Return of Sant Baba Ishar Singh Ji - Nanaksar Waley

[sevak]

Start listening around 30:00 and continue for 10 minutes. 

[Ragmaala]

Wahegurooo!

Dhan Dhan Baba Ji di kamai bahut zyada hai , kehan sunan to bahar , we can’t even imagine
 

There was a sangi of Baba Ishar Singh Ji who wanted to have darshan of Baba Deep Singh ji. He wouldn’t let go of baba ji and also had lots of bhagti. Eventually, Baba ji told him how to have darshan. Baba ji said go to Baba Mitt Singh ji Nihang. The sikh went to Baba Miit Singh ji, but baba ji would not let him nearby. Finally, the sikh said I have been sent by Baba Ishar Singh ji. Baba Mitt Singh ji said acha, then sit close to us, and told him to close his eyes. When sikh opened his eyes , Baba Deep Singh ji was in front of him, in full tej prakash and jalal which was unbearable. Baba Mitt Singh ji came back to his original form. Sikh bowed down. Fir baba mitt singh ji ne keha ke acha (baba ishar singh ji val ishara karke) ke oh saade parde kholda hai, hun asi vi tainu kuch dasde haan baba ishar singh ji baare. Oh ohne jinna ne sanu bnaya hai....jdo oh ishnaan krde hon ta ohna di vakhi te nishan hoyega jive kise ne khanjar marya hunda...”.   Then Sikh had darshan ...

This sakhi I heard from a Nanaksar Pathi, there was more in sakhi, but samajdar nu ishara kafi hai... 

I heard personal experiences of three other people directly from their mouth who confirmed what was indicated in above sakhi. 
 

Dhan Dhan Baba ji

[sevak]

Amazing bro. Thanks for sharing the sakhi. It fills me with even more enthusiasm. Can someone shed light on what Prof. Balbir Singh ji is actually indicating.

[Guest ragmala]

On 3/30/2021 at 2:05 PM, sevak said:

It fills me with even more enthusiasm.

That's great man. If you want to get blessings from any Mahapurush you have to follow their bachan to the best of your capacity. same goes for me. 

Here is a summary of what I have understood from the bachans of Baba Ishar Singh Ji. 

Amritvela is a must, no compromise at all. Nitnem must be pakka, and is a ticket to Dargah. Minimum of 1 sehaj path/month in either form of Gurbani, Moolmantra or Gurumantra or 2.5 hrs per day minimum. Do dhyana of Guru Nanak's Charan when meditating. Pay visit to a dharamasthana everyday if possible and do sangat of Gursikhs/Gurumukhs who connect us Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Cinemas/Songs/Dramas are doorway to Hell/Narak and must be avoided. ( I have been myself guilty of not following this bachan, it took me a while to fully grasp it, its hard to not watch Dramas but is very essential for spiritual development). Read Gurbani with prem, as if you are reading a love letter from Guru Nanak Sahib, and absorb it, and follow the bachans in Gurbani. ( I tend to rush 5 Bania path) When you do path, do it with the bhav that Guru Sahib is sitting in front of you and listening to your path, then it becomes a sort of seva. Seva is also needed along with Simran to progress spiritually. I never understood if Baba Ji meant sewa of Guru Sahib or general sewa like langar, jhadoo etc. 

So if someone (me included) reallys wants prasanta of Baba Ishar Singh ji, then they must follow their bachans. This is the essence I have understood from their bachans.  

[sevak]

Thank You RagMala Guest, Excellent post. 

1) You said 1 sheaf path in the form of MoolMantra (6 malas daily) or Waheguru (80 malas) or 2.5 hours minimum (from where did you find the 2.5 hours one, bcoz I cannot find any literature that supports it.

2) I am guilty of doing my Nitnem banis fast, if I do it slow and with prem, its going to be a miss for sure. But other banis are done to the best of prem I possibly can. 

3) Dont care about cinemas, songs, dramas ----- Its all Jhooth ! man-made non-sense. 

4) I have to start seva, once this COVID-19 is mess. I wish to do jhoothay pander and jorra sewa at Gurdwaras. 

 

[Ragmaala]

20 hours ago, sevak said:

Thank You RagMala Guest, Excellent post. 

1) You said 1 sheaf path in the form of MoolMantra (6 malas daily) or Waheguru (80 malas) or 2.5 hours minimum (from where did you find the 2.5 hours one, bcoz I cannot find any literature that supports it.

 

I got this from Anand Sarovar and Anand Chamatkar where Baba Nand Singh ji tells that 2.5 hours is just karza but anything more is bhagti and gets deposited. I have heard and read about 2.5 hours numerous times but just cant pinpoint exact references. I will go through bacahns and post screenshots.

Also Sant Isher Singh Ji rara sahib emphasized dasvand of time which comes to be 2.5 hrs. 
 

 

[sevak]

I have also heard about 2.5 hours karza. However, does 2.5 hours count towards 1 sehaj path as u pointed above?

 

[Ragmaala]

42 minutes ago, sevak said:

I have also heard about 2.5 hours karza. However, does 2.5 hours count towards 1 sehaj path as u pointed above?

 

I think so. If you do nitnem 7 banias, + sehaj path+ Gurmantra simran, that easily can be 2.5 hrs

[paapiman]

On 4/1/2021 at 4:04 PM, sevak said:

1) You said 1 sheaf path in the form of MoolMantra (6 malas daily) or Waheguru (80 malas) or 2.5 hours minimum (from where did you find the 2.5 hours one, bcoz I cannot find any literature that supports it.

It is based on 10% (Daswandh) of the day, which is approximately 2.5 hrs (10% of 24 hrs). A Sikh must donate at least 10% of his net income towards charitable causes and spend a minimum of 2.5 hrs daily, on his spiritual development.

 

On 4/1/2021 at 4:04 PM, sevak said:

2) I am guilty of doing my Nitnem banis fast, if I do it slow and with prem, its going to be a miss for sure. But other banis are done to the best of prem I possibly can.

Do you enjoy doing it slow with love? Is there any particular Gurbani (out of the seven), which you enjoy reciting it slowly, the most?

 

On 4/1/2021 at 4:04 PM, sevak said:

3) Dont care about cinemas, songs, dramas ----- Its all Jhooth ! man-made non-sense. 

Take it easy tiger. We can learn somethings from them too.

Namo Andhkare

 

On 4/1/2021 at 4:04 PM, sevak said:

4) I have to start seva, once this COVID-19 is mess. I wish to do jhoothay pander and jorra sewa at Gurdwaras. 

Have you tried helping out any needy people (homeless, poor, etc) in your area? Most likely, poverty is on a rise in our country (Canada).

You already know that, Selfless service of Humanity is a core Sikh principle. Don't be disappointed, if you cannot do Sewa at a Gurughar. Try to do Sewa of humanity., if you have time

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[Ragmaala]

On 4/2/2021 at 12:54 PM, sevak said:

I have also heard about 2.5 hours karza. However, does 2.5 hours count towards 1 sehaj path as u pointed above?

 

I think I understand your question. I was not clear when writing. You are right technically 2.5 hrs does not equal 1 sehaj path.

[Soulfinder]

Amazing thread thanks for sharing

[Ragmaala]

And just to add this maryada of doing 6 malas moolmantar, 80 malas waheguru gurumantra, Japji sahibs etc was done by Singhs during Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jis times and during war times when they were mostly on horses. 

[Ragmaala]

This is a link of all the articles, marayda books, and transcription of bachans of baba Ishar Singh Ji. 

@sevak you might be interested in these. 

https://www.scribd.com/user/29524097/hansrab/uploads

 

[sevak]

2 hours ago, Ragmaala said:

This is a link of all the articles, marayda books, and transcription of bachans of baba Ishar Singh Ji. 

@sevak you might be interested in these. 

https://www.scribd.com/user/29524097/hansrab/uploads

 

Thanks Bro

[sevak]

2 hours ago, Ragmaala said:

And just to add this maryada of doing 6 malas moolmantar, 80 malas waheguru gurumantra, Japji sahibs etc was done by Singhs during Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jis times and during war times when they were mostly on horses. 

This why I love Nanaksar so much. They have brought back the puratan lost maryadas. 

[paapiman]

3 hours ago, Ragmaala said:

And just to add this maryada of doing 6 malas moolmantar, 80 malas waheguru gurumantra, Japji sahibs etc was done by Singhs during Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jis times and during war times when they were mostly on horses. 

Is it mentioned in any historical granth bro?

Does any other Samprada mention anything similar to it?

Thanks

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[Ragmaala]

2 hours ago, paapiman said:

Is it mentioned in any historical granth bro?

Does any other Samprada mention anything similar to it?

Thanks

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I can't exactly pinpoint but I feel Baba Ishar Singh ji mentioned it and also rare wale mahapurush. But its a common theme in puratan sampardas. If I come across a source, I will mention it. 

[Ragmaala]

this is from a book by Prof Balbir Singh Ji. some future bachans.

 

 

 

 

[mahanpaapi]

thank you much for this particular posting as I have been praying and searching for this one for some time. I gave all my jiwani volumes for reading and never came. HE did my work through you ji, thanks so much again and many many His Blessings for your seva.

 

 

[Ragmaala]

2 hours ago, mahanpaapi said:

thank you much for this particular posting as I have been praying and searching for this one for some time. I gave all my jiwani volumes for reading and never came. HE did my work through you ji, thanks so much again and many many His Blessings for your seva.

I am glad it I was of help