Muslim Students Harass Hindu Classmates in UK; Force Them to Convert to Islam: Report

[Sajjan_Thug]

Muslim Students Harass Hindu Classmates in UK; Force Them to Convert to Islam: Report

By IANS On 4/19/23

Hindu students in the UK are targets of bullying and racial discrimination in classrooms with Muslim pupils telling them to change their religion to make their lives easier, according to a London-based think tank.

The Telegraph reported quoting a study by the Henry Jackson Society that Muslim pupils called for Hindus to convert or face "threats of hell for disbelievers" using terms such as "kaffir".

Half of Hindu parents surveyed reported that their child had experienced anti-Hindu hate in schools, while less than 1 per cent of schools surveyed reported any anti-Hindu related incidents in the last five years.

Numerous Instances
The survey, covering 988 Hindu parents and more than 1,000 schools around the country, found that there were "numerous instances of derogatory references made towards Hindus, such as mocking their vegetarianism and belittling their deities, which were also made by Islamist extremists rallying against the Hindu community in Leicester.

"In one instance, a female Hindu pupil had beef thrown at her, and a male student was reported to have to change East London schools three times on account of anti-Hindu bullying. Eight physical assaults were detailed," the study said.

In one example a child "was harassed and told that if they convert to Islam, their life will become so much easier" and another was told: "You aren't going to survive very long... If you want to go to paradise, you'll have to come to Islam... Hindus are the herbivores at the bottom of the food chain, we will eat you up."

Another parent said children were told to watch videos of an Islamic preacher and to "convert because Hinduism makes no sense", The Telegraph reported.

According to the think tank, religious education was "fostering discrimination" against Hindus with inappropriate references to the Indian caste system and misconceptions over the worship of deities which students felt made "a mockery of them".

It was found that only 15 per cent of parents surveyed believed schools adequately address anti-Hindu related incidents.

Ben Everitt, Conservative MP for Milton Keynes, told The Telegraph that the findings were "damning" and called for urgent improvements to religious education.

"The findings in this report are damning and shed light on the varying themes and forms which anti-Hindu discrimination materialises in the classroom," he said.

Source: https://www.ibtimes.sg/muslim-students-harass-hindu-classmates-uk-forces-them-convert-islam-report-69911

[dalsingh101]

Hindus seem to be making the most out of the economic rise of India. If the above takes place (and I have no doubt that it does), many weak or vulnerable Sikhs will also be experiencing the same.

I'm seeing efforts that seem to be leading to a recognition of 'hinduphobia' in a similar way sullay used islamophobhia.        

[Veer]

The answer lies in major differences between hindutva and Islamists.

Islamists seek nihilism the complete destruction of all societies its economy, infrastructure and social/political structure. Highly erratic, based on the gun. 
 

Hindutva or in general Hindu movements tend to mimimize disruption of societies in their quest for change. They are usually well led, mostly mature and long term. Hindus are encouraged to get educated, spread and capture opportunities in big business, politics, education and the medical field. Before these attempts were erratic now it’s like a mission with a growing unity not seen before 

Of course, I’m generalizing 

I notice a growing irrational fear amongst some about the rise of india and Hindus in general 

[dalsingh101]

2 hours ago, Veer said:

They are usually well led, mostly mature and long term. Hindus are encouraged to get educated, spread and capture opportunities in big business, politics, education and the medical field. Before these attempts were erratic now it’s like a mission with a growing unity not seen before 

I agree, they are like jews of old, and like them, they'd be running around like frightened rabbits incapable of defending themselves or striking back if their hosts turn on them most likely?

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I notice a growing irrational fear amongst some about the rise of india and Hindus in general 

I don't really see this? Ok, some juts are sh1tting themselves, but they get frightened of their own shadows and imagine all sorts of RSS bahmunh bogeymen lurking around in the shadows, this is nothing new. 

 

[Veer]

 

3 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

I agree, they are like jews of old, and like them, they'd be running around like frightened rabbits incapable of defending themselves or striking back if their hosts turn on them most likely?

I don't really see this? Ok, some juts are sh1tting themselves, but they get frightened of their own shadows and imagine all sorts of RSS bahmunh bogeymen lurking around in the shadows, this is nothing new. 

Our goals are different sir. We want education, spread across the globe, and grab small and big business, and corner the important areas like politics, medical, IT and resources and universities and colleges.  I believe Hindus have the education and brains to do this. 

It’s much more than some street beef more comprehensive. As a civilization we want a UNSC seat and join an expanded NATO. The street beef and ignoring education got the Pakis nowhere they are at the bottom wherever they go. They cry daily on tv as to what happened to them. Too much sword waiving much like some of our Sikh brothers. I see newer Sikh children and immigrants  going the same way and watch them sleep at McDonald’s. 

By host you probably mean the Western countries rest assured when they decide to destroy us all Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs nothing can stop them. These guys start World Wars and kill 30-40 million people like nothing. I expect this to happen during my lifetime. 

Don’t mistake street power with real power. 

[Veer]

 

3 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

I agree, they are like jews of old, and like them, they'd be running around like frightened rabbits incapable of defending themselves or striking back if their hosts turn on them most likely?

I don't really see this? Ok, some juts are sh1tting themselves, but they get frightened of their own shadows and imagine all sorts of RSS bahmunh bogeymen lurking around in the shadows, this is nothing new. 

 

The Muslim community seems concerned 

[GurjantGnostic]

3 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

I agree, they are like jews of old, and like them, they'd be running around like frightened rabbits incapable of defending themselves or striking back if their hosts turn on them most likely?

I don't really see this? Ok, some juts are sh1tting themselves, but they get frightened of their own shadows and imagine all sorts of RSS bahmunh bogeymen lurking around in the shadows, this is nothing new. 

 

They have me concerned. And I'm rooting for them, but some movements take a direction that make me nope out. A lot of black groups too once you dig. All these groups are playing copy the narcissist. 

[dalsingh101]

51 minutes ago, Veer said:

Our goals are different sir. We want education, spread across the globe, and grab small and big business, and corner the important areas like politics, medical, IT and resources and universities and colleges.  I believe Hindus have the education and brains to do this. 

I think so too. 

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It’s much more than some street beef more comprehensive. As a civilization we want a UNSC seat and join an expanded NATO. The street beef and ignoring education got the Pakis nowhere they are at the bottom wherever they go. They cry daily on tv as to what happened to them.

I think that's as much to do with rampant/normalised sociopathy amongst them from constant breeding with cousins myself?

 

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Don’t mistake street power with real power. 

Don't underestimate how powerful street level activism and power can be either. Hindus are the most likely (of all brown and black people) to be slaves and not fight back if it gets ugly.   

[Veer]

Why is the education and money part so crucial to us? 
 

a) For Hinduism to survive we need millionaire and billionaire sponsors just like the Christians, Muslims and Jews. 
 

b) “Fighting Back” hasn’t really changed anything for the blacks or the Muslims or the Latinos has it? Just lost generations some with 100 year sentences these 3 are still bombed, killed and shot while walking down the street. Living on welfare with baby mommas no jobs is no freedom it’s slavery at its lowest. 

[dalsingh101]

34 minutes ago, Veer said:

Why is the education and money part so crucial to us? 
 

a) For Hinduism to survive we need millionaire and billionaire sponsors just like the Christians, Muslims and Jews. 
 

b) “Fighting Back” hasn’t really changed anything for the blacks or the Muslims or the Latinos has it? Just lost generations some with 100 year sentences these 3 are still bombed, killed and shot while walking down the street. Living on welfare with baby mommas no jobs is no freedom it’s slavery at its lowest. 

One thing you've seemed to have overlooked is how some Sikhs have a LONG tradition of skilled work in various fields. We aren't all peasants. We have transferrable skills and knowledge.  So that caricature you're selling above doesn't cut it for some of us. 

[Veer]

22 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

One thing you've seemed to have overlooked is how some Sikhs have a LONG tradition of skilled work in various fields. We aren't all peasants. We have transferrable skills and knowledge.  So that caricature you're selling above doesn't cut it for some of us. 

I’m not talking about Sikhs that’s a separate matter and I won’t comment on that 

I’m talking about the three with the most street power: blacks, Muslims and Latinos at least here in North America. 

[dalsingh101]

2 minutes ago, Veer said:

I’m not talking about Sikhs that’s a separate matter and I won’t comment on that 

I’m talking about the three with the most street power: blacks, Muslims and Latinos at least here in North America. 

You have to be careful with the nerd power. It's valuable!: knowledge and ability always is, but you can trap corrupt weak ones in prisons or situations they wont escape.  Those people you mention (minus the latinos who aren't here in any numbers) are powerful here in the UK.   

[Premi]

On 4/20/2023 at 1:59 PM, dalsingh101 said:

Hindus seem to be making the most out of the economic rise of India. If the above takes place (and I have no doubt that it does), many weak or vulnerable Sikhs will also be experiencing the same.

I'm seeing efforts that seem to be leading to a recognition of 'hinduphobia' in a similar way sullay used islamophobhia.        

The Islamophobia has been most understandable in the UK given all the issues associated (particularly with Paks in the UK) e.g. ;

- sexual deviancy 

- Terrorism incidents in UK and USA and other 'western' countries 

- forced conversions and pushing their religion aggressively everywhere

- criminality generally 

BUT, they are strong and can fight back and are feared; Hindus are using this 'hinduphobia' because they are not willing to do street warfare and physical violence. The Jews had some street gangsters a few generations ago in the UK and were active in the early-mid 20th century in the US in cities like New York but left 'that life' well before the Italians did. The only Hindu gangsters in the UK I am aware of are Tamils

@Veer - how well linked are Tamils to other Hindu Indian populations and 'Hindutva'? 

19 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

 

I don't really see this? Ok, some juts are sh1tting themselves, but they get frightened of their own shadows and imagine all sorts of RSS bahmunh bogeymen lurking around in the shadows, this is nothing new. 

 

Since 'jatts' are the majority of Sikhs in the UK, it's not surprising ? And don't you think they are/were right to have some suspicions/alertness to RSS/Indian spies, for example there have been known/suspected GOI agents in Gurdwara committees like in Southall. I thought you would be more astute than that ?!

15 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

I think so too. 

I think that's as much to do with rampant/normalised sociopathy amongst them from constant breeding with cousins myself?

 

Don't underestimate how powerful street level activism and power can be either. Hindus are the most likely (of all brown and black people) to be slaves and not fight back if it gets ugly.   

I think it's a lot to do with using their interpretation of Islam and actions of their dusht ancestors from e.g. Mughals and Afghans as an excuse to justify exerting power and violating other communities and to treat them as lowly inferiors.

Agree again that 'street' level reputation helps massively, but it comes at a cost of prison time, criminal records etc. Different situation if civil war etc breaks out though. Wonder what the Hindu response would be if Muslims continue to give them a hard time in the UK. 

 

13 hours ago, Veer said:

Why is the education and money part so crucial to us? 
 

a) For Hinduism to survive we need millionaire and billionaire sponsors just like the Christians, Muslims and Jews. 
 

b) “Fighting Back” hasn’t really changed anything for the blacks or the Muslims or the Latinos has it? Just lost generations some with 100 year sentences these 3 are still bombed, killed and shot while walking down the street. Living on welfare with baby mommas no jobs is no freedom it’s slavery at its lowest. 

Jews are well integrated/assimilated as many of them are mostly European genetically so most are 'white passing' and many have anglicised names so many whites don't see them differently to Anglos/Irish people.

I don't see obviously brown Hindus being able to have the same covert or overt ability to blend into society in white countries. 

[dalsingh101]

1 hour ago, Premi said:

Since 'jatts' are the majority of Sikhs in the UK, it's not surprising ? And don't you think they are/were right to have some suspicions/alertness to RSS/Indian spies, for example there have been known/suspected GOI agents in Gurdwara committees like in Southall. I thought you would be more astute than that ?!

Nah, I think this segment of the panth are mostly running around in circles. A big part of what they do is a cultural practice of theirs to try and mobilise their 'biraderi' by exaggerating external threats to schizogenic levels. I mean, look at how long this has been going on and the extent of it. Example: only NOW are we even starting to move away from the colonial era narrative of our granths being 'interpolated' by some devious bahmunh conspiracy. This had our own lazily disregarding or secretly editing most of our ithihaasic granths and even doubting Dasam Granth. Juts see hindu conspiracies everywhere but are too dumb to see the brit colonial ones that they've historically jumped on in droves. 

Then you have the insanity of juts claiming all these conspiracies  - and with your very own eyes, you simultaneously see their elected 'leaders'   (i.e. Badals) forming political alliances with the very people juts were jumping up and down about??!? You couldn't make it up.  

Yes, spying takes place, that's no shock. Yes, you people are deeply infiltrated as well. It's probably the juts who make the most noise about it, who are the plants/spies themselves, trying to distract everyone?

 

Plus, more importantly, juts themselves are spying and infiltrating the panth with their own agenda of destroying it and building some gay jut supremacist biraderi on top of it. 

[Veer]

1 hour ago, Premi said:

The Islamophobia has been most understandable in the UK given all the issues associated (particularly with Paks in the UK) e.g. ;

- sexual deviancy 

- Terrorism incidents in UK and USA and other 'western' countries 

- forced conversions and pushing their religion aggressively everywhere

- criminality generally 

BUT, they are strong and can fight back and are feared; Hindus are using this 'hinduphobia' because they are not willing to do street warfare and physical violence. The Jews had some street gangsters a few generations ago in the UK and were active in the early-mid 20th century in the US in cities like New York but left 'that life' well before the Italians did. The only Hindu gangsters in the UK I am aware of are Tamils

@Veer - how well linked are Tamils to other Hindu Indian populations and 'Hindutva'? 

Since 'jatts' are the majority of Sikhs in the UK, it's not surprising ? And don't you think they are/were right to have some suspicions/alertness to RSS/Indian spies, for example there have been known/suspected GOI agents in Gurdwara committees like in Southall. I thought you would be more astute than that ?!

I think it's a lot to do with using their interpretation of Islam and actions of their dusht ancestors from e.g. Mughals and Afghans as an excuse to justify exerting power and violating other communities and to treat them as lowly inferiors.

Agree again that 'street' level reputation helps massively, but it comes at a cost of prison time, criminal records etc. Different situation if civil war etc breaks out though. Wonder what the Hindu response would be if Muslims continue to give them a hard time in the UK. 

 

Jews are well integrated/assimilated as many of them are mostly European genetically so most are 'white passing' and many have anglicised names so many whites don't see them differently to Anglos/Irish people.

I don't see obviously brown Hindus being able to have the same covert or overt ability to blend into society in white countries. 

The Tamils never fought for Hinduism but for the Tamil ethnicity which includes Hindus, Christian’s and some Muslims. 

The group to watch out for is the ones from Haryana. Although still small in number they seem to show up everywhere. At least here in Canada. They hold the same attitudes, brotherhood as their Sikh jatt and Pakistani Muslim jatt counterparts.

They are purposely being sent here some are current or former army officers, intelligence or just here to organize. 

You have probably seen this but this was in Canada recently 

 

We have no intention to blend in with whites. We intend to do it our way with our names, culture, food, etc. in the end it will be give  and take. 

[dalsingh101]

One thing hindus don't understand about england and its culture is how it is normal to have low level kick offs. I mean, it happens over football all the time.

Hindus crying about minor protests is only going to make them look more weak. 

[Premi]

19 minutes ago, Veer said:

The Tamils never fought for Hinduism but for the Tamil ethnicity which includes Hindus, Christian’s and some Muslims. 

The group to watch out for is the ones from Haryana. Although still small in number they seem to show up everywhere. At least here in Canada. They hold the same attitudes, brotherhood as their Sikh jatt and Pakistani Muslim jatt counterparts.

They are purposely being sent here some are current or former army officers, intelligence or just here to organize. 

You have probably seen this but this was in Canada recently 

 

We have no intention to blend in with whites. We intend to do it our way with our names, culture, food, etc. in the end it will be give  and take. 

 Hindus are more 'coconutised' in the UK than Sikhs and Muslims. This is true of Gujaratis and some south Indians. They  seem more likely to intermarry with whites and lose their culture. I've never met a Hindu born in the UK who seems 'religious'; they must be rare. I've met and seen plenty of practising Sikhs and Muslims in comparison. 

Other than Rishi Sunak, the next two most prominent Hindu MP's in the government (Priti Patel, and Alok Sharma) are both married to whites. 

[Veer]

We ain’t crying the ones petitioning foreign governments to ban hindutva or getting white politicians to condemn India, joining up with the Pakistanis,  paying Rihanna to tweet, creating documentaries, showing up at embassies, burning flags ,vandalizing temples are the ones crying 

[dalsingh101]

1 minute ago, Veer said:

We ain’t crying the ones petitioning foreign governments to ban hindutva or getting white politicians to condemn India, joining up with the Pakistanis,  paying Rihanna to tweet, creating documentaries, showing up at embassies, burning flags ,vandalizing temples are the ones crying 

That's a tiny segment of the panth. And I know hindus aren't all angels themselves and some of these things are done by plants they've set up themselves.  Yes, we have some dramatic dumbos in our ranks. That they appear to be able to rile India so much is strange. I think, like juts use the 'bahmunh' bogeyman to try and 'mobilise the pendu ranks', some hindus like to use the khalistani bogeymen to do the same within their own community. 

Plus some of those things you mention, like creating documentaries are normal healthy actions of people defining themselves and creating their own narratives. Given how brits pretty much foisted a stupid narrative on lumpen sections of the community (you can guess which) , it's important we define ourselves - Sikhi has long standing provenance with this. 

But I will say this - I think it's a shame that people from non-abrahamic backgrounds (i.e. dharmics) are fighting each other like this. It makes us no different to those animals. From my perspective veer, Sikhi is the dharam that supersedes the previous ones in this kalyug. It's a shame we don't have more positive vichaar along this line between ourselves. And I'm under no illusion - we (as Sikhs) are way off from having been pushed this way and that from external sources and our own internal rural fudhuness and where that has taken us. You have to understand, as a Sikh, that just becomes another battle to fight (and win).    

[Veer]

But that’s the thing I don’t hindutvades have done anything here in the west of any major significance. Certainly, they haven’t run planes into buildings or created grooming gangs 

this bahman boogeyman needs to go. They are only 20-30 million strong scattered across India 

[dalsingh101]

2 minutes ago, Veer said:

But that’s the thing I don’t hindutvades have done anything here in the west of any major significance. Certainly, they haven’t run planes into buildings or created grooming gangs 

this bahman boogeyman needs to go. They are only 20-30 million strong scattered across India 

The same with the khalistani boogeyman. That crude conception needs to go too. That some Sikhs want independence isn't anything surprising, especially given their pre-colonial history. It's not like northern Ireland and Scottish people don't have similar things going on.

 

And there is NO EXCUSE for killing civilians - on either side.   

[Veer]

I think the hindutvades would do anything to have all dharmics on one side. 
 

outside of the Hindus the driving force behind hindutva are the Jain community: ambani, adani, Amit shah and some of the major pracharaks of the hindutva are actually Jain or deeply influenced by Jainism especially anybody from Gujarat 

[dalsingh101]

1 hour ago, Veer said:

We have no intention to blend in with whites. We intend to do it our way with our names, culture, food, etc.

I think you're wrong, I've seen plenty of hindu women go full on coconut with white men. 

[Veer]

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2 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

I think you're wrong, I've seen plenty of hindu women go full on coconut with white men. 

Hmm interesting observation but then I again I’ve seen the reverse as well.

btw, do you think the current day gangster Punjabi songs mimic the earlier gangsta rap of the Negro race?

The oversized clothes, hand gestures, references to police, gangs, guns, drugs.

We know what happened to the black community after listening to that crap. Generations lost 100 year sentences, 300 hundred year sentences. 
 

I’ll tell you from personal experience life is tough on the range 

[dalsingh101]

27 minutes ago, Veer said:

btw, do you think the current day gangster Punjabi songs mimic the earlier gangsta rap of the Negro race?

The oversized clothes, hand gestures, references to police, gangs, guns, drugs.

We know what happened to the black community after listening to that crap. Generations lost 100 year sentences, 300 hundred year sentences. 

Interesting question.

I think some elements of what you might call 'gangsta' lyrics were prevalent in Panjabi folk music before the black NWA stuff, I'm talking about stuff about Jugga and Jeona Maur. Kuldeep Manak nailed that typed of stuff for my generation. I've listened to black gangsta stuff myself when younger (NWA, Ice Cube, Ice T etc.) and it never turned me into a wannabe fudhu. 

I've actually not seen what you are referring to above but presume it is some Canadian nonsense?  And please, don't post any examples here. Please!  

 

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I’ll tell you from personal experience life is tough on the range 

I'll tell you from personal experience, you give it large in London, you better be careful. The wrong 14 year old would off you, and they wouldn't need a gun.