jsb Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 gurfateh saadsangato! ok so this is what i was wondering....is it true that that salok is not baani, and that it's just poetry? and if this is the case, should we really be reciting it after ardaas? gurfateh, waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh khalistan da Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 fateh ji, this is not gurbani & we r not supposed 2 read this after ardas.up2 "kuaar hoye sab milenge bache sharan jo hoye" salok has 2 be read. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted July 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 that's what i thought...thank you! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krsd44 Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 Bhanji's/Bhaji's For the benefit of the not so educated in Sikhi (such as me), could you elaborate a little?? Please? Ive always been trying to figure out whats being said in the Ardass, and understand some of it, but what does it mean entirely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr §ingh Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 Bhanji's/Bhaji's For the benefit of the not so educated in Sikhi (such as me), could you elaborate a little?? Please? Ive always been trying to figure out whats being said in the Ardass, and understand some of it, but what does it mean entirely? After the Adress is Read A Verse is read for Gurbani "Aggeya Bhai Akal Ki Tabi Chalayo Paanth SAaab Sikhan KO hukam hai GUru Manyo Granth.--... and some people read on ti were it sayys : WaheGURU NAAM Jahaj hai,.. but what veer ji asked are we supposed to read that/Is it in baani.. then Mr MR Singh Khalistan da answerd no were only supposed to rea dyup to "kuaar hoye sab milenge bache sharan " thats where that Verse from GUrbani Ends.. I hope i was able to make it a LIL bit clear //BHulla CHUkka Maaf WJKK WJKF! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krsd44 Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 Thanks for the reply Parji I kinda understood that they meant that - I think I worded my question wrongly. 1) has anybody got/direct me to the full translation of the Ardaas... I think I understand most of it, but then as always, I find there are words that I dont understand. 2) ok, so its poetry toward the end, but if its praising Waheguru, is it wrong to say it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 here u go krs veer http://www.sikhe.com/gsdno/articles/perspe...01_ardas_39.htm you may also find this very helpful too http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...topic.php?t=108 fateh ji 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr §ingh Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 2) ok, so its poetry toward the end, but if its praising Waheguru, is it wrong to say it? Weer Ji In SGGS JI'S Hazuri Nothing but Gurbani, Bhai GUrdaas Ji''s Vaar, Bhai Nand Lal Ji's poetyu is aloud to be sung and taht is .in my opinion right, because is there any lack of praises to Wahguru in SGGSG? NOPE i done think so so why read sumthin that has been composed by a "manukh" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krsd44 Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 Thank you Parji/s Thats exactly what I was looking for 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugermach Singh Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 Gurbani, word of the guru?? if so, then that Salok comes in Sarbloh Granth, written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji. hence it is the word of the guru. The same things also appear in Dasam Granth. If we cant read saloks, then why do we have Salok Kabir Jio Shabad... If it appears in the 3 granths, it is Bani. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr §ingh Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Gurbani, word of the guru?? if so, then that Salok comes in Sarbloh Granth, written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji. hence it is the word of the guru. The same things also appear in Dasam Granth. If we cant read saloks, then why do we have Salok Kabir Jio Shabad... If it appears in the 3 granths, it is Bani. THEN it is Bani but i thought that from "WEaheguru Naam Jahaz hai" wasn't included in those granths but I was obviously wrong I'm EXTREMLY SORRY for my mistake //BHULLA CHUKKA MAAF WJKK WJKF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daljit Singh Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 I M NEW ON THIS FORUM, DO U GUYS GOT ANY SPECIFIC FORUM FOR NEWBES????? :roll: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Welcome to the site ji, This is a newbie forum...ask the basic questions...you will find out then.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r k Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 whether it's guru gobind singh jee's banee or not, it's actually been approved by the panth so we are officially allowed to recite it in guru jee's hazoori.. the actual ardaas after "tegh bahadur simriay, ghar nau nidh aavey dhaae, sabh thain hoey sahay" is not banee - the guru khalsa panth made it up. But it was approved by the panth as a whole so whether it's BANEE or not, it's not really "kachee banee" either because it's been approved by the Guru Khalsa Panth and everyone has decided it's okay to read it in Guru Jees hazoori.. bhul chuk maaf karna 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr §ingh Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 whether it's guru gobind singh jee's banee or not, it's actually been approved by the panth so we are officially allowed to recite it in guru jee's hazoori.. the actual ardaas after "tegh bahadur simriay, ghar nau nidh aavey dhaae, sabh thain hoey sahay" is not banee - the guru khalsa panth made it up. But it was approved by the panth as a whole so whether it's BANEE or not, it's not really "kachee banee" either because it's been approved by the Guru Khalsa Panth and everyone has decided it's okay to read it in Guru Jees hazoori.. bhul chuk maaf karna VEERji/BHAINJI I've heard that UP TO "tegh Bahadur SImariay kar nau nid ave dhae...SAaab thai hoy sahei iS Guru Govind Singh Ji's Bani da rest is made up of Paanth .. thats what i've heard from a khathavachik but i can be wrong :s // BHULLA CHUKKA MAAF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daljit Singh Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 VEERji/BHAINJI I've heard that UP TO "tegh Bahadur SImariay kar nau nid ave dhae...SAaab thai hoy sahei iS Guru Govind Singh Ji's Bani da rest is made up of Paanth .. thats what i've heard from a khathavachik but i can be wrong :s // BHULLA CHUKKA MAAF Wjkk Wjkf I think its truth what u said bhaji :!: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r k Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 VEERji/BHAINJI I've heard that UP TO "tegh Bahadur SImariay kar nau nid ave dhae...SAaab thai hoy sahei iS Guru Govind Singh Ji's Bani da rest is made up of Paanth .. thats what i've heard from a khathavachik but i can be wrong :s // BHULLA CHUKKA MAAF veerjee you're right - thats what i was saying 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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