drawrof Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I just wanted to say that this topic has been really interesting. I may have read wrong, but I don't think being schizophrenic was in any way discouraged or encouraged but rather a thought on how to overcome lust was brought forth. The question at hand is how to overcome lust, and the answer I saw from Mekhane'ch Jannat is to be so focused on god, that lust is secondary. the desire/lust is an inhibitor because it causes our mind and body to be fully focused on the temporal, but when one has experienced what is greater and is on that path, the desire for the less fulfilling becomes diminished. understanding the depths of our mind, and being honest with ourself will help us understand our shortcomings, proactively looking for truth and cultivating love will bring us closer to akaal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikher Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Put it this, way back in the days of building up to amrit, the biggest thing i used to think was i can't give up lust and other manly vices ! And for months on end I was begging waheguru for amrit but thought lust must be beaten, and as I wanted to go to india to take amrit ! i thought i can't get rid of lust, so i emailed a good singh and he said, "lust will come and go , and is not really important, but whats more important is giving your head to your guru" This to me was like! BANG ! Turn it on and off when you need too but the aim is wahguru sure enough month later..... AKAAAAAAAAAL ! took the step forward for the big "A" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 look u wana control your lust take up yoga - do regular nitnem - and keep good sangat - 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman201285 Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Best thing is cold showers, its hard but it works 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Banda Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 degh, tegh fateh, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueSouluk Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Creasing This thread made me cry laughing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSINGH Posted April 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 i posted this thread a while back and it seems my lust is under control now! obviously i still have a good old glance when a 'hotty' wlaks by but its all gd now. Perhaps regular 'release' is helpin me out! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 waheguru satnaam singh try out yoga and do regular nitnem will sort it out - if not tie a knot in it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHANBABANANAK Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 mahapursh kill their mind... there is nothing then just love for god.... when the simran goes deep with bariag..... the mind goes sukhsham when naam goes deep.... when it dwells (gods name) and you get raas(sweetness) god is happy.... when this happens there is no kaam or no evil in the mind. When this happend 24 hrs then u conquered the 5 evils. I disagree with Mekhane'ch Jannat. I think the way he spoke was perverted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Banda Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 god is happy.. lol wicked usage of words.. and challenge whats with the satnam vaheguru, if he needs to do his hatha yoga then its better then becoming a kaami time bomb with a knot in it .. There are no perversions other then in my own mind DHANBABANANAK, the avasta you are on about, if you any of us were on that path I doubt we would bother coming onto forums..lol be realistic not everyone is at the level of the bhramgiani, learn from the jeevan of sants do not attempt to mimic it.. Init Challenge.. (ban geya... mel gya joh melna si.) thats my humble opinion.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekhane'ch Jannat Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 mahapursh kill their mind... there is nothing then just love for god.... when the simran goes deep with bariag..... the mind goes sukhsham when naam goes deep.... when it dwells (gods name) and you get raas(sweetness) god is happy.... when this happens there is no kaam or no evil in the mind. When this happend 24 hrs then u conquered the 5 evils. I disagree with Mekhane'ch Jannat. I think the way he spoke was perverted. PLease tell me what you disagreed with, maybe i can learn something, i am a sikh so i never stop learning. what did you find perverted in my words, did all this sexual talk disoncert you, could you feel kaam "pricking" you with his arrows. Lets be sensible geezer we are not equally blessed with the grace of akaal purakh, some of us need to pull ourselves out of the muck of sansar by facing up to some distastefulness before we reach the stage of the pure lotus flower emerging from the slime of the world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHANBABANANAK Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 SORRY BRO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Banda Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 lol mekhane'ch after a comment like that i see u been reading the book where ur avatar pic comes from, have u got all three parts? or just the first,. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHANBABANANAK Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Which book is that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekhane'ch Jannat Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 yeah i got all 3 parts, it was an interesting read, it did change the way i thought about things. The biggest idea i took from the book was the subjective-ness of his thought, if that makes any sense. I would be cautious to recommend it to anyone, you definetly have to have an open mind to benefit from it, and some knowledge of tantra would help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekhane'ch Jannat Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 SORRY BRO no need to apologise, if you write something, then try to back it up, or write why you think that. Your view is valid as mine or anyone else's, if you think that what i wrote is perverted, thats fine, but to use such a strong word, you must justify or try to explain why you think that. I think we must self-evaluate, that is why this forum is useful as we can write things we normally would not say, and use reactions from other people to re-assess our thoughts, in this way we can self-evaluate ourselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheena Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 what book 'heaven in mekhane' ji? care to share it with us lost souls . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Banda Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 lol i would agree with makhane the mentioned book isnt for everyone and I would not openly suggest it be read or referenced, as the contents is the type which if not approached and read in the correct manner, you probably end up screwed in the head. I only read it after I had a very strong knowledge of tantra, kundalini, dharma, and a seriously open mind.. by gods grace, I would say I have benefitted from what I realised, but also I would further back up the point that it aint worth reading if you aint got the background. Just gonna screw up your head. for me i found the second and third books the most useful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheena Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 If its about as extreme as Osho gets in his words, then i think i'll be ok...regardless don't worry, i won't blame you for screwing up my mind.. what does the book have in it that warrents such caution? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Banda Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 oooh no no no I could never give the name of the forbidden texts.. !!!! Stay away its like the arkh of the covenant.. p.s. check your pm pheena. its in there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHANBABANANAK Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 "There are some ways through which one can control his sexual desire: 1- Getting married as soon as possible, even with little furniture and humble accommodation. 2- Observing moderation in eating and drinking in order to avoid stimulating one's desire. 3 - socalising with saints so you think like them 4- Keeping away from anything that is sexually stimulating, such as pornographic pictures, erotic films and love songs. 5- Choosing good and righteous friends. 6- Keeping oneself busy in worship and spiritual acts. 7- Interacting with activities of the society in such away that it keeps a person away from thinking about sex. 8- Avoiding gatherings and places that bring men and women physically close to each other. 9- Trying to admire natural things such as flowers and beautiful scenery, which do not stimulate one sexually, instead of admiring girls and women." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSINGH Posted May 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 thats sum good points there with regard to point 1, im still at uni so gettin marrried mite not happen for quite a while! point 2: i dont know any saints at all! point 4: well the internet is a big problem, theres porn all over the place and to easy to access. I may need to cncel my internet in order to stop this because the urge comes now n again to watch sum porn! the above are the only REAL problems i got 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheena Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 thats sum good points there with regard to point 1, im still at uni so gettin marrried mite not happen for quite a while! point 2: i dont know any saints at all! point 4: well the internet is a big problem, theres porn all over the place and to easy to access. I may need to cncel my internet in order to stop this because the urge comes now n again to watch sum porn! the above are the only REAL problems i got When the desire arises, you have then a choice...you always have a choice, it is then that you are on the crossroads. Make the choice that will benefit you in the long run, not the short term. Understand and look ahead on the state of mind that you will be in, the same mind that pull you toward it, is going to be in the state of regret/guilt for doing something it knows it shouldn't have done. What then is the purpose of doing the act in the first place? If you are goign to do it, then do it without Guilt, why feel guilty about something you want to do? The fact that there is Guilt is a sign that there is inner conflict. Pick the right side of the conflict. If you honestly want to control this state without surpression, then i suggest you pray with a honest mind and ask to be protected when you face that state of desire. Prayer is your Guiding light, the 911, use it. Ask first to be guided, to become aware of what you are about to do, then ask that you may recoganize the Hand, the Guiding thought that is going to guide you to the right path out of the desire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 OSingh wrote: " im filled with lust and cant control it! " I hope you're not advertising. This isn't the right website! Just joking! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSINGH Posted May 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 u know wat ppl, i went 2 uni 2day, its a sunny day n all the girls were out! i think im so weak that i cant control this aspect of my life. its come to a point were im thinkin that i should cut of my kesh, cos if i cant even be a 1/2 decent sikh then wats the point? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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