Kam1825 Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Balbir Singh you say that there may be a need for the sub guru to act as an intermediate between the sangat and the guru as the present guru does not speak to us???? If the Guru does not speak to you then who have you recieved naam from as you dont believe in the institution of the 5 beloved giving you amrit and naam. You certainly are not an Udasi. Are you from some sore to seprate sect who has roots in Sikhism or just your average troublemaker. you cant just read naam from an ang of guru granth sahib ji and say you have been given naam. someone had to give it to you!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
begum Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Pooran Mahapurukh 101 Brahmgyani Sadguru Balbir Singh Jee Maharaj has a website. Here it is: http://www.saysatsriakal.com/index2.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam1825 Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Cheers for the link Namjap/Begum Balbir is this your website. if it is i like what you put in your little article Sikhs Quote "Five beloved are initiated first as Sikhs Then Guru turns toward them and joins They enliven together the path of truth, where Disciple, Guru, even pictures of God disappear" I thought you didn't believe in the amrit ceremony. Guess that shows you cant be a sikh if you believe it is part of becoming a Sikh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balbir Singh Posted August 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakal! Dear all and Drawrof Jee! Quote "I just read the above, could you qualify this statement with proof. thanks!" Come to know true Simran. All your questions about this will vanish. The other way is to discuss Bhai Gurdas Jee's poems one by one. Please ask the so-called learned people if they want to participate. I have mentioned some differences on different forums already. ************** Quote from Begum Jee "In Guru Nanak’s composition Guru means God or Sabad (Truth) because Guru Nanak had no human guru." May I ask if all the Gurus from Guru Angad Dev Jee up to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee had a Guru person or not? Quote "Furthermore, in the entire AGGS, there is not a single verse that advocates the worship of Guru person as a deity. That the Guru person is a medium for propagation of Truth is explained very clearly by Guru Amar Das to ignorant followers who worshiped the Guru person as a deity." Please explain. What was the behavior of the Gurus toward their Guru as person? I will be thankful. Why did the Gurus not paint or got painted the pictures of the previous Gurus? Also, please always provide a reference from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee when mention the statement of the Gurus. Balbir Singh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
begum Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 I cannot post a picture here but if you want to know how Balbir Singh looks like, come to : http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-s...d-miracles.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balbir Singh Posted August 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakal! Dear all and Kam1825 Jee! Quote "kam is my name you freak and 1825 is my warrant card number as i work in the police." It sounds like it is the Kamraa (room) number 1825. Get ready for some basic questions on Sikhism meanwhile. I am leaving for Holy Days, till then. ************** Thanks Begum. Make me popular. God may decorate you with ornaments and more cosmetics. Balbir Singh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam1825 Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 "kamraa (room) number 1825. " You are an idiot. that quote really makes you seem so clever!!! Did you diciper that with the knowledge you have gained . Take some days away to build up your ego again i am sure you will be back to preach your nonsense to us all. A couple of things though whe you come back you can answer the questions i pose to you about you quoting a sikh is one that takes the amrit initiation like the guru did. but you seem to reject the authority of the panj piyaray. Why are you greater then the guru? What are the faults in the Bhai Gurdas Di Varan? Do you class yourself as a sikh? Are you one of your make believe 'sub gurus'? Also dont worry about the cosmetics for begum as i am sure you will need them to sort out the bruises that your ego has obtained. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 He is banned from the forum based on many complaints from the forum members also his hidden propaganda against bhai gurdas ji varan, and his recent topic which involved sarcasm-of sri guru granth sahib sitting in deep meditation and not be able to fullfil sangat questions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsingh00 Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 "Kam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh and Ahankar are the five thieves in a being. How come those have increased up to 1825? " "It sounds like it is the Kamraa (room) number 1825." In times like this, I believe it is best to quote Javanmard: LOL LOOL LOOOL LOOOOL LOOOOOL LOOOOOOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam1825 Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Cheers Neo the guy was becoming a problem 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbreakable Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chatanga Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Kam , you say the guy was becoming a problem and now he'e gone. But hasnt the problem been shifted to some other place rather than eradicated? chatanga Balbir Singh wolud probably give my name arth as " cha meaning tea " and " tanga - hang it up" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam1825 Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 well i guess you are right Chatanga only that i have made my mind up not to admin cut so . admin cut LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kam1825 Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 unbreakable i am just used to booting people off. Bani Guru Guru Hai Bani is very easy to understand. If one believes in Bani with full faith they will get a glimpse of their guru in the transcendant form as many brahmgianis have done. Many Sadhu Sants have done darshan of the Sargun forms of the Guru and this is through recognising that the gur shabad is bani I think this notion stretches beyond sikhism as i remember Javanmard mentions that the Quran is Ali and Ali is the Quran. In the same way many Sh'ias have gained a glimpse of the Imam Mehdi through the belief that word of god is the Guru. (Apologies Javanmard if i have explained that incorrectly) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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drawrof Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I would interpret that as in 'presence'...where logos/bani would be a way for us to perceive the perceivable element of god, and I would put the visram on gur ban kaia, sevak jan manai, partakh, guru nistarai....which I would then interpret as 'gur's bani says, if the servant accepts this, the guru will reveal himself to the sevak...hence nistaray.....please feel free to lead me correctly thank you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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