WHAT_WE_WANT?_KHALISTAN Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 -I found this poem online...thought u all might enjoy it "This is for my sisters and brothers and for the ones tested by life's struggles You cant consider yourself a sikh If you put food on the table by selling bricks There is more to life than the streets You aren't a man cuz you hold heat We all know, everybody likes nice things But there is more to life than what money brings If your living a life full of misery Get in touch with your people, your history We all know about Indra Gandhi She created the sikh athvadi With operation blue star in charasi She forced the singhs to pick up the A-K senthali Now let me take it back further The Indian continent was under Maharajas rule The way he governed was anything but cruel He never sought retribution only a peaceful solution Our people never wanted to cause harm Just what is rightfully ours...Khalistan Our ancestors never feared death They welcomed it until their last breath Because of that there has been a fire lit inside of me For once I was blind but now I see You just never know- it could be me it could be you But when your time comes- your last word should be Waheguru-" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sag_roti Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 No didn't enjoy it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHAT_WE_WANT?_KHALISTAN Posted October 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 "PHYSICAL DEATH I DO NOT FEAR, DEATH OF THE CONSCIENCE IS A SURE DEATH" -SANT SAPHAI BABA JARNAIL SINGH JI KHALSA BHINDRANWALE 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artistformalyknownasodhi Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 we should jus make a quote section... u rekon u could fill it or would that be the only one u could pull out of the hat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHAT_WE_WANT?_KHALISTAN Posted October 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 No, I got a few more for ya ...Do u like apples? "Inaction is lack of warrior mentality. If you have this warrior mentality then you won't even let someone look at you Guru the wrong way, let alone walk into the Golden Temple with armored vehicles." "Yeah real Nihungs really coo peps. You can chill, drink, smoke and eat meat with them. What better than getting high with the sadh sangat" "‘Bhang’ or ‘Sukhnidhaan’, which is marijuana (cannabis) used by large number of Nihangs nowadays is justified through various means of quoting tales and stories and claiming to be ‘old tradition’s. However, our Guru is eternal and with us forever. Why do we need to refer to stories and justifying traditions by claiming they are ‘old tradition’s passed down, when we have Guru Granth Sahib Ji with us to tell us what is in accordance to Gurmat? Gurbaani clearly condemns the consumption of marijuana." " In UK, there is some educated youth who seem to spend all day on computers with nothing else to do then manipulate things about AKJ. They have nihang thinking. Speaking to Nidaar, he is paranoid of jatha. He believes AKJ is greatest threat to Snaatan Sikhi. He believes Taksal are weak, and no threat, and he hates SGPC. The reason he is paranoid of AKJ is Bhai sahib Randhir Singh Jis book "Chaatka Maas Prathae Gurmat Tat Nirnae". He says this book has done most to stop sikhs eating meat and following Snaatan Sikhi. Well Done Bhai Sahib !!!!!!!!" "Nidar nor Jagdeep do keertan or saanthiya, but slate everyone who does. A lot of youth do Cannabis. I have now heard of one youth who does heroin. I know his family, he started with cannabis and went on to heroin now. He was an Amritdhari youth, who they destroyed. A lot of other youth have drifted away from sikhi. " ਤਿਲੰਗ ਮਹਲਾ 1 ਘਰੁ 2 ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ ਭਉ ਤੇਰਾ ਭਾਂਗ ਖਲੜੀ ਮੇਰਾ ਚੀਤੁ ॥ ਮੈ ਦੇਵਾਨਾ ਭਇਆ ਅਤੀਤੁ ॥ ਕਰ ਕਾਸਾ ਦਰਸਨ ਕੀ ਭੂਖ ॥ ਮੈ ਦਰਿ ਮਾਗਉ ਨੀਤਾ ਨੀਤ ॥1॥ ਤਉ ਦਰਸਨ ਕੀ ਕਰਉ ਸਮਾਇ ॥ ਮੈ ਦਰਿ ਮਾਗਤੁ ਭੀਖਿਆ ਪਾਇ ॥1॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ ਕੇਸਰਿ ਕੁਸਮ ਮਿਰਗਮੈ ਹਰਣਾ ਸਰਬ ਸਰੀਰੀ ਚੜ੍ਣਾ ॥ ਚੰਦਨ ਭਗਤਾ ਜੋਤਿ ਇਨੇਹੀ ਸਰਬੇ ਪਰਮਲੁ ਕਰਣਾ ॥2॥ ਘਿਅ ਪਟ ਭਾਂਡਾ ਕਹੈ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥ ਐਸਾ ਭਗਤੁ ਵਰਨ ਮਹਿ ਹੋਇ ॥ ਤੇਰੈ ਨਾਮਿ ਨਿਵੇ ਰਹੇ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਇ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਤਿਨ ਦਰਿ ਭੀਖਿਆ ਪਾਇ ॥3॥1॥2॥ “Tilang, First Mehl, Second House: One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: The Fear of You, O Lord Vaheguru, is my marijuana (cannabis); my consciousness is the pouch, which holds it. I have become an intoxicated hermit. My hands are my begging bowl; I am so hungry for the Blessed Vision of Your Darshan. I beg at Your Door, day after day. ||1|| I long for the Blessed Vision of Your Darshan. I am a beggar at Your Door - please bless me with Your charity. ||1||Pause|| Saffron, flowers, musk oil and gold embellish the bodies of all. The Lord's devotees are like sandalwood, which imparts its fragrance to everyone. ||2|| No one says that ghee or silk are polluted. Such is the Lord's devotee, no matter what his social status is. Those who bow in reverence to the Naam, the Name of Vaheguru, remain absorbed in Your Love. Nanak begs for charity at their door. ||3||1||2||†(Ang 721, SGGS) ਅਮਲੁ ਗਲੋਲਾ ਕੂੜ ਕਾ ਦਿਤਾ ਦੇਵਣਹਾਰਿ ॥ ਮਤੀ ਮਰਣੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿਆ ਖੁਸੀ ਕੀਤੀ ਦਿਨ ਚਾਰਿ ॥ ਸਚੁ ਮਿਲਿਆ ਤਿਨ ਸੋਫੀਆ ਰਾਖਣ ਕਉ ਦਰਵਾਰੁ ॥1॥ “The Great Giver has given the intoxicating drug of falsehood. The people are intoxicated; they have forgotten death, and they have fun for a few days. Those who do not use intoxicants are true; they dwell in the Court of Vaheguru. ||1||†(Ang 15, SGGS) How do u like them apples? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 LOL Keep em coming! I especially like the smoking and the heroin references. Was that ur mate's bro's girl's husband's niece's binman who told u that?! Bless ur cotton socks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHAT_WE_WANT?_KHALISTAN Posted October 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Mini-Khalistan in Burail Jail Chandigarh By Mahinder Singh ChachraRi These slogans are constantly echoing in Chandigarh’s Burail Jail: “Khalistan Zindabad! “ “Raj Karaega Khalsa!†“Bhindranwala Sant Sipahi Jinay Sutee Kaum Jaigaiee!†(Bhindranwala the Saint Soldier who woke up a sleeping nation). “Bhindranwalay Dee Soach Tay Pehra Diangay Thok Kay!†(We will stand firmly with the ideology of Sant Bhindranwale!). “Jo Singhan Naal Takraigaa, Choor Choor Ho Jaigaa!†(Those who oppose the Singhs will be crushed!). “Na Hindi Na Hindustan, Lai kay RehNaa Khalistan!†(Not Hindi nor Hindustan, we will only rest after taking Khalistan!). It is here that some Singhs associated with the Sikh Struggle have been kept prisoner by the Indian Government and have made a “Mini-Khalistanâ€. The Singhs rule here. From the Beant Assassination trial there are Bhai Balwant Singh Rajoana, Bhai Navjot Singh, Shamsher Singh, Naseer Singh, Gurmeet Singh and Lakhwinder Singh Lakha along with his wife Bibi Baljit Kaur. In total there are 15 prisoners here who have completely exasperated the jail staff and officials. Bhai Sahib Bhai Jagtar Sigh Havara and his companions who escaped from the prison at night on January 22nd, 2004, have also ruined the sleep of the Indian Government. Despite the fact that there are many other Singhs being held in India’s other jails, but the situation in Burail Jail is not like any other. It is the same situation as Bhai Harjinder Singh Jinda and Sukhdev Singh Sukha had created in 1990-91 in Poona Jail, after which they were executed. From 1996 onwards, everyday, the Ardaas for the achievement of Khalistan is heard via the loud speaker, which was the achievement of Bhai Jagtar Singh Hawara, who used legal channels to get permission for this. The Singhs completely control the Gurdwara in the jail. Bhai Jagtar Singh Hawara, who punished the evil Chief Minister Beant Singh, who had inflicted unspeakable atrocities upon the Sikhs, was also about to punish the butcher KPS Gill when an informant had him arrested from the Jalandhar Bus Stand. After severe torture, in 1996, he was imprisoned in Burail Jail. In Burail Jail, all the Singhs pledged to carry forward the struggle for Khalistan under the leadership of Bhai Jagtar Singh Hawara and also made the government machinery accept defeat. It was to such an extent that they refused to go to outside courts and the officials were forced to have the court in the Jail. Bhai Sahib’s demeanor in jail was so warm and friendly that all the staff loved him. The staff members treated him like a family member. On every Sangrand, Bhai Sahib used to make kheer in the Gurdwara and it was so loved by all that even after his escape people still recall it. While Imprisoned, Bhai Jagtar Singh had taken a vow in the presence of Guru Granth Sahib that in whatever circumstances, he would leave the jail and move the Sikh struggle forward. Bhai Sahib is still committed to this goal. After escaping the jail while shouting jaikaray, he has now started a new organization, “Babbar Khalsa Commando Forceâ€. This organization will continue the struggle until Khalistan is achieved. Because of Bhai Sahib’s magnetic personality, some of those people are joining the movement who once were opposed to it. Besides foreign countries he is also receiving support from the Punjab as well. Those Singhs who have spent time with Bhai Hawara say that he is not one of those people who would turn his back on the movement and run away. He himself has attached many of those people to Sikhi and taken many anti-Sikh people and put them on the correct path. Bhai Sahib wants that the next generation of Sikhs, who have been attacked on all sides, should establish a Sikh Media (TV Channel) in which the goal of independence can be openly discussed and they can be liberated. He also desires that a common front, under the leadership of Akal Takhat Sahib be created by all Dharmic Jathebandis to preach in the villages. After doing the Sangat of such a person, the Singhs in Burail Jail have created quite the problem for the Jail officials. In the Singhs’ barracks, discussions on moving the Sikh Struggle forward are done openly. The pictures of Sikh heroes the great martyr of the 20th century, Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, Bhai Amrik Sigh, Gen. Shubegh Singh, Bhai Harjinder Singh Jinda and Bhai Sukhdev Singh Sukh along with Bhai Dilavar Singh, etc are displayed. The Jail officials refuse to take any action and say plainly, “controlling you is something we just can’t do.†And this is not all. All courts in India start with the Indian National Anthem. In Burail Jail, it begins with “Deh Shiva Bar Mohi ihai…â€. The Judge also speaks to the Singhs politely. If he speaks even a little loudly, slogans of “Raj Karaega Khalsa†begin. During the Court being held at Burail Jail, the Singhs in the Beant Assassination case all gather under the Kesri Nishaan Sahib and take an oath to work for the Chardi Kala of the Panth and then respectfully put the Nishaan Sahib in front of the Judge’s desk. The respect of the Nishan Sahib is to such an extent that if it tips over or falls, the court hearing is cancelled and postponed. In Burail Jail, the Singhs’ langar is also not common with other prisoners. All the Singhs prepare their own food. No Jail official can come near to barrack when smoking. Attendance is taken for all prisoners but not the Singhs. All other prisoners receive common utensils but the Singhs have special ones allotted. Every Sangrand, ardaas for Khalistan is done in the jail and all the Jail officials including the Superintendant also take part. All arrangements are made by the jail. What more can be said? The Manual in Burail Jail is just a bit different. Because of the Singhs, instead of the Indian Jail Manual, the “Khalistani Jail Manual†is in effect. All the Singhs being held here are in essence “Jinda Shaheeds†or living martyrs as they have suffered unspeakable torture but are still determined to take the Sikh Struggle forward. Because of their wisdom, bravery and smarts, they have a major influence on the Jail Staff. Where I do ardaas to Akal Purakh to keep these Singhs in Chardi Kala, I also request that the Sikh Nation give them all possible assistance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artistformalyknownasodhi Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 “Bhindranwala Sant Sipahi Jinay Sutee Kaum Jaigaiee!†(Bhindranwala the Saint Soldier who woke up a sleeping nation). yup that tru n then walked em straight to his own and their deaths 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHAT_WE_WANT?_KHALISTAN Posted October 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 "A man who won't die for something is not fit to live" -Martin Luther King Jr. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double_edge Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Just read this and im abit confused... what exactly is your point? and before u hit me with a whole load more quotes, im not arguing here, i genuinely seem to have missed the point.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artistformalyknownasodhi Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 so go on then go n die for the cause, why u (mod-edit) on a web site 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malwe Da Sher Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 LOl nice one sodhi. (Mod-Edit) such as urslef dear sir bring shame to the khalistan movement.stop being a (mod-edit), u have absolutely no clue, you chat random shit- NIHANG SINGHS DO NOT SMOKE - ur posts are worthless. what exactly is ur cause? " you have heard of a youth" but u know his family. If you knew is family you wud of said " I know of a youth." can u provide evidence? can u back up ur claims? Respect to the singhs keeping it real in jail, u seem like an internet freedom fighter - u bring shame to their name and panthic unity. I believe Sant baba jarnail singh bhinderanwale had a brotherly relationship with nihang baba Nihal singh ji ( i think thats his name). Sant Jarnail singh also visited jathedar baba santa singh ji on atleast one occasion. and I have a picture of a few singhs before attack in 84 and there is a farladhari nihang singh present. If u got immortal productions CD1 stick it in ur computer and watch video of sant jarnail singh ji and he will see nihang singhs (atleast one farladhari) present. A friend of mine has cousins who in panjab still live on the run from the police. They await patiently in the jungle for a new jathedar to rise and lead them. Their injuries are so bad that every morning one of them takes opuim simply to bare tha pain of walking - just like singhs did back in the day. Cannibas has many purathan use. look back into ur history. I hate to tell it to you mate but there is some history prior to 1984. "The Nihangs roared The Nihangs moved about the battlefield Martyred are the Nihangs They appear as people intoxicated on cannibas..." ( Bacchitar Narak, Dasam Guru Durbar) How u like them apples (mod-edit)? Keep your language Mature and Civilized, that goes for you 'artistformalyknownasodhi' as well 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHAT_WE_WANT?_KHALISTAN Posted October 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 "(mod-cut) such as urslef dear sir bring shame to the khalistan movement.stop being a (Mod-cut), u have absolutely no clue, you chat random (admin-cut)" I have to admit, that was so eloquently said. With a mouth like that, son, you must be a true GurSikh. "u bring shame to their name and panthic unity" Really....I'm bringing shame to 'their' name and panthic unity? Acha? U (and everyone else) wanna see shame to the Sikh name and Panthic unity, I suggest you check out 2 websites: 1)Sarbloh.com 2)Shastervidiya.org U can cus me out all u want...it's all good, I'm a maha moorakh anyway, I'll admit that. But maybe after havin a look at those 2 sites, u might wanna think about who ELSE u should curse out in the name of Panthic Unity. Jus some food for thought, eh! And to Double_Edge, I'm sorry if you can't figure out the point of this thread...to tell u the truth I can't really see the point myself. It kindda started off as one thing and turned in to something....else. Sorry about that. Hey "Sher' Sahib, according to u....I "have absolutely no clue." OK. Fill me in then, partna. Bhul Chuk Maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Grouphug everyone! (after all, mr whatwewantkhali... does now someone's uncle's friend's nephew's neighbours hairdresser's lover's husband's father's accountant's masseur who used to be in the Akhara and because of it is a heroin addict with Nihang Niddar Singh the main supplier :shock: ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malwe Da Sher Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Yeah man, Nihang Niddar Singh smuggles it in from columbia, my mates cousins uncle knws some guy who bought a dog off some guy whos drycleaner slept with some guy who used 2 be mates with some guy whos wifes friends brother in law knew the columbains who supplied him. what we want, u have not address any of the questions i asked. all i ask for you is to show some evidence of a licensed nihang singh smoking. you made many statements i simply ask for evidence for one. upon looking for this evidence it is likely u will realise why i made that comment. " In UK, there is some educated youth who seem to spend all day on computers with nothing else to do then manipulate things about AKJ. They have nihang thinking. Speaking to Nidaar, he is paranoid of jatha." how about.. In Uk there is some youth who seem to spend all day on computers with nothing else to do than manipulate things about nihang singhs and UK akhara. They have narrow thinking. Speaking to many akjs they are paranoid of Nihang Singhs, as the believe they will convert all anmrithdahri youth into heroin addicts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x_suman_x Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 “Bhindranwala Sant Sipahi Jinay Sutee Kaum Jaigaiee!†(Bhindranwala the Saint Soldier who woke up a sleeping nation). yup that tru n then walked em straight to his own and their deaths bhindranwala was willing to give every drop of his blood for sikhi. to live.... live with honour to die..... die for faith quote from baba jarnail singh bhindranwala he lived with honour and died for his faith he is true sant sipahi which is more than any of us can say for ourselves 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artistformalyknownasodhi Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 that still doesnt make comment to the statement above.... alot of young singhs went to their deaths.... wishing for a khalistan that will never be.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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