Capital punishment and Torture

[Premi]

A good idea?

Should more countries have a 'death row'?

The grooming thread made me think about this.

The main issue would be miscarriages of justice and on a Sikhi level I feel it would be inhumane (although if you punish someone whilst in the act of a crime, I feel like that would be more justified). 

[GurjantGnostic]

24 minutes ago, Premi said:

A good idea?

Should more countries have a 'death row'?

The grooming thread made me think about this.

The main issue would be miscarriages of justice and on a Sikhi level I feel it would be inhumane (although if you punish someone whilst in the act of a crime, I feel like that would be more justified). 

I think you hit on it. You take people out in the act, or keep em locked up, but it does also have to do with the systems and resources available. 

[dalsingh101]

2 hours ago, Premi said:

A good idea?

Should more countries have a 'death row'?

The grooming thread made me think about this.

The main issue would be miscarriages of justice and on a Sikhi level I feel it would be inhumane (although if you punish someone whilst in the act of a crime, I feel like that would be more justified). 

Maybe if groomers are 'banged to rights' but unfortunately (looking at the US) these types of systems can be abused and skewed like using them in racialised ways or executing people who've done political acts like Udham Singh. You just have to have a right wing government in for this to happen.

What happens is that 'the system' contorts the laws to target some groups over others inline with their objectives and to spread fear in certain communities.    Certain people have long standing form for this......

 

 

 

[dalsingh101]

It can easily go to this type of thing. I'm not against it, but just know that it is likely to be abused. 

 

[Premi]

And to add to the original post, torture is something I have never heard of with Sikhs.

But burning Muslims or feeding them pork is something Puratan Sikhs have done .

Was it Wazir Khan that Baba Banda Singh Bahadur killed very slowly and painfully ?

@paapiman 

@dalsingh101

[dalsingh101]

On 2/23/2023 at 7:34 AM, Premi said:

And to add to the original post, torture is something I have never heard of with Sikhs.

But burning Muslims or feeding them pork is something Puratan Sikhs have done .

Was it Wazir Khan that Baba Banda Singh Bahadur killed very slowly and painfully ?

@paapiman 

@dalsingh101

Europeans visiting the Sikh kingdom commented on Sikhs abhorring torture.

Feeding them pork was done by some when a muslim wanted to take amrit, and given how dangerous the situation was (in terms of infiltration) it may have been a method to weed out spies as well as make potential recruits show they had no fealty to their former faith.

The case of burning a body I can recall was against a Syed around NWFP who continually orchestrated jihads against the Sikh kingdom. When he and his jihadis were defeated the soldiers searched the battle field for his body and burnt it. Note they only did this with him, and not any other bodies.