Five different types of Naam.

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I m sorry in advance for any spelling mistakes and my broken english.

Discourse given by Raj Yogi Sant baba Attar Singh Ji Reru Sahib to Sant baba isher singh ji rara sahib.

source: Babaniya Kahniya book by Sant baba waryam Singh Ji

Five different types of Naam.

1. Naam Da Saroop

2. Naam Da Karan

3 Naam da Abhyaas

4. Naam Di Audhi

5. Naam Da Phaul(Fruit)

1. Naam Saroop :

There are two types of Naam Saroop - Varan Aatmak and Dhun Aatmak.

a. Varan Atamak- To Purify eyes, recite/read it using your eyes

Akhri Naam Akhri Salah || (Panna- 4 )

so example- write Vahiguroo, Satnaam, Ram on paper and read it. This is called Varan Aatmak.

b. Dhun Aatmak- Listen it with your ears. Listen to naam dhuni via ears.

Dhun Meh Dhyan Meh Janiya Gurmukh Akth Kahani || (Panna- 879)

According to Moukh Panth Parkash- Naam Da Vachaak Akhand Tat Budh(Gyan) is discussed.

According to Pantjali, naam is consider as Gyan da Saroop example- cleanse of budhi.

2. Naam Da Karan(Reason) : Fear is consider Naam Da Karan. Fear of jamdoots, hell, 84 lakh reincarnations, fear of coming in womb causing naam to reside in this being.

there are many types of fear just like example- mouse is afraid of cat, cat is afraid of dog, tiger is afraid of hunter with gun..just like that whole world is in fear.

Sagal Saamgri Daraeh Baiepi Binh Dar Karnaiee Haaraa || (Panna - 999)

3. Naam Da Abhayas: First recite with tongue then do simran through breaths(swasa) example- doing simran with coming and going breaths (inhale- Vahi and exhaling- Guru)

Jinna Sas Garas Na Visraie Har Nama Mann Mant ||

Dhan Sie Saiee Nanaka Pooran Soiii Sant ||

(panna- 319)

Jina Saas Garas Na Visraie Sai Pooraie Pardhan || (Panna - 313)

Then automatically naam simran wil start happening via Surati(Dhyaan)..one just needs to do have phurna(thought) in the surat and it will start happening.

Then one will feel like every hair(rom rom) of the body reciting vahiguroo's naam just like tongue. One will hear naam simran dhuni from rom rom

Gurmukh Rom Rom Har Dhaavaaye || (Panna- 941)

4. Naam Di Audhi- In this state one will feel that every milli inch of his creation is reciting Vahiguroo's Naam.

Animals, Birds, Earth, Sky including 5 elements of body reciting his Vahiguroo's Naam.

Farida Houu Balhari Tin Pankhiya Jungal Jinna Vas ||

Kakarh Chughan Thal Vasan Rab Na Chhudan Pass || (Panna- 1383)

Dhart Patal Akaas Hai Meri Jindaree

Sabh Har Har Naam Dhaavaye Ram ||

5. Naam Da Phaul(Fruit) - One who meditates on Naam becomes his(Naami) roop.

Har Har Jan Duii ek hai Bib Bichaar Kuch Nahi || (Panna- 273)

This is the last stage of prema bhagti marg/shabad surat marg. Bhagti starts from two- sikh and Guru, Ishvar and Bhagat and ends with only one.

Gur Chelee Ki Sandh Milaei

After this discourse..baba attar singh ji further clarified/clear on common doubt people had.

Some people wonder - is there any other need for different mantar from mahapursh once amrit given by panj pyares and Naam Mantra is given by them ?

Answer: In Gurmat, naam amrit is only one

Nanak Amrit Ek Hai Dooja Amrit Nahi ||

Nanak Amrit mannaie Maih Paiyee Gurparsad || (Panna- 1238)

Naam amrit is one. However, way of recitations is different according to state of each person...it should be only given by Mahapursh to Jagaysoo.

Just like in the hospital there are many medications ..pateint does not know which medication to take ...only doctor can recommend specific medication for specific pateint.

Rog Duor Duovaie Bujjaie Ta Vaeed Sujaan || (Panna- 148)

If within panj pyares there is one who is mahapursh and pooran abhayasi who can given jagaasoo discourses according to each state of mind and who can clear doubts(duobta) from jagasoo mind then there is no need for person to go to any other mahapursh to get one on one spiritual(atamik), naam simran discourse.

Although if panj pyares who can only give you maryada ie- keep 5 kakars, not commit certain kuraihits but not any atamik bachans( spiritual discourses) then jaagasuoo needs spiritual guidance(atamik bachans) from a mahapursh.

Note: Regardless if panj pyares have elevated to spiritual level or not. In the hazoori of Guru Maharaj they are Guru Saroop. One should not criticise them ever...Have full faith in them and take amrit from them as if you are taking amrit from Guru Gobind Singh Ji himself.

According to Gursikhi Maryada-

Mahapursh prefers that jagauasoo first takes dasam patsah da amrit before taking any kind of atamik discourse.

Gurmantar and Mool mantar is same given by Panj Pyares...it's same mantar that is been going on as parampara from Guru Maharaj time.

But ways of meditating on them (Karam, Upasana, Gyan) can be only gained by mahapursh/tatveda/tarkali/bhramgyani.

Hence, these doubts are not good that after taking amrit..why people go to mahapursh to get jaugtiya(ways) of doing naam and do atamik bachan billas ?

Everyone can take amrit phsyically in sanskar roop but gurmukh take one step forward do naam kamiya/abhyas via sangat of sant mahapursh.. why?

Reason is only because mahapursh have done naam kaamiya by infusing shabad into surat. That's why you will see mahapursh always reflect on people as sun reflect its ray.

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On ‎4‎/‎21‎/‎2005 at 5:26 AM, Guest said:

I m sorry in advance for any spelling mistakes and my broken english.

Discourse given by Raj Yogi Sant baba Attar Singh Ji Reru Sahib to Sant baba isher singh ji rara sahib.

source: Babaniya Kahniya book by Sant baba waryam Singh Ji

Five different types of Naam.

1. Naam Da Saroop

2. Naam Da Karan

3 Naam da Abhyaas

4. Naam Di Audhi

5. Naam Da Phaul(Fruit)

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What is mentioned in this post is not Gurmatt . Gurbani speaks of only one Naam, there are no verities. For the Sikh Aad Guru Granth sahib ji is the only Guru. The Shabad Guru and Satguru are same. These are ang-sang , always present.

This post should not be here in Sikh Awareness Website.

[ragnarok]

If you could be bothered to actually read the post you'd see that it's about different ways and/or levels of practising naam simran, not about different naams.