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Students of Gurmat Meditation have started a Telegram app simran group on which there is gurmantar jaap 24 hours a day plus simran classes and sangat Q&As. Highly recommended.

You can join using the following invite link.

https://t.me/joinchat/VDkomrEKxOjW3jJW

You can also listen on their YouTube channel.

https://youtube.com/channel/UCYnm0mdVKOqnCrxQf9gOl_A
 

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On 3/21/2021 at 2:23 PM, gsm52 said:

Satt1176 Ji. Is page 2 different then the page 1. 

 

 

No it just explains what it will look like when you bring your focus point close to you. When I kept on hearing the explanations I was getting confused if was looking properly as all could see was out of focus blur. Was that the transparent water, dundla vision they were referring to? I checked with them and confirmed that is exactly what they mean.

You put a layer between you and physical objects so you can bring the empty space into the forefront. Now with practice the blur will clear and you will see a bright light instead of the blur. I can't comment on that yet as I don't have that dristi yet. Waheguru ji kirpa karan...

 

Note :  The instructions are by no means complete but what I have understood so far....

 

 

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2 hours ago, Ragmaala said:

Thanks for the links sat. 

 

2 hours ago, Samarbir Singh said:

Thanks for the link we don't live Simran sessions at my local gurdwara.

 

Take laha gurmukho. The knowledge they are openly sharing in the practical sessions is very hard to come by. Don't waste the opportunity. You can sit in sangat from the comfort of your own home 24 hours a days given the current covid situation. There are some really blessed souls who have met Waheguru doing simran seva. You can hear the viraag in the voices when they come back from that union.  🙏 Even listening to the Q&A you can only just bow down in awe to some of the sangat's experiences. Really inspiring group of Gurmukhs and you know what they don't hold information back. 

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36 minutes ago, Sat1176 said:

 

 

Take laha gurmukho. The knowledge they are openly sharing in the practical sessions is very hard to come by. Don't waste the opportunity. You can sit in sangat from the comfort of your own home 24 hours a days given the current covid situation. There are some really blessed souls who have met Waheguru doing simran seva. You can hear the viraag in the voices when they come back from that union.  <img src="> Even listening to the Q&A you can only just bow down in awe to some of the sangat's experiences. Really inspiring group of Gurmukhs and you know what they don't hold information back. 

Yes, i was listening to bibi maan kaur ji. There was so much pyar in group and listened to qa. It was full of vairag. I really like their voice chat option. 

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One of the things that really hit me while listening to Bibi Maan Kaur ji is to recite Gurumantra with utmost prem, and devotion. Chant Waaaaaahe and listen to it, pause and then chant Gurooooooooo, listen to it. Wait for a call back from Waheguru Ji...then chant again, listen, wait and repeat it. Chant it as if you have been separated and calling in vairag for Guru Ji. The focus should be listening to dhun..eventually the time of sitting will increase. Instead of increasing the sitting time increase the focus of listening, the sitting time will automatically increase. This was really relatable for me, and answered my question of how to increase time. I tried this method and half hour really went by fast. 

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13 minutes ago, Ragmaala said:

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Veer Ji, what does sehaj feel like ? are you able to put in into words. I dont think I have ever experienced it, so I am just curious. Does it feel like sleep ...I might have experienced few seconds of sleep during simran but not remembering anything..kind of like a head bob and waking up. 

Your nearly there bro with the head drops, just that your going in for only a few seconds. It’s just like falling asleep. I can’t describe it any other way. Like you just vanished. Sometimes you can feel yourself slowly drifting into that state and sometimes it’s quick and you were not aware when it happened, only when you come back round. Can’t say I’m feeling any ras from it though, hence my confusion. From what I understood from her response if you went into that state without thoughts and had no dreams in that state then it's sehaj, otherwise you fallen into bhav sagar.

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On 4/14/2021 at 7:35 AM, Ragmaala said:

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Veer Ji, what does sehaj feel like ? are you able to put in into words. I dont think I have ever experienced it, so I am just curious. Does it feel like sleep ...I might have experienced few seconds of sleep during simran but not remembering anything..kind of like a head bob and waking up. 

Waheguru Ji

These sections are from the book Bandginama.  Which explains the state of Sahej.  Also towards the end Sant Attar Singh Ji and Baba Nand Singh Ji give personal advice to the author of Bandginama on this state of Sahej, when he was going through it. 

 

7.4
The State of Sahej 

The spiritual stage gradually continues to advance to such an extent that we consider even the recitation of mental Simran as superfluous. Then the physical process of Simran ceases, but the mind is in union with God, in a state of poise. Now, both the physical and mental stress of Simran cease, and the mind is perfectly at rest. This is called the Sahej stage, whose peace and bliss defy description. Then one feels: 

Those who have not practiced Nam Are leading a useless, insipid life. jini aisa Hari nam na chetio se kahe jag ae ram raje Guru Ramdas - Asa. 

The ambrosial joy of Nam is experienced at this stage. The mind is in a state of inebriation and is full of unfathomable bliss, and the joys of the world stand no comparison to it and pale into insignificance. We feel as if we have found a rare treasure. When we descend from this state, mental Simran begins and, through it again, we ascend to this stage of peace, poise, and joy. 

7.4.1

My First Illusion When I first felt this stage of effortless union with God, I thought that though my bliss was infinite, yet Simran was seemingly wanting, and so I fancied that without Simran God-worship was meaningless.  At first, I imagined that God-worship consisted in repeating the Divine Name only; then I conceived that mental Simran was God-worship: now I felt as if Simran had ceased altogether and, therefore, I felt that the repose of the mind in peace and poise, without Simran, was not God-worship and was, I thought, a mere waste of time. For years, I laboured under this delusion. 

I consulted some Mahatmas, one of whom was the late Sant Attar Singh Ji. The Sant said, “My dear boy, this spiritual state of yours is superior to your previous stages the very object of Simran is to attain this state of poise and peace.” 

Later, I met Dr. Chanan Singh of Jagraon, who himself was a devotee. He escorted me to the late Sant Nand Singh Ji of Kaleran (Ludhiana District), who said, “In the first stages there is Simran with the lips, followed by mental Simran. This is followed by the mind resting in a state of poise and peace.” He added, “When somebody is performing Simran with the lips, followed by mental Simran, he stands apart from God and adores God, but when he draws nearer to God, Simran begins to drop and there emerges a state of being-at-one and one drinks of the heavenly nectar.”

He paused awhile, and said, “Take two pieces of iron. When the two pieces are welded, they become one whole. So is Simran the welding, the joining link that unites the soul with the Infinite Soul.” 

I inquired: “Since the mind does not continuously dwell in the state of Sahej, how can we permanently retain it in this state?” 

He replied: “Let the mind remain in the state of Sahej, so long as it will stay there. When it descends, take to Simran and through Simran, it could regain the same ideal state of bliss. In the course of time, the mind will ever abide in the state of ceaseless mental peace and bliss.”

7.4.3 The Fruit of Sahej 

In this blessed state, the seeker feels as if he has received an electric current within him-waves of ecstasy surge through him. A wondrous thrill permeates his being; there is boundless, overflowing joy; he is steeped in an ocean of bliss; he feels inebriated with brimming bliss. When he turns his mind to his
ears he hears sweet melodies emanating from the universe; in the cortex of the brain there is the musical melodious tinkle of bells, and celestial symphony. When the seeker’s mind turns to his nose, sweet, enthralling perfumes greet his nostrils, and when his eyes open, he sees Divine Force pervading all things and feels that the Divine Force makes all living things dance to His tune. And when his eyes close, he perceives the same Force permeating His being. He finds himself indissolubly connected and interlinked with the universe, like beads strung together. This state of Sahej brings Divine Knowledge, which I shall refer to in the chapter on “Gyan, or Divine Knowledge.”

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