dalli Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Does the "Shiv Saroop" mentioned by the sanatan sikhs refer to Shiv Jee the blue skinned, trisool weilding yogi or does it refer to "Sada Shiv", the always present creator being vaaaaheguru. Shiv or Sada Shiv, that is the question??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakash Singh Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Blue bana and Blue Shivji Maharaaj... interesting thought... lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 singh ji khalsa is not shiv saroop in the fct that it is the roop of shiv ji. Look at what shiv ji means - does it mean a blue demi-god who carries a trident? If so blue shiv ji - blue bana, Shiv ji's trident - Khalsa trident? - Dont think so Shiv is refering to death - The Khalsa is the roop of Kaal. Baba Santa Singh states in his Sarbloh Guru Granth Sahib Katha that Khalsa is the saroop of Akaaal Purakh. Don't limit the khalsa to a demi-god rakash siaa. "Mahadev kau kahat sada shiv, nirankaar ka cheenat neh bhiv." peace out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakash Singh Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 thanks for the reply Veer Jee... i am enlightened. i thought along the lines that when Khalsa was on battle field they resembled Shiv Ji i.e. the Destroyer, sort of gods/demi-gods among men... oh well thanks for the reply anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doaba Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 both u r right 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 When the khalsa is on the battlefield they are the saroop of death or kaal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsingh00 Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 is there any way for me to get the audio of santa singhs vichar on dasam guru di granth and sarbloh granth? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Get Baba Santas Singh Katha from Panjaab - only place I know of 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawrof Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 gurufateh singho, I have 2 katha's by jathedar santa singh in audio, I'll get neo to put it on...(that vahabee). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijaydeep Singh Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Gurfateh There are three initial Sikhs of Akal(refer tin Chele of Japu Ji Sahib). Brahma(First Seva Panthi and Taksali) Vishnu(First Nirmala) Shiv(First Nihung and Udaseen) Das thinks know it is clearifyed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 I see where your coming from bhaaji - but i still think that u r limiting sikhi.. Surely Guru Ka Sikh is above the devtas. Surely those who do pooja of akaal become one with akaal and rise above the devtas. 'jis dehi ko simre dev, so dehi bhaj har ki sev." sukhmani sahib As Guru Arjan Sahib writes even the devtas want to obtain this human form. So if once obtaining this human form we are only limited to doing pooja of devtas, or becoming one with these devtas then whats the point? Guru pyario the devtas themselves are spiritual entities and all these spiritual entitities are in the service of akaal. Becoming one with akaal will mean that all these spiritual entities present themselves and are ready to do seva of that being who is one with akaal. Peace out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijaydeep Singh Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Gurfateh Das agrees to you.You have talked of something of highest exterme but Das was trying to let it be know to dalli Ji as he seems to doubt us.There is nothing great then our God Akal. Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsingh00 Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 edit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 Vijaydeep Singh if you mean 'us' as in 'us sanatan sikhs' i'm sorry to dissapoint you but i cannot claim to be part of this new cult. You cannot add another label to Sikhi - Sanatan Sikhi as a religion doesnt exist, yet it would be correct to say Sikhi is Sanatan. And yet many people have different interpretations of this word. Some interpret the word sanatan as meaning the eternal truth - others are just using this word to stoke up controversy. Peace out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doaba Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 y r my post getting deleted or am i just dreaming this up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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