Niranjana Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Exactly - so, why should Sikhs waste time seeking to convince this fringe personality cult group? We have far bigger fish to fry! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niranjana Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Exactly - so, why should Sikhs waste time seeking to convince this fringe personality cult group? We have far bigger fish to fry! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 bigger fish? the akj will go mental if you refer firstly to them as fish, and secondly cos of their being weggie warriors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niranjana Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 "weggie warriors" Are you sure you mean that? Surely you meant 'veggie' and 'weggie' which sounds rather like something else implying that they have their Kacheras caught... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithr Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 "weggie warriors" Are you sure you mean that? Surely you meant 'veggie' and 'weggie' which sounds rather like something else implying that they have their Kacheras caught... LOL that's what I thought too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Lol... I think Chatangas local dialect or sangat most likely uses 'wah' instead of 'Vah. I hope this is the case, otherwise it would frankly be quite worrying what Chatanga Sahib has free time to think about! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 well done shaheediyan. yes panjabis use w instead of v when using english words. i think that will be the post of the year so i hope my friend Fateh Singh will be noting this down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangster Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 the same way akj would not accept raagmala as it wud show bhai randhir singh not to be 100% genuine the same way other groups e.g taksaal wont as it will do the same for the likes of baba takur singh ji or gurbachan singh bhindrawale. the thing with akj is well espeically the youth they are to ignorant to open the minds to even listen to debates that a pro raagmala. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 gangster the differencce is that the akj was built around what randhir singh thought and how he interpreted gurbani, in a very viakaran sense. the taksal, nihang dals etc have been there form the times of Dasam pita and interpret gurbani in a viakaran sense and more importnantly in an antreev sense, as per Guru's order. You cannot fathom the mystical from viakran arth alone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangster Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 sorry for my ignorance im not very familar with some terms like viakaran and antreev you wouldnt mind explaining them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 viakaran arth is like what you get on sikhi to the max, just a literal translation of the line. but the antreev arth which is the deeper meaning of the line, the whys, hows, wherefores , if you like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithr Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Actually the Sikhi to the max arth are not based on Viakaran, they are just literal translation based on the translators own knowledge of words. If you ask a person with knowledge of Viakaran about Sikhi to the max, they can point towards many mistakes according to Viakaran rules. There are only two steeks based on Viakaran. One was done by Prof Sahib Singh which is available on the internet and the other was done by Giani Harbanse Singh. The late Joginder Singh Talwara also translated based on Viakaran. Bhai Randhir Singh also translated tukhs based on Viakaran. In fact these four men have each written a book on Gurbani Viakaran. It is also to be noted that these men destroy modern liberal minded Sikh people's Naastik arguements based on Viakaran. Because these modern liberal minded Sikhs don't posses any knowledge of Gurbani Viakaran yet they try to write translations undermining Sikhi. By liberal minded I mean Kala Afghanists, Missionaries etc Giani Harbanse Singh Jee is one of my favourite writers. It was after reading his book on Dasam Granth that I became fully convinced about Dasam Bani and became aware of the dangers posed by anti Dasam Granth people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 http://spiritualityexperience.org/?page_id=5 Excellent viyakhyan as per Professor Sahib Singh Ji's student Bhai Rajinder Singh Gill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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