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[Guransh SIngh]

Just now, Guransh SIngh said:

I think we all know that since sgpc came in control of Akaal takht many puran hukamnaamas and maryadas have been changed. There is a hukamnaama that sampat akhand path shouldnt be done but sampath path maryada was started by dasve patshah and pargat one again by Baba Nand Singh jee. According to me one who doesnt believe in raagmala is not a sikh, waho waho baani nirankaar hai.

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[paapiman]

6 hours ago, Guransh SIngh said:

it is not compulsory for kirtan to be done in raags all the time but haazri of raags must be done, meaning one raag shabad is compulsory before staring a dharna.

Ideally speaking, we must do Kirtan in Raags. Raagis must try to learn to do Kirtan in Raags.

Raags are a very powerful tool.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[Guransh SIngh]

12 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Ideally speaking, we must do Kirtan in Raags. Raagis must try to learn to do Kirtan in Raags.

Raags are a very powerful tool.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

What about Dharna kirtan then?

[paapiman]

6 hours ago, Guransh SIngh said:

but sampath path maryada was started by dasve patshah and pargat one again by Baba Nand Singh jee.

Sant Baba Nand Singh jee made Sampat Paaths famous in Punjab, but Sampat Paaths were known to the Panth before that too. Gyani Sampradai (Taksaals), Nihang Singhs, Hajuriye Singhs, etc, knew about Sampat Paaths, before Nanaksar Samprada was started.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[Guransh SIngh]

Just now, paapiman said:

Sant Baba Nand Singh jee made Sampat Paaths famous in Punjab, but Sampat Paaths were known to the Panth before that too. Gyani Sampradai (Taksaals), Nihang Singhs, Hajuriye Singhs, etc, knew about Sampat Paaths, before Nanaksar Samprada was started.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Yes as I said maryada was given by dasve Patcham but it had become gupt.

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[paapiman]

On 11/3/2021 at 6:16 AM, Guransh SIngh said:

I think nowadays kirpan is mostly used as a symbol

We must think of Kirpans and Karre as Shastars. We must keep our Kirpans as sharp as possible and wear big fat Karre on both of our hands. In that case, at least we can do something to save an innocent person, in case he or she is being assaulted.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

On 11/3/2021 at 1:18 PM, Guransh SIngh said:

What about Dharna kirtan then?

Dharna wala Kirtan can be done sometimes by ordinary Sangat, but the focus of most Raagis must be on Raag Kirtan. If they don't know how to play Sikh traditional instruments or do Kirtan in Raags, then they must try to learn it.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[GurjantGnostic]

1 hour ago, paapiman said:

We must think of Kirpans and Karre as Shastars. We must keep our Kirpans as sharp as possible and wear big fat Karre on both of our hands. In that case, at least we can do something to save an innocent person, in case he or she is being assaulted.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Not only do Kara protect the wrists, but one could easily remove a human from this planet with one. Even one shot somebody. Especially easy with some of the Nihang Karas but any real Kara, especially heavy like you said will do it. 

Ahah. The plural must be Karre. 

[GurjantGnostic]

If you want practice in the less elegant of approaches buy a coconut and open it with your Kara. You get to eat your victory with an uneasy reassuredness and reminder of mortality. 

Top spots for Kara hits would be carotid, temple, nose bridge, hyoid bone slash wind pipe, eyes and clavicle. Also as a way to tax any limb they send your way. 

The sharp and pointed versions just open up more possibilities with ease. 

Lol forehead. We call that the faith healer. Causes a coup contrecoup knockout and with Kara that forehead gonna bleed too. 

If you don't have pepperspray, a forehead wound will drown their eyeballs in their own blood and make it hard to see. 

Good times. 

I want a set of Karre with flutes cut into them like a drillbit. 

Whew. Nasty. 

[GurjantGnostic]

Can we take a moment of reflection on Bagh Nakh while we're at it? Gorgeous. 

[paapiman]

18 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

If you want practice in the less elegant of approaches buy a coconut and open it with your Kara. You get to eat your victory with an uneasy reassuredness and reminder of mortality. 

Top spots for Kara hits would be carotid, temple, nose bridge, hyoid bone slash wind pipe, eyes and clavicle. Also as a way to tax any limb they send your way. 

The sharp and pointed versions just open up more possibilities with ease. 

Lol forehead. We call that the faith healer. Causes a coup contrecoup knockout and with Kara that forehead gonna bleed too. 

If you don't have pepperspray, a forehead wound will drown their eyeballs in their own blood and make it hard to see. 

Good times. 

I want a set of Karre with flutes cut into them like a drillbit. 

Whew. Nasty. 

How's this bro?

 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

18 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I want a set of Karre with flutes cut into them like a drillbit. 

Whew. Nasty. 

Like this one?

Bhul chuk maaf

[GurjantGnostic]

39 minutes ago, paapiman said:

How's this bro?

 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

One and done 'er right there. Wether it's bone or artery, that's gonna do it. 

[GurjantGnostic]

37 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Like this one?

Bhul chuk maaf

Great example of another one and done 'er, that's Nihang Karre like I mentioned yes. 

The fluted one would be like cutting these grooves into a standard thick Kara.

[paapiman]

On 7/27/2021 at 9:52 AM, dalsingh101 said:

The 'kirpaan gatray rakh' might not be a separate rehat, but just specifying how to carry the kirpaan. I vaguely recall some rahit saying not to carry your sword slung over your back (like a Ninja). 

Nihang Baba jee (in the video below) seems to be having a gun and a hunter's knife (maybe) like a Ninja.

@GurjantGnostic

 

 

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[dalsingh101]

22 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Nihang Baba jee (in the video below) seems to be having a gun and a hunter's knife (maybe) like a Ninja.

@GurjantGnostic

 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I don't know if people should follow certain aspects of puratan rahit like a kuttar panthi on minor things. I think how our shastars should be carried is no biggy, if you're carrying them in the first place.  

 

Also, if we follow them literally, for instance the oldest one says we can't touch steel with our feet, but how does that hold when we have to walk across modern bridges with steel in them (for instance)?

[paapiman]

29 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

I don't know if people should follow certain aspects of puratan rahit like a kuttar panthi on minor things. I think how our shastars should be carried is no biggy, if you're carrying them in the first place.  

Good point, especially when it comes to physical aspects of Rehat. We might need to adapt, whenever needed for the Panth.

One possible example. Don't the fire fighters (especially the forest ones) have to be clean shaven in order for their masks to properly stick to their faces? If that is true, basically, it will be the Sehajdhari Sikhs who will end up doing these kinds of jobs (or sewa) for the Panth.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

27 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

Also, if we follow them literally, for instance the oldest one says we can't touch steel with our feet, but how does that hold when we have to walk across modern bridges with steel in them (for instance)?

Steel or Sarabloh?

Thanks

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[dalsingh101]

17 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Steel or Sarabloh?

Thanks

 

Bhul chuk maaf

What do you see as the difference? 

 

[paapiman]

27 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

What do you see as the difference? 

 

Sarabloh, being mostly iron, while steel having less percentage of Iron.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[dalsingh101]

1 hour ago, paapiman said:

Sarabloh, being mostly iron, while steel having less percentage of Iron.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

There is no 'pure iron' bhai ji. The nearest is cast iron, and that is brittle as hell, not strong. 

[GurjantGnostic]

5 hours ago, paapiman said:

Good point, especially when it comes to physical aspects of Rehat. We might need to adapt, whenever needed for the Panth.

One possible example. Don't the fire fighters (especially the forest ones) have to be clean shaven in order for their masks to properly stick to their faces? If that is true, basically, it will be the Sehajdhari Sikhs who will end up doing these kinds of jobs (or sewa) for the Panth.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

That's a lie they tell to make you shave and keep keshdharis out professions. Full beards have always worked with gas masks. Worst case you vaseline your beard. Solved. 

[GurjantGnostic]

4 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

There is no 'pure iron' bhai ji. The nearest is cast iron, and that is brittle as hell, not strong. 

I think it stands for purified iron. But linguistically I'm in the short bus. 

[GurjantGnostic]

On 1/11/2022 at 4:12 PM, GurjantGnostic said:

I think it stands for purified iron. But linguistically I'm in the short bus. 

Not sure if there was some sort of secret alloy that was simple known, as Sarbloh, which would be very close to carbon steel, or if really it's just carbon steel and simple things are sometimes amazing.

It seems like the Guru Sahiban have a tendency to overcome anything, while staying in Hukam for the common person. Using only what common people have so that we can all be successful like them. Obviously not a Guru, because only God and Guru are perfect, but so we can follow the examples they left for us. 

It is also said that where gold is found Kalyug is. Is it perhaps not true that, where Sarbloh is loved Kalyug is not found?

If Sarbloh was an alloy, I have my own little silly theory based on whatever, that we don't have to go into right now, that it would be similar to the steel used in generators, with a higher silica content, providing enhanced properties for use with energy. It's a very fine steel for weapons actually as far as I can tell, and shouldn't be hard to smelt up. 

So I can't help myself.  To speak of the fantastic, which always seem strange, but also strange that we don't embrace it, because we know it's real, on many levels.

It is said some of these things we fight cannot be killed by conventional means. However, if you look into all the traditions, you will find that some things are known to be effective. 

These things are often woods with a high silicate content, oftentimes tipped with points made from shellfish, teeth, or obsidian, which are also silicate.

Items that are known to be of a sincerely holy nature, that are devoted to 1, are known to be effective on things that otherwise seem impervious.

And that which is natural, the claw, the tooth, is known to still effect these things. There are legends that actually a lot of these dangerous animals serve a role in helping protect this planet from more than just overpopulation of their prey, the masses of large predators we used to let roam this planet that we have a relationship with would be hostile to Invaders. According to Natives from all over. 

But if I you know in some weird twist of the multiverse you wind up fighting something that appears to be immune to bullets etc, remember what I've said, and if you don't have any of that stuff, bite it by the jugular. Or jam your nailed fingers, not into its eyes, but through its eyes, and play tickle the brain. 

Not a bad idea to have dogs or cats.  Their senses are different than ours, and the dogs are loyal.  They smell bad vibes comin a mile off, and they love you, they will bite it, and if you have one that's sizeable enough, and it happens to bite something that you know maybe a gun isn't going to put down, it might actually do the job for you, or at least be a deterrent. Delivering Jhatka is easier when the recipient is wearing a pit bull from the groin. 

Materials aside decapitations usually a win. 

This stuff sounds so crazy, but then you look at how people conducted themselves on this planet, and it makes a lot of sense.  Even the weapons represented in my profile pic, used by a people who had metallurgy, but chose these instead. 

Everyone's history, everyone's oral tradition, has something to do with trying to fight these things off that have been slithering and breeding and biting their way into us. 

On the upside, you know supernatural stuff aside, any of these weapons that you might have to give yourself a little extra piece of mind for fighting the supernatural, you know, LOL?  They work on people too, so you know it's not a waste. Fantastical and enjoyable thought processes aside even if all that stuff's real, man is still our number one problem on this planet. 

[paapiman]

On 1/11/2022 at 6:44 PM, GurjantGnostic said:

That's a lie they tell to make you shave and keep keshdharis out professions. Full beards have always worked with gas masks. Worst case you vaseline your beard. Solved. 

What about special forces bro? Aren't they suppose to be completely shaved from head to feet?

@dalsingh101

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