(Are) 95% of Sikhs living stupid lifestyle?

[Premi]

Copied from @dalsingh101 on SS forums

 

[Premi]

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Diljit Dosanjh’s 'Babe Bhangra Paunde Ne' To Release Theatrically In September

Punjabi film star Diljit Dosanjh on Wednesday announced that his upcoming film 'Babe Bhangra Paunde Ne' will arrive in cinema halls on September 30. 

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Punjabi film star Diljit Dosanjh on Wednesday announced that his upcoming film Babe Bhangra Paunde Ne will arrive in cinema halls on September 30. The 38-year-old actor shared the release date of the movie in a post on Instagram along with the film's poster.

[paapiman]

48 minutes ago, Premi said:

What you think Mr @paapiman ji ?

This dancing (Bhangra and Gidha) and Jattvaad has probably caused a lot of damage to the Panth.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[dalsingh101]

4 hours ago, Premi said:

Copied from @dalsingh101 on SS forums

 

What you think Mr @paapiman ji ?

I swear I may have posted this here as well back then? 

[SunnySingh]

Bro,

I do not think sikhs are living a stupid lifestyle.

As human beings like any others, we may have our pro and cons, but then that is present in all socities and cultures, nobody is free of them.

Maybe, we are mixing some concepts, cause though we have a goal to acheive, which is to become one with Waheguru through spiritual discipline, but then too we do move and mix in the world to an extent, thus it is natural to like and practice sports, watch movies, listen music, gathering with friends and any other healthy social activity as long as we do nothing morally bad or inflict any pain on others .

There maybe a handful of besharams, which is also normal to an extent, but then, that does not covers the rest of our vast majority, who are noble in nature.

We should not be that rigid or hard on ourselves, that we should limit ourselves that much, cause that would really be being stupid. 

 

[dalsingh101]

15 minutes ago, SunnySingh said:

Bro,

I do not think sikhs are living a stupid lifestyle.

As human beings like any others, we may have our pro and cons, but then that is present in all socities and cultures, nobody is free of them.

Maybe, we are mixing some concepts, cause though we have a goal to acheive, which is to become one with Waheguru through spiritual discipline, but then too we do move and mix in the world to an extent, thus it is natural to like and practice sports, watch movies, listen music, gathering with friends and any other healthy social activity as long as we do nothing morally bad or inflict any pain on others .

There maybe a handful of besharams, which is also normal to an extent, but then, that does not covers the rest of our vast majority, who are noble in nature.

We should not be that rigid or hard on ourselves, that we should limit ourselves that much, cause that would really be being stupid. 

 

Do you think bhangra paa-ing like a fudhoo is a good thing for Sikhs? As well as all the pendu caste horseshyte that comes with this 'culture'?  Oh yeah , and also the promotion of whisky shishky culture. 

[paapiman]

12 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

Oh yeah , and also the promotion of whisky shishky culture. 

Which can further possibly lead to domestic violence.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[dalsingh101]

4 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Which can further possibly lead to domestic violence.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

F**k that. The amount of violence I've seen inbetween guys around this too! 

[SunnySingh]

1 hour ago, dalsingh101 said:

Do you think bhangra paa-ing like a fudhoo is a good thing for Sikhs? As well as all the pendu caste horseshyte that comes with this 'culture'?  Oh yeah , and also the promotion of whisky shishky culture. 

Bro, 

the smoking , drugs, whisky or any intoxicants, which creates addictionss are bad for sikhs as well as all others. 

Bhangra, is style of music, though I am a sikh, but I do not keep dancing in this style  all the time. Just as we have rock and roll,  or hard rock music, hip hop, reggae, sou,l or be it any other music, all of them have associated a type of dance with them, so is with the punjabi Bhangra music, just as also in the bollywood films, they take 2 steps forward and one back whil dancing...lol.

Bhangra is a folk dance, just as drummers and other musicians or singers are involved in this music, but that does not mean all of us are playing drums, or playing music.....etc.

Or as many believe that listening reggae music you have to take ganjaas or hash, weeds, marihuana... that is ridiculous. For if the singer takes narcotics, that does not mean the listenner also takes or has to take narcotics, again some may say, that music induces people to take drug. 

I myself like a lot of reggae music singers, but that does not mean I will take narcotics or smoke,,. never, I am against all that rubbish. 

The thing is, people are manipulative and do so to those  who are weak mentally.... But like in all fields, one has to be mature and use a bit of common sense if any left

And the pendu catse horseshyte you mention, is true, it is really disgusting, but then again, I think this bull5hit, has been dragged somehow by the wicked.

Personally when I am down or even fine, whenever I listen to bhangra music/songs, I feel fine and uplifted, don´t know about others, but taking out the rubbish of the scene, the bhangra style of music by itself as it is, is a much valid music style.

 

[Premi]

18 hours ago, SunnySingh said:

Bro,

I do not think sikhs are living a stupid lifestyle.

As human beings like any others, we may have our pro and cons, but then that is present in all socities and cultures, nobody is free of them.

Maybe, we are mixing some concepts, cause though we have a goal to acheive, which is to become one with Waheguru through spiritual discipline, but then too we do move and mix in the world to an extent, thus it is natural to like and practice sports, watch movies, listen music, gathering with friends and any other healthy social activity as long as we do nothing morally bad or inflict any pain on others .

There maybe a handful of besharams, which is also normal to an extent, but then, that does not covers the rest of our vast majority, who are noble in nature.

We should not be that rigid or hard on ourselves, that we should limit ourselves that much, cause that would really be being stupid. 

 

 

Maybe '95%' is an exaggeration. And maybe bhangra is not as bad as some things other communities are stereotyped with. But too many of Panjabi Sikhs have a confused identity in which they think bhangra and drinking is  normal as a 'Sikh'. 

I agree that it is difficult unless one is a recluse to avoid the material things you mentioned. But not enough Sikhs are 'training' or doing sports. Obesity levels in middle aged Panjabi men and women are far too much. 

It would be better if we were associated more with e.g. Gatka or other martial arts than bhangra. Or maybe we could try and make the songs more neutral again rather than about drinking and girls. 

Like this

 

 

 

[SunnySingh]

2 hours ago, Premi said:

 

Maybe '95%' is an exaggeration. And maybe bhangra is not as bad as some things other communities are stereotyped with. But too many of Panjabi Sikhs have a confused identity in which they think bhangra and drinking is  normal as a 'Sikh'. 

I agree that it is difficult unless one is a recluse to avoid the material things you mentioned. But not enough Sikhs are 'training' or doing sports. Obesity levels in middle aged Panjabi men and women are far too much. 

It would be better if we were associated more with e.g. Gatka or other martial arts than bhangra. Or maybe we could try and make the songs more neutral again rather than about drinking and girls. 

Like this

 

 

 

 

Bro,

I do agree with what you say, but let us be frank and go direct to the point.

Those who want to drink alcohol, and be crazy, do not need just bhangra..... they may do it with birthday parties, weddings, and any other celebrations, so does that mean that culture of weddings, birthday parties .... is the cause for that behaviour?

The answer obviously is a flat NO.

We humans as usual, like to easily blame other things, situations, people ... rather than looking to ourselves and see where the fault is.

All confusions are wrong, and so not less also, that bhangra is the cause of all the unhealthy situations you mention.

Bhangra time is not in contradiction or incompatiblity with sports or studies or work.

You see, every thing, every activity has a place and time, the week has 7 days and 24 hours in each day. 

If people have obesity, that rather has to do with the food they eat,  and lack of exercise, or whatever ... but certainly not because of bhangra....

Bhangra is enjoyable, is beautiful, is something our very own, and above all to feel proud about it, that too when most of the people in world be it of any nationality do enjoy that our music style.

It is adorable to be dressed and have fun whenever possible in that attire, I feel very much emotional, when I see how the people around the world talk only of goodness of Bhangra.

It not any other thing, let us see the positive side, dancing in bhangra style for even 30 minutes will help you burns some good amount of calories,  and make you move your whole body, it is somehow like excercising to an extent.

Bro, I respect everybody´s opinions, but let us be frank, bhangra in no way is the cause to feel ashamed of ourselves as sikhs, because "the drinkers" as said above,  just need any such ocassions to let their mind and body indulge in those one sided unhealthy/negative behaviours, which has absolutely nothing to do with it.

 

[paapiman]

57 minutes ago, SunnySingh said:

 

Bro,

I do agree with what you say, but let us be frank and go direct to the point.

Those who want to drink alcohol, and be crazy, do not need just bhangra..... they may do it with birthday parties, weddings, and any other celebrations, so does that mean that culture of weddings, birthday parties .... is the cause for that behaviour?

The answer obviously is a flat NO.

We humans as usual, like to easily blame other things, situations, people ... rather than looking to ourselves and see where the fault is.

All confusions are wrong, and so not less also, that bhangra is the cause of all the unhealthy situations you mention.

Bhangra time is not in contradiction or incompatiblity with sports or studies or work.

You see, every thing, every activity has a place and time, the week has 7 days and 24 hours in each day. 

If people have obesity, that rather has to do with the food they eat,  and lack of exercise, or whatever ... but certainly not because of bhangra....

Bhangra is enjoyable, is beautiful, is something our very own, and above all to feel proud about it, that too when most of the people in world be it of any nationality do enjoy that our music style.

It is adorable to be dressed and have fun whenever possible in that attire, I feel very much emotional, when I see how the people around the world talk only of goodness of Bhangra.

It not any other thing, let us see the positive side, dancing in bhangra style for even 30 minutes will help you burns some good amount of calories,  and make you move your whole body, it is somehow like excercising to an extent.

Bro, I respect everybody´s opinions, but let us be frank, bhangra in no way is the cause to feel ashamed of ourselves as sikhs, because "the drinkers" as said above,  just need any such ocassions to let their mind and body indulge in those one sided unhealthy/negative behaviours, which has absolutely nothing to do with it.

 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[dalsingh101]

 

[GurjantGnostic]

3 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

 

Fantastic. 

[dalsingh101]

@SunnySingh

 

[Premi]

 

 

[Premi]

 

[Premi]

@SunnySingh

what you think Veer ji ?

 

[Premi]

 

 

[Premi]

 

 

[GurjantGnostic]

I prefer this dance. 

 

 

[GurjantGnostic]

3 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I prefer this dance. 

 

 

Who posted this recently? @dalsingh101?

[dalsingh101]

1 minute ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Who posted this recently? @dalsingh101?

Nah, it was HSD. Love this video!

[GurjantGnostic]

Just now, dalsingh101 said:

Nah, it was HSD. Love this video!

Every time I watch it, I have to watch it more than once. It's fantastic. 

[SunnySingh]

16 hours ago, Premi said:

@SunnySingh

what you think Veer ji ?

 

 

Bro Premi Jee,

it is obvious that this type of behaviour is shameful, which I will never support.

But Bhangra is not to be blamed.  

For example, we have a knife, now you can use it in a positive manner to cut vegetables for cooking, or, you can use it in evil way to kill someone,  so to say knife is bad and the use of it should be banned, would not make sense, isn´t it?

 

To do justice to Bhangra in the right perspective, let us first see what is the definition of Bhangra,  and how , and where  did it appear.

Bhaṅgṛā (Punjabi: ਭੰਗੜਾ/بھنگڑا) IPA: [ˈpə̀ŋɡɽaː] (listen)) is a type of traditional folk dance of the Indian subcontinent, originating in the Majha area of Punjab.[ 

It is done in the season of harvesting, and bhangra is especially associated with the vernal Vaisakhi festival.

In a typical performance, several dancers execute vigorous kicks, leaps, and bends of the body—often with upraised, thrusting arm or shoulder movements—to the accompaniment of short songs called boliyan and, most significantly, to the beat of a dhol (double-headed drum).

Struck with a heavy beater on one end and with a lighter stick on the other, the dhol imbues the music with a syncopated (accents on the weak beats), swinging rhythmic character that has generally remained the hallmark of bhangra music.

An energetic Punjabi dance, bhangra originated with Punjab farmers as a cultural and communal celebration.

Its modern-day evolution has allowed bhangra to retain its traditional Indian roots, while broadening its reach to include integration into popular music and DJing, group-based competitions, and even exercise,  and dance programs in schools and studios.

 

One may bring forward negative views of Bhangra which I do not deny, but also following are some  videos to show the posiitive sides of this dance style, and at the core are truly acceptable for which Bhangra was born: to be joyful  on cultural and communal celebrations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As seen in the 4 videos above, the Bhangra is performed by almost all ages, childish, young, adult and older generation.

It is just just fun and adorable to watch people doing it, with the ingredients of : respect, dignity, no obscenity, no touching others(in case women are present),  no alcoholic drinking, healthy exercising ....and whatever positivity one may find in it.

Bro, tell me sincerely, is it anything wrong that you find in the examples of the videos above?

Is it because some fools deginerate our  traditions with their nasty behavoiur, for which such valuable traditions should be banned and the rest majority of our kaum should feel ashamed for it?

I sincerely think, before judging anybody or anything, all views should be kept in front of one, and without siding anybody, we should give our right opinion, and not be so severe on ourselves, we are sikhs, howsoever different and distinctive, but never ever less than anybody nor to feel ashamed of our traditions.

 

To add something more positive, just see the following positive comments from people around the world who are mostly not sikhs, and see the sincerity and admiration in their feelings for Bhangra after watching this dance style.

*Punjabis, embrace your beautiful culture! Be proud to have such colorful dance!!

*Love your bhangra guys and the positive vibes and great energy it is spreading️️ Keep doing this guys I am obsessed with your Bhangra....Well Done

*Excelent work guys this is awesome workout

*Full of energy, marvellous, not a single beat missed

*So Beautiful and awesome performance amazing bhangra god bless you every one

*I'm enjoying the energy Where can I get admission I would like to lean how to dance like you guys

*No words ,commendable dance

*Dil khush kr ditta had goosebumbs when i saw it mst video bhai

*This Dance is Appsluetly Amazing......

 

And many more such comments can be found on the net where people express their joy and admiration for Bhangra...

This is the real pure Bhangra, rest is an adulteration of the original, that is why that is ugly and shameful, but the original is pure and healthy.