BAZ Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Who and what exactly are the "Paatrey" in the Sikh community? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 you meant to ask bhaatrey i beleive? if yes, they belong to certain caste, not that sikhism beleives in caste system but culturally speaking bhatrey is certain caste. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 There are a few bhaatrey Gurdwarai in the UK, I don't really know much about them except that they serve mass in the Gurdwara, including full English breakfast on Saturdays at one of them I have heard (Nottingham)! There are also some wierd practices like women can't face men, and in langar eat facing the walls, and can't face the kirtani etc (heard form a Bhenji who performed kirtan at the Norfolk Gurdwara a few years ago, and who refused to oblige). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freed Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Gurfateh! Here's a good link about the Bhatra Sangat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhatra does anyone have any more info about the 'Changa' Sri Lanka / Guru Nanak Link ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simrun255 Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 In southampton there is a Bhatra community and i went to skool with a few of them and my mate was telling me about the origins etc, well their caste is acutual fortune telling, just like a jatt might be farming etc and so on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 I think there is definately a vanjaaran connection i.e. their mobile nature, salesmanship, fortune telling etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrikingh Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 yes yes..baz inda house..lol bhatrey..cultural caste 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niranjana Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 They originate from a particular location in Pakistan and have many 'cultural' habits which have influenced their religious lifestyles in common with their then Muslim coreligionists (re: veiling of their womenfolk, language and mannerisms). They are arguably one of the first Sikh settlers in the UK and predominantly Keshadhari. The communities are usually found in select areas and retain a strong feeling of communal 'biradari' amongst themselves. "Tony Singh" ITV Chef of the Year from Edinburgh is an example of the more well known Bhatra Sikh figures in the UK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 There's an academic article written years ago about the Cardiff (or is it Swansea) community. Many set up at docks from the turn of the 20th century like Gravesend also. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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