, where several police officials were brutally attacked by Muslim mobs. Congress party’s minority cell member Umar Khan Pathan had shared a video on social media in which a police action against rioters from Lucknow was passed on as an incident in Ahmedabad stoking violence in the Shah-e-Alam. The fake news had unleashed a violent Muslim mob, who attacked and injured more than 25 policemen on duty... The extensive effort that was put into these protests by the Liberal Established collapsed under its own weight when the Radical Islamic nature of these protests became evident. Prime Minister Modi remarked that the rioters could be identified from their clothes which sent the establishment into a frenzy. But they knew it was true and they were fully aware that their lamentation will fall on deaf ears. Simultaneously, the morbid anti-Hindu bigotry that was intrinsic to these protests prompted even the political parties to engage in some degree of course correction and the media realized that a shade of red or a shade of pink, a pig is still swine. Thus, when the law enforcement authorities crushed the conspiracy to spread anarchy across the country, it received widespread applause from the masses... We have been reporting on the foreign interference in the anti-CAA and anti-NRC campaign from the very beginning. On the 17th of December, we had reported how Islamic fundamentalist organizations had started working with foreign-funded NGOs and those linked extensively with ‘Urban Naxals’ in their bid to undermine the CAA which was passed by the Indian Parliament. Then, on the 2nd of January, we had reported on how the US Department of State was funding “Advocacy and Outreach Programme for Detainees in the North Eastern States of India”. In the same report, we had also mentioned how huge amounts was being funneled into India from shady globalist NGOs for the purpose of “Reducing Arbitrary Detention in India”. All of this does amount to foreign interference in Indian internal affairs.https://www.opindia.com/2020/01/all-you-need-to-know-from-caa-to-jnu-violence-islamists-congress-honk-kong-style-protest-conspiracy/ The OTHER side of the story... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarjasDevi Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Quote New Delhi: Union minority affairs minister Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi said “constant provoking of Muslims” by “professional instigators” and hatemongers was among the factors responsible for Delhi riots. He said hate-filled, fiery speeches by some “irresponsible leaders” added fuel to the fire. “We are doing our best. Even the PM has appealed for peace. It is the opposition and the experienced provokers who are not on the side of peace,” Naqvi said... Some people are constantly telling Muslims that their lives and livelihoods are at stake. They have confused them about CAA. This has what led to panic in a section of the Muslims.” “I told them they have no faith in government or Parliament… We all saw what happened there. The women sitting there are simple-minded and they are being politically exploited by a few experienced provokers. They were with them every day spreading misinformation.” The minister said: “Congress has a history of causing communal riots... Nobody can forget 1984.” https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/constant-provoking-of-muslims-reason-for-riots-mukhtar-abbas-naqvi/articleshow/74367277.cms 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted March 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 I find it very odd that these people have been classified as Muslims. What happened to being Indian citizens? They are aren't they? And in a democracy citizens have the right to speech,expression and to protest. They where does the authority come to violent hindu mobs to take the law into their own hands and start running amok? Almost everyone agrees a BJP leader started this whole mess by attacking protesters. Of course the Muslims will retaliate,what else do you expect them to do? My point for this thread is nothing has changed since 1984. This same weapon that was used against us in 84 is now being used against the Muslims and Whaeguru forbid,if one day Indian Sikhs stand up and demand for their rights these same mobs would waiting to have another rape and murder "holi". No such thing as democracy in india.Largest democracy my foot. Its a sham democracy used to mask extremist hinduism that wants to dominate and rule over all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted March 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 And I dont appreciate my thread being hijacked with tons of your material trying to bury my point. You should at least have some courtesy to go start your own refutal thread where you could paste all this penji.That way people can read both threads and come up with their own conclusions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted March 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 The violence in Delhi is not a ‘riot’. It is targeted anti-Muslim brutality https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/01/violence-in-delhi-is-not-a-riot-it-is-targeted-anti-muslim-brutality The violence began after a local BJP politician, Kapil Mishra, told a rally last Sunday that unless police cleared the streets of protesters against the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA), he and his supporters would do it themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted March 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 “Repeat of 1984” “This is just a repeat of 1984,” said a female resident of Khazoori Khas, which till the night of Feb. 26 was lined with vehicles torched during the widespread arson. “I don’t need any food,” she said, anger lacing her voice. “All our shops have been torched, who will bear the cost of that?” The “1984” motif was repeated by others, too. “What is happening to Muslims today happened to Sikhs in 1984,” said Minna Singh, a relief volunteer feeding the famished multitudes of the locality. “I lost four brothers back then,” Singh, dressed in a fawn kurta, bright blue turban, and a kirpan (a traditional sword) slung across his chest, said softly. The reference is to the pogrom against the Sikhs in northern India, especially in Delhi, in response to the assassination of then prime minister Indira Gandhi by her Sikh bodyguards. That burst of violence had left over 3,000 Sikhs dead in the capital alone, besides the thousands more killed in 40 cities across the country. The number of those injured and raped was equally gruesome. “There’s only so much we can do…We don’t care if they are Hindu or Muslim. We Sikhs have been taught that our duty is to help those who are being oppressed, so we’re here just to serve,” 26-year-old Raj Singh said, pouring dal on to plates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted March 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 How This Sikh Man Rescued Dozens Of Delhi Riot Victims On His Motorbike https://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/delhi-riots-sikh-hero_in_5e58d37cc5b6beedb4e96580 “I did not see Hindu or Muslim,” said Singh, who runs an electronics store and is a father to two children. The “sardars” are now famous among the Muslims of Kardampuri, where HuffPost India heard about them. “I have lived through the hell that was 1984,” Singh said. “Those memories have been revived.” You may have heard the expression: nanak naam chardi kala, tere bahne sarbat da bhala. Sarbat da bhala means that we want everyone to prosper. We did this to honour humanity and our 10 gurus whose central message is that we should act for everyone to prosper.” Thank Waheguru Gursikhs like this still exist who are still keeping up the true spirit of Sikhi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarjasDevi Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 On 2/29/2020 at 5:12 AM, Jageera said: Looks like nothing has changed since 1984. I am going to document as much as I can on this thread. I urge other Sikhs on this forum to update this thread too with any new articles or videos they come across. This is to ensure,when in the future, when hindu apologists and bloodthirsty nationalists here deny any blame we can refer back to this thread. You want only the most inflammatory documentation from only one point of view channeled deliberately AGAINST another point of view. You have the unmitigated hypocrisy to claim outright your thread is intended to shut down: HINDU NATIONALISTS and call them, and THEM ALONE, BLOODTHIRSTY NATIONALISTS...and then say hypocritical and silly thing like: Quote I find it very odd that these people have been classified as Muslims. What happened to being Indian citizens? They are aren't they? So why exactly are you classifying as HINDUS? No less, casting ALL blame and violation only upon HINDUS? They are not Indian citizens? Quote And I dont appreciate my thread being hijacked with tons of your material trying to bury my point. You should at least have some courtesy to go start your own refutal thread You directly INVITED comments... but now it is clear, you want PROPAGANDA from only ONE POINT OF VIEW... and that directly ANTI-HINDU ONLY... and instead of weighing the issue with fact, intelligence, fairness and discernment... you don't appreciate REBUTTAL or REFUTATION of the most SLANDEROUS MEDIA CLAIMS... which have CLEAR and OBVIOUS POLITICAL and FOREIGN MANIPULATION. Yesterday you wrote: Quote Not taking sides just posting what news I find online as some people here would deny this ever happening. Today any refutation of the SIDE YOU INSIST ON FANATICALLY,,, is taken as burying YOUR POINT. That makes you a liar. You aren't impartial, you are deceiver Everything you have posted here, from the Topic Name: "hindu terrorists raping and murdering again as usual" Is the MOST prejudicial, propagandistic, deliberately inflammatory, not bothering to fact-check and only posting the most ONE-SIDED version of the story... an you can't even get it right that the PROTESTS were about the CITIZENSHIP AMENDMENT BILL.... but drag 1984 into it, in effort to INFLAME PASSIONS AGAINST HINDU PEOPLE MANY OF WHOM WERE NOT EVEN BORN IN 1984... and AGAINST MODI government...for a PROTECTION BILL which INCLUDES PROTECTION OF SIKHS FROM EXTREMIST ISLAMIC COUNTRIES... and despite HYPOCRITICAL congressi Sikhs mad support for CONGRESS PARTY.... BJP WAS NEVER SUPPORTIVE OF Congress Government POGROM AGAINST SIKHS in revenge for putting down mad dog tyrant Indira, and nothing to do with IMMIGRATION BILL. All my points were about Citizenship Immigration Bill and protests and manipulators creating disturbances NOTHING was anti-Sikh or even anti-Muslim. YOUR points were only frothing at the mouth ANTI-HINDU propaganda distorting the issue, and the protests as something Sikh community should use as weapon to hold against Hindus. Think long and hard, because you do not seem to be thinking clearly. Quote NEW DELHI: Senior BJP leader and Defence minister Rajnath Singh on Thursday claimed that he felt "foreign forces" were trying to "weaken" India by "misleading" people against the amended citizenship law. Addressing an election meeting in Jangpura Assembly constituency, Singh reiterated that the Citizenship (Amendment) Act was not going to take away any Indian Muslim's citizenship but still misunderstanding was being created among them. "No Indian citizen including Muslims will loose their citizenship due to the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA). Still, if the citizenship of a Muslim is questioned by anyone, the BJP will stand with him," he said. "Misunderstanding is being spread to mislead the people. I feel there certainly is the hand of foreign forces behind this, who want to weaken India. The decision is to be made by you, where do you want the country to head," Singh said. He said India is not a Hindu nation and its history is written with love. "India is not a Hindu nation, it's a secular state. Some people are trying to write history of the country through the ink of hatred. But we have scripted our history through the ink of love and affection," the Union minister said. He said around 600 Pakistani Muslims were given Indian citizenship in the last five-six years, asserting that the CAA was not against the minority community in India. "We have not committed any crime by giving citizenship to minorities including Hindus and Sikhs persecuted in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. We are not the people who practice Hindu-Muslim politics," he said. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/feel-foreign-forces-behind-creating-misunderstanding-over-caa-to-weaken-india-rajnath-singh/articleshow/73778648.cms Quote Tumakuru: Lambasting Congress and its allies for opposing the Citizenship Amendment Act, Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Thursday said the ongoing protests were against the Parliament and called on the agitators to raise their voice against Pakistan's atrocities on its minorities for the last 70 years. The Prime Minister said protecting and supporting minorities of neighbouring countries who have sought refuge in India was our cultural and national responsibility."Those who are protesting against the Parliament of India, I want to tell them that the need was to expose Pakistan's deeds on the world stage. If you want to protest, protest and raise voice against Pakistan's deeds for the last 70 years, you should have that guts," he said. Addressing a gathering at Siddaganga Math near here, he said, "If you want to shout slogans, shout against the way in which atrocities are happening against minorities there; if you want to hold rallies, hold it in favour of dalits and downtrodden who have come from Pakistan (to India). If you want to do dharna, do it against Pakistans deeds." Modi was speaking after paying respects at the 'Gadduge' (final resting place) of Shivakumara Swamiji at Siddaganga Math, a prominent Lingayat seminary here. Pointing out that few weeks ago the Parliament passed the CAA, Modi said, however, the Congress and its allies and the ecosystem created by them are standing up against the Indian Parliament. He said, "the kind of hate they have towards us (BJP), similar voice can be heard against the country's Parliament these days. These people have begun protest against the country's parliament...These people are protesting against dalits, suppressed and downtroden who have come from Pakistan seeking refuge." Pointing out that Pakistan was born on the basis of religion, and India was divided in the name of religion, Modi said from the time of partition, people of other religion in Pakistan faced atrocities. "Whether it is Hindu or Sikh or Christian or Jain atrocities have increased against them in Pakistan with time. Thousands of such people had to leave their houses had to come to India as refugees," he said. Noting that Pakistan did atrocities against Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, but the Congress and its allies dont speak against Pakistan, the Prime Minister said instead they are holding protests against those who took refuge in India to save their lives, their religion and to protect the pride of their sisters and daughters."They (Congress and allies) don't have time to speak against Pakistan which did the atrocities against its minorities, what is the reason why their mouth is locked," he asked. "It is our duty to help refugees who have come from Pakistan... most of the Hindus who have come from there are dalits and downtrodden, we cannot leave them like that, protecting them is our cultural and national responsibility, he said, adding "we should also help Sikh, Jain and Christians who have come from Pakistan." There is change in India's policy against terrorism, the Prime Minister said by abrogating Article 370, effort has been made to remove fear of terror and uncertainty from the life of people there and a new beginning of development has been ushered in both in Jammu and Kashmir and Ladakh. He also said the road has been cleared for the construction of a grand Ram mandir at Lord Ram's birth place with peace and cooperation of everyone. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/protest-against-pakistans-atrocities-on-minorities-modi-tells-anti-caa-protesters/articleshow/73071308.cms 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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