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2 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

That's a new account. Dude could be anybody. 

I tested him. And his writing style is the same. 

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Just now, dalsingh101 said:

I don't want to make this personal to that extent, And I cringe to say this, but I think his parents didn't encourage him to learn Panjabi. That's not his fault. We have to push him in that direction. 

Guru ji willing he'll start taking more of an interest in the Sikh culture aspect. He's got some brains, if he can get immersed in Sikhi stuff for a bit, it should transform him (with kirpa).   

He could read the english bro. 

He should definitely turn his supposedly punjabi ass around and check himself. Sikhi isn't inherited. 

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Just now, GurjantGnostic said:

He could read the english bro. 

He should definitely turn his supposedly punjabi ass around and check himself. Sikhi isn't inherited. 

Well bro, that issue of Panjabis confusing their 'culture' with their Sikhi dharam is a situation that was foisted on us by colonialists. He'd just be one of many (maybe the majority!) that need educating along these lines.    

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Just now, dalsingh101 said:

Well bro, that issue of Panjabis confusing their 'culture' with their Sikhi dharam is a situation that was foisted on us by colonialists. He'd just be one of many (maybe the majority!) that need educating along these lines.    

This is the same dude woke on colonialism? Apprecaite the feedback. I'll drop. The posts speak for themselves. 

Only thing faster than compulsive lying is sticking to truth. 

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5 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Jas also suffered this delusion. 

If Jas was what she claimed, she'd have serious issues to contend with. Living in a northern backwater (which, if you don't know, is akin to living in the old south here, but maybe even worse because on top of white racists, she'd have large pak communities to contend with too). Single parent child, whose mother is isolated from her family and indifferent to Sikhi.  It could have been bull5hit, but given how apneean are preyed upon so regularly here - the best course of action was to do a 'Justin'. As in Justin Case. So treading carefully was the right move.  

 

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4 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

If Jas was what she claimed, she'd have serious issues to contend with. Living in a northern backwater (which, if you don't know, is akin to living in the old south here, but maybe even worse because on top of white racists, she'd have large pak communities to contend with too). Single parent child, whose mother is isolated from her family and indifferent to Sikhi.  It could have been bull5hit, but given how apneean are preyed upon so regularly here - the best course of action was to do a 'Justin'. As in Justin Case. So treading carefully was the right move.  

 

Did allowing jas to shame all her ancestors with her racism and to abuse me bring her closer to Sikhi? Seemed to me she left having served her purpose. And hsd absolutely followed me over here to continue. That's on the page etched in text. 

I'm all for punjabis becoming Sikhs. I'm not for these clearly...insideous posting trends devoid of truth looking like a red flag hedgehog. 

I posted to premi they were going to use a female before they did. 

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ਅਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਬਾਚ ਇਸ ਕੀਟ ਪ੍ਰਤਿ ॥

akaal purakh baach is keeT prat ||

The Words of the Non-temporal Lord to this insect:

 

ਚੌਪਈ ॥

chauapiee ||

CHAUPAI

 

ਜਬ ਪਹਿਲੇ ਹਮ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਬਨਾਈ ॥

jab pahile ham sirasaT banaiee ||

 

ਦਈਤ ਰਚੇ ਦੁਸਟ ਦੁਖਦਾਈ ॥

dhieet rache dhusaT dhukh dhaiee ||

When I created the world in the beginning, I created the ignominious and dreadful Daityas.

 

ਤੇ ਭੁਜ ਬਲ ਬਵਰੇ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਗਏ ॥

te bhuj bal bavare havai ge ||

 

ਪੂਜਤ ਪਰਮ ਪੁਰਖ ਰਹਿ ਗਏ ॥੬॥

poojat param purakh reh ge ||6||

Who became mad with power and abandoned the worship of Supreme Purusha.6.

 

ਤੇ ਹਮ ਤਮਕਿ ਤਨਕ ਮੋ ਖਾਪੇ ॥

te ham tamak tanik mo khaape ||

 

ਤਿਨ ਕੀ ਠਉਰ ਦੇਵਤਾ ਥਾਪੇ ॥

tin kee ttaur dhevataa thaape ||

I destroyed them in no time and created gods in their place.

 

ਤੇ ਭੀ ਬਲਿ ਪੂਜਾ ਉਰਝਾਏ ॥

te bhee bal poojaa aurajhaae ||

 

ਆਪਨ ਹੀ ਪਰਮੇਸਰ ਕਹਾਏ ॥੭॥

aapan hee paramesur kahaae ||7||

They were also absorbed in the worship of power and called themselves Omnipotent.7.

 

ਮਹਾਦੇਵ ਅਚੁੱਤ ਕਹਾਯੋ ॥

mahaadhev achut kahavaayo ||

 

ਬਿਸਨ ਆਪ ਹੀ ਕੋ ਠਹਿਰਾਯੋ ॥

bisan aap hee ko ttaharaayo ||

Mahadeo (Shiva) was called Achyuta (blotless), Vishnu considered himself the Supreme.

 

ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਆਪ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਬਖਾਨਾ ॥

brahamaa aap paarabraham bakhaanaa ||

 

ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੋ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਨ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਜਾਨਾ ॥੮॥

prabh ko prabhoo na kinahoo(n) jaanaa ||8||

Brahma called himself Para Brahman, none could comprehend the Lord.8.

 

ਤਬ ਸਾਖੀ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਅਸਟ ਬਨਾਏ ॥

tab saakhee prabh asaT banaae ||

 

ਸਾਖ ਨਮਿਤ ਦੇਬੇ ਠਹਿਰਾਏ ॥

saakh namit dhebe ttahiraae ||

Then I created eight Sakshis in order to give evidence of my Entity.

 

ਤੇ ਕਹੈ ਕਰੋ ਹਮਾਰੀ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

te kahai karo hamaaree poojaa ||

 

ਹਮ ਬਿਨ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਠਾਕੁਰੁ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੯॥

ham bin avar na ttaakur dhoojaa ||9||

But they considered themselves all in all and asked the people to worship them.9.

 

ਪਰਮ ਤੱਤ ਕੋ ਜਿਨ ਨ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥

param tat ko jin na pachhaanaa ||

 

ਤਿਨ ਕਰਿ ਈਸਰ ਤਿਨ ਕਹੁ ਮਾਨਾ ॥

tin kar ieesur tin kahu maanaa ||

Those who did not comprehend the Lord, they were considered as Ishvara.

 

ਕੇਤੇ ਸੂਰ ਚੰਦ ਕਹੁ ਮਾਨੈ ॥

kete soor cha(n)dh kahu maanai ||

 

ਅਗਨਿ ਹੋਤ੍ਰ ਕਈ ਪਵਨ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਨੈ ॥੧੦॥

aganahotr kiee pavan pramaanai ||10||

Several people worshipped the sun and the moon and several others worshipped Fire and Ait.10.

 

ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਪਾਹਨ ਪਹਿਚਾਨਾ ॥

kinahoo(n) prabh paahin pahichaanaa ||

 

ਨ੍ਹਾਤ ਕਿਤੇ ਜਲ ਕਰਤ ਬਿਧਾਨਾ ॥

nrahaat kite jal karat bidhaanaa ||

Several of them considered God as stone and several others bathed considering the Lordship of Water.

 

ਕੇਤਿਕ ਕਰਮ ਕਰਤ ਡਰਪਾਨਾ ॥

ketik karam karat ddarapaanaa ||

 

ਧਰਮ ਰਾਜ ਕੋ ਧਰਮ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੧੧॥

dharam raaj ko dharam pachhaanaa ||11||

Considering Dharmaraja as the Supreme representative of Dharma, several bore fear of him in their actions. 11.

 

ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਾਖ ਨਮਿਤ ਠਹਿਰਾਏ ॥

je prabh saakh namit ttaharaae ||

 

ਤੇ ਹਿਆਂ ਆਇ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਕਹਵਾਏ ॥

te hiaa(n) aai prabhoo kahavaae ||

All those whom God established for the revelation of His Supremacy, they themselves were called Supreme.

 

ਤਾ ਕੀ ਬਾਤ ਬਿਸਰ ਜਾਤੀ ਭੀ ॥

taa kee baat bisar jaatee bhee ||

 

ਅਪਨੀ ਅਪਨੀ ਪਰਤ ਸੋਭ ਭੀ ॥੧੨॥

apanee apanee parat sobh bhee ||12||

They forgot the Lord in their race for supremacy. 12

 

ਜਬ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੋ ਨ ਤਿਨੈ ਪਹਿਚਾਨਾ ॥

jab prabh ko na tinai pahichaanaa ||

 

ਤਬ ਹਰਿ ਇਨ ਮਨੁਛਨ ਠਹਿਰਾਨਾ ॥

tab har in manuchhan ttaharaanaa ||

When they did not comprehend the Lord, then I established human beings in their place.

 

ਤੇ ਭੀ ਬਸਿ ਮਮਤਾ ਹੁਇ ਗਏ ॥

te bhee bas mamataa hui ge ||

 

ਪਰਮੇਸਰ ਪਾਹਨ ਠਹਿਰਏ ॥੧੩॥

paramesur paahan ttahare ||13||

They also were overpowered by ‘mineness’ and exhibited the Lord in statues.13.

 

ਤਬ ਹਰਿ ਸਿੱਧ ਸਾਧ ਠਹਿਰਾਏ ॥

tab har sidh saadh ttahiraae ||

 

ਤਿਨ ਭੀ ਪਰਮ ਪੁਰਖ ਨਹੀ ਪਾਏ ॥

tin bhee param purakh neh paae ||

Then I created Siddhas and sadhs, who also could not realize the Lord.

 

ਜੇ ਕੋਈ ਹੋਤ ਭਯੋ ਜਗਿ ਸਿਆਨਾ ॥

je koiee hot bhayo jag siaanaa ||

 

ਤਿਨ ਤਿਨ ਅਪਨੋ ਪੰਥੁ ਚਲਾਨਾ ॥੧੪॥

tin tin apano pa(n)th chalaanaa ||14||

On whomsoever wisdom dawned, he started his own path. 14.

 

ਪਰਮ ਪੁਰਖ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਨਹ ਪਾਯੋ ॥

param purakh kinahoo(n) neh paayo ||

 

ਬੈਰ ਬਾਦ ਅਹੰਕਾਰ ਬਢਾਯੋ ॥

bair baadh ha(n)kaar baddaayo ||

None could realise the Supreme Lord, but instead spread strife, enmity and ego.

 

ਪੇਡ ਪਾਤ ਆਪਨ ਤੇ ਜਲੈ ॥

pedd paat aapan te jalai ||

 

ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੈ ਪੰਥ ਨ ਕੋਊ ਚਲੈ ॥੧੫॥

prabh kai pa(n)th na kouoo chalai ||15||

The tree and the leaves began to burn, because of the inner fire.None followed the path of the Lord.15.

 

ਜਿਨਿ ਜਿਨਿ ਤਨਿਕ ਸਿੱਧ ਕੋ ਪਾਯੋ ॥

jin jin tanik sidh ko paayo ||

 

ਤਿਨ ਤਿਨ ਅਪਨਾ ਰਾਹੁ ਚਲਾਯੋ ॥

tin tin apanaa raahu chalaayo ||

Whosoever attained a little spiritual power, he started his own path.

 

ਪਰਮੇਸਰ ਨ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਪਹਿਚਾਨਾ ॥

paramesur na kinahoo(n) pahichaanaa ||

 

ਮਮ ਉਚਾਰਤੇ ਭਯੋ ਦਿਵਾਨਾ ॥੧੬॥

mam auchaar te bhayo dhivaanaa ||16||

None could comprehend the Lord, but instead became mad with ‘I-ness’.16.

 

ਪਰਮ ਤੱਤ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਨ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥

param tat kinahoo(n) na pachhaanaa ||

 

ਆਪ ਆਪ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਉਰਝਾਨਾ ॥

aap aap bheetar aurajhaanaa ||

Nobody recognized the Supreme Essence, but was entangled within himself.

 

ਤਬ ਜੇ ਜੇ ਰਿਖਰਾਜ ਬਨਾਏ ॥

tab je je rikh raaj banaae ||

 

ਤਿਨ ਆਪਨ ਪੁਨ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਚਲਾਏ ॥੧੭॥

tin aapan pun si(n)mirat chalaae ||17||

All the great rishis (sages), who were then created, produced their own Smritis.17.

 

ਜੇ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਨ ਕੇ ਭਏ ਅਨੁਰਾਗੀ ॥

je si(n)mratan ke bhe anuraagee ||

 

ਤਿਨਿ ਤਿਨਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕੀ ਤਿਆਗੀ ॥

tin tin kiraa braham kee tiaagee ||

All those who became followers of these smritis, they abandoned the path of the Lord.

 

ਜਿਨ ਮਨ ਹਰਿ ਚਰਨਨ ਠਹਿਰਾਯੋ ॥

jin man har charanan ttaharaayo ||

 

ਸੋ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਨ ਕੇ ਰਾਹ ਨ ਆਯੋ ॥੧੮॥

so si(n)miratan ke raeh na aayo ||18||

Those who devoted themselves to the Feet of the Lord, they did not adopt the path of the Smritis.18.

 

ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਚਾਰ ਹੀ ਬੇਦ ਬਨਾਏ ॥

brahamaa chaar hee bedh banaae ||

 

ਸਰਬ ਲੋਕ ਤਿਹ ਕਰਮ ਚਲਾਏ ॥

sarab lok teh karam chalaae ||

Brahma composed all the four Vedas, all the people followed the injunctions contained in them.

 

ਜਿਨ ਕੀ ਲਿਵ ਹਰਿ ਚਰਨਨ ਲਾਗੀ ॥

jin kee liv har charanan laagee ||

 

ਤੇ ਬੇਦਨ ਤੇ ਭਏ ਤਿਆਗੀ ॥੧੯॥

te bedhan te bhe tiaagee ||19||

Those who were devoted to the Feet of the Lord, they abandoned the Vedas.19.

 

ਜਿਨ ਮਤ ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬਨ ਤਿਆਗੀ ॥

jin mat bedh kateban tiaagee ||

 

ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕੇ ਭੇ ਅਨੁਰਾਗੀ ॥

paarabraham ke bhe anuraagee ||

Those who abandoned the path of the Vedas and Katebs, they became the devotees of the Lord.

 

ਤਿਨ ਕੇ ਗੂੜ ਮੱਤ ਜੇ ਚਲਹੀ ॥

tin ke gooR mat je chalahee ||

 

ਭਾਂਤਿ ਅਨੇਕ ਦੁਖਨ ਸੋ ਦਲਹੀ ॥੨੦॥

bhaat anek dhookh so dhalahee ||20||

Whosoever follows their path, he crushes various types of sufferings.20.

 

ਜੇ ਜੇ ਸਹਿਤ ਜਾਤਨ ਸੰਦੇਹਿ ॥

je je sahit jaatan sa(n)dheh ||

 

ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੇ ਸੰਗਿ ਨ ਛੋਡਤ ਨੇਹ ॥

prabh ke sa(n)g na chhoddat neh ||

Those who consider the castes illusory, they do not abandon the love of the Lord.

 

ਤੇ ਤੇ ਪਰਮ ਪੁਰੀ ਕਹ ਜਾਹੀ ॥

te te param puree keh jaahee ||

 

ਤਿਨ ਹਰਿ ਸਿਉ ਅੰਤਰੁ ਕਛੁ ਨਾਹੀਂ ॥੨੧॥

tin har siau a(n)tar kichh naahee ||21||

When they leave the world, they go to the abode of the Lord, and there is no difference between them and the Lord.21.

 

ਜੇ ਜੇ ਜੀਯ ਜਾਤਨ ਤੇ ਡਰੇ ॥

je je jeey jaatan te ddare ||

 

ਪਰਮ ਪੁਰਖ ਤਜਿ ਤਿਨ ਮਗ ਪਰੈ ॥

param purakh taj tin mag pare ||

Those who fear the castes and follow their path, abandoning the Supreme Lord.

 

ਤੇ ਤੇ ਨਰਕ ਕੁੰਡ ਮੋ ਪਰਹੀ ॥

te te narak ku(n)dd mo parahee ||

 

ਬਾਰ ਬਾਰ ਜਗ ਮੋ ਬਪੁ ਧਰਹੀ ॥੨੨॥

baar baar jag mo bap dharahee ||22||

They fall into hell and transmigrate again and again.22.

 

ਤਬ ਹਰਿ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਦੱਤ ਉਪਜਾਇਓ ॥

tab har bahur dhat aupajaio ||

 

ਤਿਨ ਭੀ ਅਪਨਾ ਪੰਥੁ ਚਲਾਇਓ ॥

tin bhee apanaa pa(n)th chalaio ||

Then I created Dutt, who also started his own path.

 

ਕਰ ਮੋ ਨਖ ਸਿਰ ਜਟਾ ਸਵਾਰੀ ॥

kar mo nakh sir jaTaa savaaree ||

 

ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਨ ਕਛੂ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ ॥੨੩॥

prabh kee kiraa kachh na bichaaree ||23||

His followers have long nails on their hands and matted hair on their heads . They did not understand the ways of the Lord.23

 

ਪੁਨਿ ਹਰਿ ਗੋਰਖ ਕੋ ਉਪਰਾਜਾ ॥

pun har gorakh ko auparaajaa ||

 

ਸਿੱਖ ਕਰੇ ਤਿਨਹੰੂ ਬਡ ਰਾਜਾ ॥

sikh kare tin hoo badd raajaa ||

Then I created Gorakh, who made great kings his disciples.

 

ਸ੍ਰਵਨ ਫਾਰਿ ਮੁਦ੍ਰਾ ਦੁਐ ਡਾਰੀ ॥

sravan faar mudhraa dhuaai ddaaree ||

 

ਹਰਿ ਕੀ ਪ੍ਰਤਿ ਰੀਤਿ ਨ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ ॥੨੪॥

har kee prat reet na bichaaree ||24||

His disciples wear rings in their ears and do not know the love of the lord.24.

 

ਪੁਨਿ ਹਰਿ ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਕੋ ਕਰਾ ॥

pun har raamaana(n)dh ko karaa ||

 

ਭੇਸ ਬੈਰਾਗੀ ਕੋ ਜਿਨ ਧਰਾ ॥

bhes bairaagee ko jin dharaa ||

Then I created Ramanand, who adopted the path of Bairagi.

 

ਕੰਠੀ ਕੰਠਿ ਕਾਠ ਕੀ ਡਾਰੀ ॥

ka(n)ttee ka(n)tt kaatt kee ddaaree ||

 

ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਨ ਕਛੂ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ ॥੨੫॥

prabh kee kiraa na kachhoo bichaaree ||25||

Around his neck he wore necklace of wooden beads and did not comprehend the ways of the Lord.25.

 

ਜੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਪਰਮ ਪੁਰਖ ਉਪਜਾਏ ॥

je prabh param purakh aupajaae ||

 

ਤਿਨ ਤਿਨ ਅਪਨੇ ਰਾਹ ਚਲਾਏ ॥

tin tin apane raeh chalaae ||

All the great Purushas created by me started their own paths.

 

ਮਹਾਦੀਨ ਤਬ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਉਪਰਾਜਾ ॥

mahaadheen tab prabh auparaajaa ||

 

ਅਰਬ ਦੇਸ ਕੋ ਕੀਨੋ ਰਾਜਾ ॥੨੬॥

arab dhes ko keeno raajaa ||26||

Then I created Muhammed, who was made the master of Arabia.26.

 

ਤਿਨ ਭੀ ਏਕੁ ਪੰਥੁ ਉਪਰਾਜਾ ॥

tin bhee ek pa(n)th auparaajaa ||

 

ਲਿੰਗ ਬਿਨਾ ਕੀਨੇ ਸਭ ਰਾਜਾ ॥

li(n)g binaa keene sabh raajaa ||

He started a religion and circumcised all the kings.

 

ਸਭ ਤੇ ਅਪਨਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਯੋ ॥

sabh te apanaa naam japaayo ||

 

ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਾਹੂੰ ਨ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਯੋ ॥੨੭॥

sat naam kaahoo(n) na dhiraRaayo ||27||

He caused all to utter his name and did not give True Name of the Lord with firmness to anyone.27.

 

ਸਭ ਅਪਨੀ ਅਪਨੀ ਉਰਝਾਨਾ ॥

sabh apanee apanee aurajhaanaa ||

 

ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕਾਹੂ ਨ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥

paarabraham kaahoo(n) na pachhaanaa ||

Everyone placed his own interest first and foremost and did not comprehend the Supreme Brahman.

 

ਤਪ ਸਾਧਤ ਹਰਿ ਮੋਹਿ ਬੁਲਾਯੋ ॥

tap saadhat har moh bulaayo ||

 

ਇਮ ਕਹਿ ਕੈ ਇਹ ਲੋਕ ਪਠਾਯੋ ॥੨੮॥

eim keh kai ieh lok pattaayo ||28||

When I was busy in the austere devotion, the Lord called me and sent me to this world with the following words.28.

ਅਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਬਾਚ ॥
akaal purakh baach ||
The Word of the Non-Temporal Lord:

ਚੌਪਈ ॥
chauapiee ||
CHAUPAI

ਮੈ ਅਪਨਾ ਸੁਤ ਤੋਹਿ ਨਿਵਾਜਾ ॥
mai apanaa sut toh nivaajaa ||

ਪੰਥ ਪ੍ਰਚੁਰ ਕਰਬੇ ਕਹੁ ਸਾਜਾ ॥
pa(n)th prachur karabe keh saajaa ||
I have adopted you as my son and hath created you for the propagation of the path (Panth).

ਜਾਹਿ ਤਹਾ ਤੈ ਧਰਮੁ ਚਲਾਇ ॥
jaeh tahaa tai dharam chalai ||

ਕਬੁਧਿ ਕਰਨ ਤੇ ਲੋਕ ਹਟਾਇ ॥੨੯॥
kabudh karan te lok haTai ||29||
“You go therefore for the spread of Dharma (righteousness) and cause people to retrace their steps from evil actions”.29.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji in Bachithr Naatak - 57

 

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10 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Did allowing jas to shame all her ancestors with her racism and to abuse me bring her closer to Sikhi? Seemed to me she left having served her purpose. And hsd absolutely followed me over here to continue. That's on the page etched in text. 

I'm all for punjabis becoming Sikhs. I'm not for these clearly...insideous posting trends devoid of truth looking like a red flag hedgehog. 

I posted to premi they were going to use a female before they did. 

Well, in the UK, we have a lot of experience in dealing with all sorts of insidious attacks now, so we've developed approaches to it based on experience. 

And you need to be thicker skinned bro, if there is anywhere you'll hear c**ty comments, it'll be on the net. People have different predilections and have been brought up differently, so when I meet the uniformed Panjabi peasant casteist (which is a norm to be honest), it's no surprise. If it were a bloke, you should know me already, I'd probably not hesitate to put the boot in - but you can't be doing that to broads as this just hands them over to predators. 

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Dude let's not derail this thread further. We already deviated into psychology. If you have other issues you want to discuss - create a new thread. Let's try and keep this about BRICS and related issues please. 

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1 minute ago, dalsingh101 said:

Well, in the UK, we have a lot of experience in dealing with all sorts of insidious attacks now, so we've developed approaches to it based on experience. 

And you need to be thicker skinned bro, if there is anywhere you'll hear c**ty comments, it'll be on the net. People have different predilections and have been brought up differently, so when I meet the uniformed Panjabi peasant casteist (which is a norm to be honest), it's no surprise. If it were a bloke, you should know me already, I'd probably not hesitate to put the boot in - but youy can't be doing that to broads as this just hands them over to predators. 

If anyone actually cares about Jas. Correct her. Except she's gone after trolling me. 

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9 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Did allowing jas to shame all her ancestors with her racism and to abuse me bring her closer to Sikhi? Seemed to me she left having served her purpose. And hsd absolutely followed me over here to continue. That's on the page etched in text. 

I'm all for punjabis becoming Sikhs. I'm not for these clearly...insideous posting trends devoid of truth looking like a red flag hedgehog. 

I posted to premi they were going to use a female before they did. 

Wait, you think I’m that Jassa person? She and her white boyfriend may have been racist but you're not much better.

This is difficult for a narcissist like you to understand but not everyone wants to indulge your child like behaviour. To hide behind Gurbani and claim this is because you are a convert is ridiculous. It’s the way you are that causes these issues.  I’ve never had a problem with normal people converting from whatever background.  

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6 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

If anyone actually cares about Jas. Correct her. Except she's gone after trolling me. 

She actually had a point about Panjabi blokes putting their own females on stages to prance about entertaining people. But anyway, why bring that up. That was dealt with and I've explained why I treated her like I did.  

 

 

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1 minute ago, HSD said:

Wait, you think I’m that Jassa person? She and her white boyfriend may have been racist but you're not much better.

This is difficult for a narcissist like you to understand but not everyone wants to indulge your child like behaviour. To hide behind Gurbani and claim this is because you are a convert is ridiculous. It’s the way you are that causes these issues.  I’ve never had a problem with normal people converting from whatever background.  

No..bro...this is what I mean. Drink some alkaline water. 

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Just now, GurjantGnostic said:

Fair point. 

For all we know, we might have saved her from being in a window in Amsterdam!

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3 minutes ago, HSD said:

Wait, you think I’m that Jassa person? She and her white boyfriend may have been racist but you're not much better.

This is difficult for a narcissist like you to understand but not everyone wants to indulge your child like behaviour. To hide behind Gurbani and claim this is because you are a convert is ridiculous. It’s the way you are that causes these issues.  I’ve never had a problem with normal people converting from whatever background.  

Bro you don't have an opinion on anyone converting. You're entirely ignorant and not a Sikh. I pray you convert Har Kirpa. 

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8 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Bro you don't have an opinion on anyone converting. You're entirely ignorant and not a Sikh. I pray you convert Har Kirpa. 

With that logic you don’t have an opinion on anything as you don’t have a brain. I was always a Sikh, you’re the convert.  Don’t forget that or convince yourself otherwise no matter how much your ego desires it. 

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1 hour ago, HSD said:

A lot of that is happening now or has already happened. It’s all up in the air. Another possible issue is that our lot may not even grasp anything and end up being shut out of any positives. It’s like these lot aim for the worst of both worlds type outcomes. Overall I think world trade is going to go through a lot of ups and downs that make greater cohesion redundant, but time will tell. Not trying to be a doomer, just that’s how I see it going - though it’s all there to play for so nothing is completely messed up yet.  

Nah, whatever has happened already is nothing compared to what could happen with the planned changes. And if our lot do what you say above, and fail to grasp and manipulate opportunities is it not just natural selection at work? I'm tired of the victim game too many rural apnay play. Yes, we're getting f**ked by others but we f** our own over without batting an eyelid. 

If things f**k up royally, it'll be because we keep failing to organise beyond feudal level bullshit and don't even bother with strategic planning, modernisation and organising with long term and mid range goals. Instead people just keep winging it without any forethought. It's all well and good pointing outwards, but ignoring our own failings is suicidal and stupid. If this doesn't stop real soon, we will probably be picked apart by multiple sources. 

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On 2/8/2023 at 4:21 PM, dalsingh101 said:

Nah, whatever has happened already is nothing compared to what could happen with the planned changes. And if our lot do what you say above, and fail to grasp and manipulate opportunities is it not just natural selection at work? I'm tired of the victim game too many rural apnay play. Yes, we're getting f**ked by others but we f** our own over without batting an eyelid. 

If things f**k up royally, it'll be because we keep failing to organise beyond feudal level bullshit and don't even bother with strategic planning, modernisation and organising with long term and mid range goals. Instead people just keep winging it without any forethought. It's all well and good pointing outwards, but ignoring our own failings is suicidal and stupid. If this doesn't stop real soon, we will probably be picked apart by multiple sources. 

Well time will tell. Aimless navel gazing won’t do us any good either especially as we’re already being dissected by outsiders for some time now. 

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