vijaydeep Singh Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Gurfateh Santokh Singh is OK when he doubts Raagmala but wrong otherwise. Rattan Singh is wrong. asper Kala afghan writer of Vachitar Natak is rss agent. it is witch hunting nothing else.Anyone who does not follow a jatt of Malwa's sttted Bramanical interpetaion of only 100 year or even less if anti Sikh. All other Sikhs of Past were Brahmanical. Das was made fun by one person for his eating meat.Now he is culprit that he also qoute Dasham Granth Sahib Ji. Vijay Dasham Granth De Bare Bolta Eh.Guru Granth de Bare Nahin! well who says that follower of Dasham Granth Ji does not Preach Guru Granth Sahib Ji.Akal is in both. Well even a single question about thier ritual menatilty gives all reply of illogical qoutes that in jail food was served by miralce as his all Sikhs in Past who died of pain in prision of meer M<anu were fools or not Sikhs. Questioning of old Sikhs like Bhai Mani Singh Ji,Santokh Singh ji with DDT coonection is OK but questioning a person and thier follwer for last 100 year or even less is a sin. It is better liono Brother that you have a debate with Kala Afghana Ji. In Akal Takaht when they had debate with your group you left the hall in anger.And it was declared by Akal Takhat it is halal and not meat in general which we do not eat. If you want das can bring a good study conducted by Kala Aghana ji here but Das can cnounter his falsehood regarding DDT and Dasham Granth only.On other issues Das himself is confused! :roll: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Khalsa Fauj Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Post Bhaang Afeem Khila-aye! ... Tria Chariter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 lol - Khalsa Fauj trust you to generalise and make a stupid comment. Well done veer ji! You have excelled yourself - no real justification and no real arguement just a stupid vague comment akaaal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Khalsa Fauj Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 lol - Khalsa Fauj trust you to generalise and make a stupid comment. Well done veer ji! You have excelled yourself - no real justification and no real arguement just a stupid vague comment akaaal I know that comment was stupid and vague. Tria chariter isn't gurbani. 8) :wink: Akal Takht already stated it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lung Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 who cares what anyone of you thinks is gurbani?? you publish anti-brahmin hate propaganda on your website. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU'RE FOOLING, CONMEN?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 liono... did anyone film the talk? or ur "discussion" afterwards? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Khalsa Fauj Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Whose website? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Gurfateh Santokh Singh is OK when he doubts Raagmala but wrong otherwise. Rattan Singh is wrong. asper Kala afghan writer of Vachitar Natak is rss agent. it is witch hunting nothing else.Anyone who does not follow a jatt of Malwa's sttted Bramanical interpetaion of only 100 year or even less if anti Sikh. All other Sikhs of Past were Brahmanical. Das was made fun by one person for his eating meat.Now he is culprit that he also qoute Dasham Granth Sahib Ji. Vijay Dasham Granth De Bare Bolta Eh.Guru Granth de Bare Nahin! well who says that follower of Dasham Granth Ji does not Preach Guru Granth Sahib Ji.Akal is in both. Well even a single question about thier ritual menatilty gives all reply of illogical qoutes that in jail food was served by miralce as his all Sikhs in Past who died of pain in prision of meer M<anu were fools or not Sikhs. Questioning of old Sikhs like Bhai Mani Singh Ji,Santokh Singh ji with DDT coonection is OK but questioning a person and thier follwer for last 100 year or even less is a sin. It is better liono Brother that you have a debate with Kala Afghana Ji. In Akal Takaht when they had debate with your group you left the hall in anger.And it was declared by Akal Takhat it is halal and not meat in general which we do not eat. If you want das can bring a good study conducted by Kala Aghana ji here but Das can cnounter his falsehood regarding DDT and Dasham Granth only.On other issues Das himself is confused! :roll: good post vijaydeep singh ji 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liono Posted May 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 here is some info on Papi kala afghana: http://www.khalsaalliance.org/index.php?pa...x&article=9 http://www.panthkhalsa.org/kala/kala.php he has been ex-communicated : A Warning to the Sikh community about Gurbakhsh Singh Kala-Afghana. (A former high-ranking intelligence officer of the Punjab Police.) The Sikh community outside of India has managed to prosper in a relatively short period of time as a result of devoted service, hard work, meeting multiple challenges internal and external, and enduring in many cases much hardship. It has become a robust, vibrant community and slowly people everywhere are taking note of the values and teachings of the Sikh Gurus. The Sikh heritage and history are replete with the finest examples of personal sacrifice and nobility of spirit. There are people who would change history and undermine the Gurus teachings by spreading false concepts to the congregations and the common public at large. One such person is Gurbakhsh Singh Kala-Afghana. His supporters hail him as an enlightened scholar but nothing could be further from the truth upon examination of his literature. His writings often indicate a cynical disregard for the most cherished of Sikh institutions as the Khande-ke-Pahul Amrit and recitation of Nitnem. He categorically states that any scripture written outside Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not Gurbani. This includes Jaap Sahib, Tav Prasad Savaye and Kabiyo Bach Bentee Chaupai, which he states were not compositions of the Guru. That in itself would make Nitnem obsolete.The same goes for the writings of Bhai Gurdas Ji and Bhai Nand Lal Ji. If these banees are false then what of Khande-ke-Pahul Amrit? Well he proposes that only Japjee Sahib was recited in 1699. Also, the exclusion of the compositions of Guru Gobind Singh by extension would also invalidate Khande-ka-Amrit. This person and his web of supporters have sought to discredit the most renown Sikh luminaries of the Panth, dedicated souls acknowledged for their selfless service, and sacrifice. He also denies the existence of a Sikh mystical life. Kala Afghana’s works are banned for publication by the Akal Takht Sahib. He and his supporters continue to defy that ban. The Akal Takht Sahib is now seriously evaluating his conduct as a Sikh. Out of all this a pattern now emerges. An attempt is being made to rewrite and corrupt Sikh history and undermine the most basic and cherished of Sikh institutions. Sadh-sangat Jio, concerned dedicated Sikhs everywhere, we urge you to educate yourselves as much as you can about the perverse writings of Kala Afghana and also about Sikh history and practice. Using that knowledge, aggressively challenge such as him by writing rebuttals and verbally when he visits your communities. Then when you are done, turn him out. We urge you to voice your complaints to Sri Akal Takht Sahib as this man’s and his supporters’ conducts are unacceptable and unbecoming of a Sikh. Above all, imbibe the teachings of the Gurus and if you have not, work towards one day taking the Khande-ke-Pahul. Thank you for your attention in this matter. The above information was compiled from various sources by the Sevadars of the Khalsa Panth. from: http://www.panthkhalsa.org/kala/kala.php 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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