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something is really messed up. we have been waiting and waiting and waiting. what the bloody hell are they up too. I understand the book has been given more importance but I thought the update was complete and it was just a matter of Nihang teja Singh Jee to put it up.

man...

hopefully soon.

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On the topic of Nihangs, to deviate for a moment, could any members of the UK Dal Panth or otherwise, please provide some examples of battles that the Akali Nihang Dal Panth has been engaged in during the past 100 years (I'm hoping jokes concerning the Monica Bedi protection will be left out!).

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Brother Vijaydeep Singh Ji, there is difference between BATTLE and RIOTS. 1947's riots are a big black spot on face India and Pakistan. Those riots were acts of cowards. Killing helpless and unarmed people is a shame. Thousands of women (Hindu, Sikh and Muslim women) were raped, kidnapped and killed during those riots. Please provide us details who were those coward people, who took part in "Ethnic cleansing in Indian Punjab". Also, please explain how these people were different to those who took part in "Ethnic cleansing in PAKISTANI Punjab, Sindh, Sooba Sarhad and Pak Occupied Kashmir".

Warm Regards.

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Fateh I agree wit amrit paji. I dont think ethnic cleansing during the partition can be considered as a battle, it was dark period in history. many people decided to become 'nihang singhs' during paritition so that they could freely carry weapons which allowed them to easily plunder. soon after partition the decided to stop becoming nihang singhs and went back to ther usual ways. My grandfather told me of atleast 10 people from our village who did this, adopted nihang dress to loot people. the 1947 riots can therefore not be considered as an event that nihang singhs were inolved in. Blame for the riots should lie in the hands of those who produced masses of literature prior to partition in order to incite racial hatred, but then again the muslims were doing the same thing.

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Das is sorry to and take his comment back but das read it from a book when he was a child.Perhaps it was train to pakistan where it was writtan that before partition ranks of nihungs swell and Sikh state armed them and Muslims were armed by Fronteier Tribals and state of Bahawalpur.

One more tihng over here that das did not endrose this thing either.What happened by Sikhs during 1947 is as Bad as what Banda did.

Das has taken part in riots during 1990 when he was very young.They are more like civil war more when Muslims attack Hindu population.What happned in Gujrat during 2002 or 1984 were more a massacre then riots.

Das is aware that at mnay places Muslim within Indian terrirtory shouted We took Pakistan Laughing and we will take India fighting.

Hank Ke Liya Pakistan and Larh Ke Lenge Hindustan.

Andn they unfurlned Pakistani Flag also.

Sikhs or Hindu just reated of offense on them accrosss the border or say within country.In Bihar reaction was of Noakhali hindu massacre.

Yet das agree that this shoulod not have happened but we should agree to our act and feel sorry for that as it was our fault that we got provoked.

Das said more in way like Pope John Paul(last pope) agreed over the attrocities being done by them on native Amrecian.

Das is agan sorry.

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Gurfateh

One more question.

Unlike the Akalis of present Day Akali Dals,whom Nihungs call more a Malechhas.While they show sense of belonging to Akali Kaur Singh Ji.

Das has another question.

Did these Akalis of northern Area had anything to do with institution set up over that Area By Baba Phula Singh Ji?

As Niuhngs took refuge to Nijam Area of Deccan from Britshers, did these Akalis also made thier base in Dogra Areas with the simalr reasons?

Das wants to know more and thanks in advance.

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Fateh everyone

Please dont read shastarvidya and believe all of it is true. Some of it is and it is good, but some of its just rubbish. Some of its just lies. these people have made a mockery of the Taksal chapter of Mehta bhindra. They refuse to belive the tape that Sant Gurbachan Singh recorded giving sewa of taksal to Kartar Singh. Also the stuff on Baba Banda Singh is just pure jealousy. And why brand radha swami and narakdharis as part of the panth, especailly because of the narakhdhari involvement in stoking a fire that claimed thousands of lives. If those people hadnt had a meeting in amritsar how different ould things be inthe panth today?

These people are liars, and conceited lars at that.

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Also the origins of the budha dal is highly dubious. To think that Budha dal is named after baba Budha Jee is ludicrous. Akali Guru Hargobind Jee was jaani jaan. Just as Akali Guru Nanak Dev Jee's teachers couldnt teach him anything becasue he already knew everything, how could the much repsected Baba Budha Jee teach Akali Guru Hargobind about shastars and Jang. Akali Guru knew it all already. The Budha dal came into existence after Nawab Kapur Singh divided Dal Khalsa into 2 units Budha and Taruna Dal. Budha Dal was to focus on prachaar and maintenance of guru asthans, and lastly on battel, wheraes the Taruna Dal focused more on battle and protecting the "Mazlooms". Something that Budha dal today could never do. They call others melach, but they need to look at themselves first.

victory to guru panth and guru granth.

chatanga

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dont beleive everything about the nihangs cos they certainly arent a patch on the old traditional nihangs. The traditional nihangs were not afraid of death or upsettng the authorites ike the new one are. Also the nihangs gave thier lives for the protection and welfare of the Granth and Panth. Now they believe they ARE the panth. I could go on and on. But This please everyone debate. In the last 20 or so years wherever the Aad Guru Darbar has been desecrated the Nihangs have never showed thier faces. Why ? In the early 80s the police attacked Baba Kirtan Singh Jee's shauni at Amritsar and killed 4 nihangs. Did anyone from Budha Dal turn up to find out what happened? No. The only people to make a stand on this was Sant Jarnail Singh of Bhindra and Baba Nihal Singh of the Harian Wela Taruna Dal. Where were the others? What About Baba Sant Singh's stance on the kar sewa after Bluestar? The Nihang samprdaye fell in estimation in the eyes of the Panth. Also go back to the artcile ive submitted on the Udasi panth. Where were the protectors of the panth when the udasis were killing or raping memers of the sangat? Rupz you say this group hasnt changed. please read this sshort story.

One day at Darbar Sahib a brahmin came and started crying that his wife had been taken by the soldeirs of the subedar of kasur. Lehna Singh Bhangi and all the other sardar who were sitting and eating langar at once stood up, and mounting their horses prepared for war. They attacked Kasur and brought back the brahmins wife. Now could you ever see Baba Santa Singh Jee or any of the other Nihang Singh making a similiar stand in todays times if the son of the Punjab Chief Minister kidnapped a girl?

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perhaps Nihang Niddar Singh wants t use the new material for his book first, then maybe move it tothe site. but as i look today on nirnajana's good advice, the only thing that was updated on 01/01/07 was the copyright.

Now i read the copyright and it seems to fall in line with the copyright of the singh sabhia, akjs, ddt, and sgpc. Has the sanatan viewpoint taken a u-turn?

chatanga

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