nischala Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Sat Sri Akal, Sri Guru Granth Sahib talks a lot about meditating on the True Guru and serving the True Guru. What does this mean? What exactly are we supposed to meditate upon? How can we serve the Guru when he is not in human form? "The chosen ones meditate single-mindedly on the Guru." [sGGS page 3] "I serve my True Guru with single-minded devotion, and lovingly focus my consciousness on Him." [sGGS page 26] "Meditate on the image of the Guru within your mind" [sGGS page 21] Please forgive my ignorance - I am new to Sikhi and eager to learn as much as I can about the faith. Thank you in advance for your guidance! Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh! Nischala 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 We serve by doing simran = remembrance of God; by selflessly serving humanity to help bring them towards God, or to help them better their situation etc.; and by donating our earnings to the Guru. Sikhs are supposed to donate 10% of earnings to the Guru. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheous Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Kill yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Kill yourself. Thats too easy way out ... init 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Also nischala... its good to see you here...its me akaal108... i m sure you will get your answers here... just stay tuned :D 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkingOne Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Serve the true Guru - Guru Granth Sahib by following the Hukam i.e. teachings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheena Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 You Serve the Guru in 3 Ways, ith the Mind, Body, and your Earnings or wealth. Mind meaning, Simran, Dhyaan, Devotion, Love, Surrender. Body meaning doing physical labor, such as making Langar, doing chores and so forth. The third seva of Wealth which was clarified by the 10th Nanak dev known as Daswund. 10th of your earning should be given as Seva. Note that does not mean only giving to a Gurudwara, it means seva, help those who are in need. It is known that Guru Nanaks Dev jis Gholak is in the bowl of the Poor...not necessarily in the Gholak of the Gurudwara. So in all there are 3 ways of doing Seva for the Guru, Tun(body) Mun(mind) Dhun(wealth) Now about meditating on the Guru. The True Guru is no other than Waheguru himself. You meditating on Guru Nanak dev ji is no different than meditating on God. For Guru Nanak dev ji is the Sargun roop of the Nargun Divinity. "Sargun vee O-hee, Nirgun vee O-hee" Meditate on God/True Guru. The Guru is the one who points in the direction of the Beloved. Don't grab ahold of the Arrow, but look towards the direction to which the arrow is pointing. Hope that gives you something to work with.... Waheguru. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Maanaya Liyaaie Guru Nauo Manaya Liyaaie Tun(body) Mun(mind) Dhun(wealth) Da Kaie ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samosasingh Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 This reminds me of a Dharna that Baba Isher Singh of Rara Saab used to sing: "Naam Jap Ke taa door hondai Dukrai, Seva kar kai Maan Paeedaa" But meditating on the lords name the sorrows have left, by doind selfless service we gather the true honour!!!!!!!! Pheena has hit it right on. Good post!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyDudesWassup Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Meditation and worshipping the formless Lord http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/discussion....FA?OpenDocument 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheous Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 i still reckon you should kill yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 i still reckon you should kill yourself. Can you please clarify why would you suggest something like this to someone???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hari Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Harpreet means kill your false self.Something which is pretty hard to do and understand.I still don't get it.Nevermind.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheous Posted October 31, 2004 Report Share Posted October 31, 2004 the student asks ; Kiv sachi-aaraa ho-i-ai kiv koorhai tutai paal ? answer hukum rajaaee chalna nanak likhia naal So killing yourself would be a good idea ? Yes? Harpo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheena Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Death of Self can only happen when there is a substitute to take its place.........................Love is that Substitute. Love will cause the Death, it is not up to us to kill ourselves, but for us to surrender and let Love kill us. " Reason is powerless in the expression of Love. Love alone is capable of revealing the truth of Love and being a Lover. The way of our prophets is the way of Truth. If you want to live, die in Love; die in Love if you want to remain alive. -rumi- " 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaapaaraa Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Sri Guru Granth Sahib talks a lot about meditating on the True Guru and serving the True Guru. What does this mean? What exactly are we supposed to meditate upon? How can we serve the Guru when he is not in human form? Sri Guru Granth Sahib is our True Guru, when Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee says to meditate upon the True Guru, then the Guru is asking us to contemplate/meditate upon the words/Gurbani. For example, while reading Sukhmani Sahib dont rush to read the whole thing, but absorb it within you, contemplate the words and meditate on those lines. By doing this we submit to the Guru, and by submitting to the Guru we serve the Guru and thus we kill our egos. You can download all the banis at this site. http://www.gurbanifiles.org/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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