HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 Actually we are supposed to greet other Sikhs with 1 "Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, waheguru ji ki Fateh". Kindly tell it's meaning, history etc. 2 And the gurmantra "Waheguru" means wahe( Hindi word "waah" meaning wonderful/ great with emotion of "vismad", ) Guru refer to guru , so when we supposed to chant/medidate on waheguru we need to think like "guru you are great and remember his virtues" . Am I correct? Thanks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 3 hours ago, HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA said: Actually we are supposed to greet other Sikhs with 1 "Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, waheguru ji ki Fateh". Kindly tell it's meaning, history etc. 2 And the gurmantra "Waheguru" means wahe( Hindi word "waah" meaning wonderful/ great with emotion of "vismad", ) Guru refer to guru , so when we supposed to chant/medidate on waheguru we need to think like "guru you are great and remember his virtues" . Am I correct? Thanks I'll have to answer in pieces based on time. But. Vaheguru is Naam. It does sound like those root words but it's actually a proper noun and it's roots are in the Mantars of the four yughs. Va Vishnu, the mantar not devte. He Har Gu Gobind Ru Ram, the mantar not devte. It refers to God. The Guru Sahiban are reflections of the Jot. And thus earn that title in service to Vaheguru. They are not Vaheguru. They are however 1 with, and indistinguishable from Vaheguru. As Vaheguru is the touchstone that makes other Satguru who can make other Satguru. As much as the double entendre exists I'd be careful emphasising it but just accept the warm fuzzy almost praising the Guru Sahiban gives us. That Gurfateh was given by Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj at Vaisakhi 1699 at the unveiling of Khalsa Paanth. Previously Guru Nanak Dev Ji issued the Sat Sri Akal Gurbar Akal at mecca, before shaking up the box of rocks and leaving the pagans bowing to his charan instead of kill him. A unique occurrence in the history of the tyranical sick warlordism that is islam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 Oh the Gurfateh means loosely A few ways .. All the pure belong to the 1, all victory belongs to the 1. Or, Perfectly Amazing is the TeacherGod. The pure belong to H1m. Perfectly Amazing is the TeacherGod, all victory belongs to H1m. Something along those lines. Also if you greet a Sikh this way and they do not return the greeting they are not a Sikh of the Guru Sahiban. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 And when we do Gurmantar there is an element of praise surely. But also of surrender to entirely. Also invoking. Also connecting or calling upon. Try this little experiment? Sit for a moment. Say Vaheguru a few times as you breath out. Ask yourself, What's something that worries me? And when you do, notice the clutch in your belly and chest. Feel the strain in your face and eyes, head. Now stay with that feeling in your gut, and as you stay aware of it, say Vaheguru, and as you do surrender your whole body, head and that feeling to Vaheguru, and keep breathing Vaheguru and letting go more ...and more ...and more. Now how does your belly feel? Did the energy move? When you surrendered entirely and said Vaheguru did it not leave? Now repeat all day every day and instead of clutching or forcing to accomlish, release to Vaheguru and watch things get done for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted September 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 15 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: Vaheguru is Naam. It does sound like those root words but it's actually a proper noun and it's roots are in the Mantars of the four yughs. Va Vishnu, the mantar not devte. He Har Gu Gobind Ru Ram, the mantar not devte. It refers to God. 1 ) i just remembered that I read this in Gurdas ji vaars, 2) and we do believe that our time of death is fixed , right ? Because "sampat Saha likhaya " sohela ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted September 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 19 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: And when we do Gurmantar there is an element of praise surely. But also of surrender to entirely. Also invoking. Also connecting or calling upon. Try this little experiment? Sit for a moment. Say Vaheguru a few times as you breath out. Ask yourself, What's something that worries me? And when you do, notice the clutch in your belly and chest. Feel the strain in your face and eyes, head. Now stay with that feeling in your gut, and as you stay aware of it, say Vaheguru, and as you do surrender your whole body, head and that feeling to Vaheguru, and keep breathing Vaheguru and letting go more ...and more ...and more. Now how does your belly feel? Did the energy move? When you surrendered entirely and said Vaheguru did it not leave? Now repeat all day every day and instead of clutching or forcing to accomlish, release to Vaheguru and watch things get done for you. Quoting to grab ur attention, to see above comment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 3 hours ago, HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA said: Quoting to grab ur attention, to see above comment. Wow how did I miss that? Yes. Some say moment, some say number of breaths etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted September 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 2 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: Wow how did I miss that? Yes. Some say moment, some say number of breaths etc. Veerji , i would like to have more meaningful and constructive gurbani discussion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted September 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 6 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: Wow how did I miss that? Yes. Some say moment, some say number of breaths etc. 4 hours ago, HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA said: Veerji , i would like to have more meaningful and constructive gurbani discussion, like this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 5 hours ago, HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA said: Veerji , i would like to have more meaningful and constructive gurbani discussion. Then discuss more. I'd love that. Just busy so my answers been brief. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted September 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 21 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: Then discuss more. I'd love that. Just busy so my answers been brief. I) i quess this discussion will also act as virtual sangat kinda thing,help in staying connected with gurbani 24*7 2) kindly use / quote Sikh literature because many explains waheguru as compund world but as gurdas ji has gurdas ji has used the word waheguru first time in his writing and that too as proper noun . It's obvious to go with gurdas ji writting .also i think teeka of prof sahib should be taken as base because he wrote gurbani viyakaran . Kindly correct if wrong 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted September 17, 2022 Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 51 minutes ago, HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA said: I) i quess this discussion will also act as virtual sangat kinda thing,help in staying connected with gurbani 24*7 2) kindly use / quote Sikh literature because many explains waheguru as compund world but as gurdas ji has gurdas ji has used the word waheguru first time in his writing and that too as proper noun . It's obvious to go with gurdas ji writting .also i think teeka of prof sahib should be taken as base because he wrote gurbani viyakaran . Kindly correct if wrong I haven't read Gurbani Viyakaran. It sounds excellent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted September 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 On 9/17/2022 at 8:31 PM, GurjantGnostic said: I haven't read Gurbani Viyakaran. It sounds excellent. video short 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted September 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA said: video short Kindly see video Q1) getting mukat and merging/ meeting with God is the same thing or different? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted September 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 Just now, HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA said: Kindly see video Q1) getting mukat and merging/ meeting with God is the same thing or different? I feel bombarded with so many questions in mind, will ask them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted September 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 On 9/16/2022 at 2:37 PM, GurjantGnostic said: Wow how did I miss that? Yes. Some say moment, some say number of breaths etc. https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaL4E-1AXGg/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Now this video also opens question like does the video means A) the time of death fixed before birth , as this is popular among Hindus , or b ) someone tries to commit suicide and at the very same time God writes "farman" of his death and hence " dhur likhya farmana firha nahi " . ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted September 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA said: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaL4E-1AXGg/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Now this video also opens question like does the video means A) the time of death fixed before birth , as this is popular among Hindus , or b ) someone tries to commit suicide and at the very same time God writes "farman" of his death and hence " dhur likhya farmana firha nahi " . ? I have heard something like time place and reason for the death is fixed before birth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted September 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 On 9/17/2022 at 8:31 PM, GurjantGnostic said: I haven't read Gurbani Viyakaran. It sounds excellent. Quoting for attention grabbing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 On 9/22/2022 at 9:00 AM, HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA said: I have heard something like time place and reason for the death is fixed before birth That's one of those things we have an idea about but God knows. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 On 9/22/2022 at 8:44 AM, HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA said: Kindly see video Q1) getting mukat and merging/ meeting with God is the same thing or different? Different. Mukte is liberation. You could liberated from a number of states. Sanjog is merging. Darshan is meeting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 On 9/15/2022 at 7:15 PM, HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA said: 1 ) i just remembered that I read this in Gurdas ji vaars, 2) and we do believe that our time of death is fixed , right ? Because "sampat Saha likhaya " sohela ? The fruit of death being ordained is one no longer fears, avoids, struggles, judges or has aversions to it. Embracing that with your Naam Jaap is part of getting Mukte and being able to function as a Gurmukh, Sevadar, Shaheed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted October 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 On 9/24/2022 at 12:26 AM, GurjantGnostic said: Different. Mukte is liberation. You could liberated from a number of states. Sanjog is merging. Darshan is meeting. As discussed , i believed waheguru is compund word , but gurdas Ji's vaar said it as mantra , 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted October 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 55 minutes ago, HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA said: As discussed , i believed waheguru is compund word , but gurdas Ji's vaar said it as mantra , Hence kindly quote Sikh text in conversation so as to stop spreading wrong information. Sorry for know and unknown mistakes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted October 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA said: Hence kindly quote Sikh text in conversation so as to stop spreading wrong information. Sorry for know and unknown mistakes Kindly do not reply will continue writing tommorow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMEET SINGH CHUGGA Posted October 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 On 9/24/2022 at 2:26 AM, GurjantGnostic said: The fruit of death being ordained is one no longer fears, avoids, struggles, judges or has aversions to it. Embracing that with your Naam Jaap is part of getting Mukte and being able to function as a Gurmukh, Sevadar, Shaheed. may you please tell the meaning of "ekonkar satgurprasad" also kindly quote the explanation source if possible ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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