Jesuit eye witness account of Guru Arjun Dev Ji's shaheedi

[shaheediyan]

Eye witness account of Guru Arjun Dev Ji's shaheedi by a Portugese Christian Priest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aanzjlojS4U

[Guest]

very interesting, thanks for sharing bro

[Guest Javanmard]

Elaaaaa toda essa gente tao contente de ter um Portugues a lhes fazer massagems ao ego...

[drawrof]

I didn't message my ego at all, but it made me scratch my 'tidh' as that was getting a bit itchy...btw, didn't some dude by the name of Fransisco Jose Luis do a translation of the account?

[drawrof]

..and yes it would be amazing if I wrote in english or with 'propa' spelling but I dun need 2, eyemaSANGH!

[Guest Javanmard]

I have translated the passage myself for "Siques, Tigers, and Thieves". : Eyewitness Accounts of the Sikhs 1606-1810 (Hardcover)

by Amandeep Singh Madra (Author). I have also written a few passages of commentary that Paramjit Singh and Amandeep Madra stole from me making it look like they wrote those pages themselves...It's all fine and dandy preserving old heritage but steeling someone else's work is also destruction of living heritage. And people wonder why I no longer interact with this community...at least they had the decency NOT to send me a copy of the book thus confirming that they are low level creatures they are. I mean each time I publish something I get normally sent a copy but not with our snatan like people like.

Anyways...the Jesuist priest on the video did avoid reading some very hurtful passages. So here is the full translation of the text as translated by me so you guys don't need to buy these clowns' book:

“When the Prince came flying from Agra, he passed where a gentile called Guru (Gor), who amongst the gentiles is like the Pope amongst us. He was held as a saint and was as such venerated; because of this reputation of his and because of his high dignity the Prince went to see him, desiring, as it seems, some good prophecy. He gave him the good news of his new reign and gave him a tikka (otria) on his forehead; although this man (the Guru) was a gentile and the Prince, a Moor; to the pontiff it seemed that it would be good to give this symbol peculiar to gentiles, as a sign of success in his undertaking; as the Prince was the son of a gentile woman and because of the prince’s opinion of his saintliness.

The King came to know of this and after having imprisoned the Prince he ordered the said Guru (Gor). Having him imprisoned, some gentiles interceded for their saint: finally they managed to get him sentenced to a hundred thousand cruzados, a petition of a rich gentile who remained his guarantor. This individual took care that either the King (El-Rei) annulled this sentence or the saint have or at least negotiate that money; but in all he got frustrated; and he seized from his poor Pope everything he could find not sparing his clothes nor the clothes of his wife and sons; and seeing that all of this was not enough, as the gentiles don’t have loyalty towards neither Pope or father regarding money, each and every day he gave new torments and gave new affronts to the poor saint. He ordered him to be beaten many times with shoes on his face and forbade him to eat, so that he (the Guru) would give him more money, as he was not willing to believe that he did not have it, but he did not have it nor did he find anyone who would give it to him; and thus amongst many trials, pains and torments given by the very ones who adored him, the poor Guru (Gor) died. The guarantor tried to save himself, but he was imprisoned and killed after they had taken everything they could find.”

I hope you enjoy!

Ya Ali Madad

(Amandeep and Paramjit if you're reading this: admin note: edited :twisted:

[Beetlejuice]

What deeds??

[Guest Javanmard]

Glad you took time to read it.

[chatanga]

if what you say is true javanmard, then those people are egoists. i copy and paste a lot of stuff to use myself, but i would never clam the good works myself just to make people think chatanga actually kows something.

[Guest Javanmard]

Glad you took time to read it.

[Beetlejuice]

Yeah and youre perfect are you?

[Guest Javanmard]

Glad you took time to read it.