PAL_07 Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 Hirda or kamal or ram Naam ur me geyeio are all references to the heart lotus as opposed to the trikuti tenth door experience of tenth door is not the highest. Highest is when the lotus opens and transcendence into 4th stage the jot is in the heart lotus but the bud is closed https://www.facebook.com/share/p/9rEUPZCkRXGqNrcy/?mibextid=WC7FNe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabatam Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 Thanks for this post. As per sant jagjit singh ji harkhowale you will feel steady coolness in your heart upon spiritual heart awakening and i've spoken to yogi amandeep singh regarding hirde and amrita nadi which is totally different than chakra awakening. I found this snippet from sri ramana maharishi book Be as you are by david godman: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAL_07 Posted September 26 Author Report Share Posted September 26 At this moment Sri Maan Sant Jagjit Singh is the highest parmhans above Dhakki wale sant but there is no more in the future no more Sant will be known as per Bhai Gurdas Saadh Na Diseh Koe I just recently came back from India after 12 years of difficult gristh jeevan mahapurkh recognised me straight away after 10 years I stayed with mahapurkh when I was a bachelor it’s a great shame people don’t know the greatness of baba jagjit singh ALL I CAN DO IS DEDICATE THIS CD ON THIS FORUM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 1 hour ago, PAL_07 said: At this moment Sri Maan Sant Jagjit Singh is the highest parmhans above Dhakki wale sant but there is no more in the future no more Sant will be known as per Bhai Gurdas Saadh Na Diseh Koe I just recently came back from India after 12 years of difficult gristh jeevan mahapurkh recognised me straight away after 10 years I stayed with mahapurkh when I was a bachelor it’s a great shame people don’t know the greatness of baba jagjit singh ALL I CAN DO IS DEDICATE THIS CD ON THIS FORUM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAL_07 Posted September 27 Author Report Share Posted September 27 I was staying at Sultanpur Lodhi and Sant ji explained how much abhyas they do that there head goes so dry from tiredness and lack of nutrition and explained it’s all about health and the brain because your using the body to do so much abhyas ie 25 japji sahib every day baba told me they do 25 japji every day once a long time ago some mahraj swaroop were needed in Canada and baba ji kept mahraj swaropp on head all through a 13 hour flight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAL_07 Posted September 27 Author Report Share Posted September 27 Mahapurkh said the stream of worldly people is going down stream and that sant are going upstream and that they have entered the coffin while alive but however the greatness of sant ji is that they are parm vidvaan with acute knowledge and have helped a lot of people 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAL_07 Posted September 29 Author Report Share Posted September 29 Thanks for the passage you provided from the book this explains page 974 of Gurbani beautifully and mahraj says man nirmal naheh Dasam duar bhagat beni talks about the niche (heart lotus) being above the tenght door 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PAL_07 Posted September 30 Author Report Share Posted September 30 Amrit ras gaganantar pijeh this explained in the video ||3|| Dasam duara etc full shabad this is reference to a shop having lots of commodity ( you see so much of the universe) but the Hat Par Alla is reference to the heart lotus that is closed aaleh bhither thathi means the commodity is inside the safe lock where the store keeper keeps the cash reference to inside the lotus is the atma ie man tu jot swarop hai har ji terrh naal hai ie God is in the heart ie tu hirdeh vaseh gupt dhin ratee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAL_07 Posted September 30 Author Report Share Posted September 30 I must disclose that I had a 5 second experience of this it was like I was trancending into the heart it was like the heart was opening and also at the same time my Dasam duar was opening and I could feel like I was going into light this is the light of the heart opening and shining in the mind bhaji every bodies kundalini is awake Kundalini means our Mann and since we constantly think of food and sex these are the characteristics of the kundalini immersion in lower chakras as our jat sat and food moderation is disciplined and we begin abhyas of mantra or Gurbani this kundalini through the invoking of prem and surti in Shabad begins to rise and you can feel a swelling in the heart when bairaag is attained this kundalini rises to the trikuti and then sahnsar chakra is basically permanently remaining in connected with God but also the Ego still exists although not tainted by the 5 evils when the surti enters the amritnadi which is within the sukhman nadi it goes down into the heart and remains absorbed in God mahraj says in Bani Atmeh nu Atmeh De Parteet Hoveh Ta ghar Hi Parcha Paieh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAL_07 Posted September 30 Author Report Share Posted September 30 The 4th stage is joti jot milee sampooran thiya ram in this state the Haumai is dead and God is control and all is left is God’s ego ie the awareness that Akaal pursh has this awareness a characteristic of God is called Chit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAL_07 Posted September 30 Author Report Share Posted September 30 The human inherits this awareness aswell as Sat and anand and becomes a 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAL_07 Posted September 30 Author Report Share Posted September 30 You must have heard the expression butterflies in my stomach this is reference to the heart lotus further closing due to stress Kilesh which are opposite to prem which open the heart 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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