sevak Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 Sikh - wearing helmet allowed or not as part of mandatory work requirement. Would like to know opinion based on Nanaksar Maryada. Also, like to know opinion on work environment which involves selling non-veg and other bad products as we know how it is in the west. For example someone working in a grocery store where you have a lot of anti-maryada products. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/21/2021 at 2:25 PM, sevak said: Sikh - wearing helmet allowed or not as part of mandatory work requirement. Would like to know opinion based on Nanaksar Maryada. You can wear a helmet, if it is a mandatory safety requirement at your workplace. Wear a Patka, then the helmet should likely fit on top. Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/21/2021 at 2:25 PM, sevak said: Sikh - wearing helmet allowed or not as part of mandatory work requirement. Would like to know opinion based on Nanaksar Maryada. Also, like to know opinion on work environment which involves selling non-veg and other bad products as we know how it is in the west. For example someone working in a grocery store where you have a lot of anti-maryada products. A Sikh must avoid touching products containing tobacco, as much as possible. Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/21/2021 at 2:25 PM, sevak said: Also, like to know opinion on work environment which involves selling non-veg and other bad products as we know how it is in the west. For example someone working in a grocery store where you have a lot of anti-maryada products. Bro, please do have a look at the link below too. Effect of Income/Occupation on Spiritual life - Gurbani | Gurmat | Spiritual Poetry and Discussions - SikhAwareness Forum Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsingh6 Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 On 3/21/2021 at 9:25 PM, sevak said: Sikh - wearing helmet allowed or not as part of mandatory work requirement. Would like to know opinion based on Nanaksar Maryada. Also, like to know opinion on work environment which involves selling non-veg and other bad products as we know how it is in the west. For example someone working in a grocery store where you have a lot of anti-maryada products. The Maryada of a Sikh is what Guru Gobind Singh blessed us with. Period. He did not give any dera any option to amend it. So please be careful in your choice of words. Sikhs in the UK have fought and won the war to wear turbans instead of helmets at work. I don't know where you stay, but remember the Sikhs fought both World Wars with turbans, not helmets. Finally, deriving income from alcohol or tobacco will impact your kamayee and your spiritual advancement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevak Posted April 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 11 hours ago, hsingh6 said: The Maryada of a Sikh is what Guru Gobind Singh blessed us with. Period. He did not give any dera any option to amend it. So please be careful in your choice of words. Sikhs in the UK have fought and won the war to wear turbans instead of helmets at work. I don't know where you stay, but remember the Sikhs fought both World Wars with turbans, not helmets. Finally, deriving income from alcohol or tobacco will impact your kamayee and your spiritual advancement. 1) Correct about the Maryada of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. I don't know what you mean by "dera", however I would trust the words of a pooran brahmgyani over the words of some scholar who studied history books and decided that "this" is the maryada of Guru Gobind Singh ji. You should be careful when you say "dera". 2) Sikhs in Armies over the world during special operation do wear helmets, for example you can see several pics of Harjit Sajjan who is the defence minister of Canada and you can see pictures of UK soldiers too wearing helmets. 3) Agreed with you on the income of tobacco and alcohol - I am not involved in this at all, but it was a question as some sikhs do here -- they are owners of motels, convience stores that sell these products a lot. Best of Luck ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jageera Posted April 2, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 23 hours ago, hsingh6 said: The Maryada of a Sikh is what Guru Gobind Singh blessed us with. Period. He did not give any dera any option to amend it. So please be careful in your choice of words. Sikhs in the UK have fought and won the war to wear turbans instead of helmets at work. I don't know where you stay, but remember the Sikhs fought both World Wars with turbans, not helmets. Finally, deriving income from alcohol or tobacco will impact your kamayee and your spiritual advancement. I agree with what you are saying and understand where you are coming from in principal. But the day a heavy tool lands on your head in a construction site will make you change your mind,if you are still alive after that.Many sites wouldn't allow you in without a helmet because of site safety rules made by the government. Same goes with motorcycle helmet.How many good young boys have passed because of head injury. I am not talking about the right to wear turban or going to war.I'm just talking on a practical level. A dead Sikh is of no use to anyone,neither to the panth nor to the Gurus. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jageera Posted April 2, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 6:43 PM, paapiman said: You can wear a helmet, if it is a mandatory safety requirement at your workplace. Wear a Patka, then the helmet should likely fit on top. Bhul chuk maaf Sound and practical advice Ji. This won't deprive any Sikh from pursuing an honest line of career. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsingh6 Posted April 3, 2021 Report Share Posted April 3, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 11:08 PM, sevak said: 1) Correct about the Maryada of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. I don't know what you mean by "dera", however I would trust the words of a pooran brahmgyani over the words of some scholar who studied history books and decided that "this" is the maryada of Guru Gobind Singh ji. You should be careful when you say "dera". 2) Sikhs in Armies over the world during special operation do wear helmets, for example you can see several pics of Harjit Sajjan who is the defence minister of Canada and you can see pictures of UK soldiers too wearing helmets. 3) Agreed with you on the income of tobacco and alcohol - I am not involved in this at all, but it was a question as some sikhs do here -- they are owners of motels, convience stores that sell these products a lot. Best of Luck ! Well understood. Thanks I hope you are aware that the pooran Bhramgyani never built a structure wherever he did bandgi, in fact he destroyed the hut where he stayed before moving on to another location. His "followers" built all these structures and this maryada that you referred to. Also do remember that a Brahmgyani does not have the power to make another person a Brahmgyani - that is only with Vahiguru and Guru Granth Sahib our guru...so while all sadhus with kamayee are to be respected our connect should only be with our Guru not with a sadhu. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevak Posted June 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 4/3/2021 at 2:07 PM, hsingh6 said: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sevak Posted June 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 On 4/3/2021 at 2:07 PM, hsingh6 said: Brahmgyani has the power. The structures were built by His Hukam and Baba Ji’s bachan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsingh6 Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 Sir, when you do not agree with the other side, it is disrespectful to restate your argument. Shouting your point by writing in Caps makes it worse. My position is unchanged and you are welcome to yours. Over six decades of my life, I have always wondered where these deras came up from? In the 70s and 80s when I was growing up, all these deras were non existent or at the periphery of thought and no one paid attention to them...the universal pyaar for Sikhee subsumed all these so called differences in observations which later started being talked about as different "maryadas' to give them a veneer of respectability. Post Bluestar, through state patronage and otherwise, they have mushroomed to break Sikhs from Bani and tangle them up in their maryadas. The only purpose of these deras, as I see them, is to misguide the people and give them such an injection, that love for Sikhee and love for humanity is secondary to love for "their" maryada and their "babajee" who travels in an SUV with a guard of twenty well built people...using sangats money....the sadhus and sants I have grown up with, never built any deras, some didn't even build a hut for themselves ...yet they could change you inside out when you met them.. Bhai Vir Singh, an ordinary Sikh with no dera and no guards influenced more people into Sikhee than any of these derawadis put together. He did not set any maryada. Don't take my word for it, hear how he changed Prof Puran Singh from being a bhagvaa Sadhu to taking Khande De Pahul...how he changed katar Arya Samajis into Sikhs just by speaking to them...by watching the series below. The fragrance of Sikhee is that of a rose which does not announce, much less shout about its presence,...but we all love the smell when we are around it. If you still disagree, I respect your views but don't agree with them... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevak Posted June 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 Please listen to Sukhmani Sahib paath on Guru Sahib bachans regarding the position of Brahmgyani / Sadhus / Sants. *** Nanaksar Structures were built based on Baba Ji prophecy & bachan. Please do an honest study of Nanaksar history. *** Not sure what deras you refer too. Im not involved with any. Im just responding to your previous comment on Nanaksar. I felt there is a need to clarify. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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