Guest Javanmard Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Well said!!!Ya Nanak Shah Faqir!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 "I would side withe Muslims than Hindus anyday ,I would never side with e gangu brahmin -Hindu,Muslims in Pakistan take care of Sikh Gurdwaras,not like in Hindustan where they get bombed. Lahore Pakistan is the birthplace of Sikhism,a place where right now Muslims are taking care of our Gurdwaras,don't forget peer budhu shah,and other Muslims helped Sikhs more than any Hindus ever did,In Maharajah Ranjit Singhs got ministers were Muslims,generals were Muslims,but who messed it up ,THE HINDUS,the dogras, makes me sick how Sikhs have blind hate for Muslims and blind love for the Hindus who oppress them" Veera, your right to say that many Sikhs do tend to have ignorent and stereotypical hate for Muslims, but many also have the same blind hate for Hindus - such as yourself. Neither is right, as I keep banging on, jugde a person and not a nation. People seem to learn nothing from Gurbani. Pakistans seva is not that great - aside from a few tourist-money spinning Gurdwarai i.e. Nankana Sahib, many other "hundreds" of Gurdwarai have been looted, demolished, turned into cow shelters where animals do their jungle-pani, land stolen etc.. I know someone who actually went and saw Gurdwarai away from the tourist trail ( around 5 years ago), it broke his heart. Pakistani see Sikh shrines as $ only, nothing else (I'm talking of the majority and the Government - not all people). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Great post shaheediyan veer Pakistani see Sikh shrines as $ only, nothing else (I'm talking of the majority and the Government - not all people). on that note, before partition, nankana sahib had soo much land that you could build two towns out of that land, all that is been taken over by soo called muslim fanatics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 I wonder what excuses Javanmard will pull out now.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 What do I have to do with Pakistan Beettlejuice? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikhyouth84 Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Great post shaheediyan veer on that note, before partition, nankana sahib had soo much land that you could build two towns out of that land, all that is been taken over by soo called muslim fanatics. That is incorrect THE WORLDS BIGGEST YES BIGGEST UNIVERSITY IS GOING TO BE BUILT OVER THERE,I MYSELF HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Baba_Nanak_University 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singho Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 What did you do, sign a petition? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 It's not incorrect, do some homework and speak to some people who have actually seen more than 5 gurdwarai in Pakistan. They will be giving 2500 acres of land, how generous, the sam eland they looted inteh 1st place. Nanakana Sahib used to have so much land, that when standing at the gurdwara, all that the naked eye could see in every direction was the Gurdwara land. My mother visited there over 10 years ago, yes there are some nice Pakistani who do seva, but most are extremely poor particularly in the Nanakana sahib vicinty, we'll see what happens to them once the "commercialisation of this once beautiful Gurdwara in calm and natural surroundings goes ahead. The Uni will be independent and international, who do you think is gong to pay for it? And who do you think is going to benefit from it?? Turning an ancient site into a high earning tourist city means nothing. In case you didn't know, there is also going to be huge housing projects and huge shopping malls for the "Sikh" tourists, run for the benefit of our Pakistani brothers. Show me that the other 200+ shrines in Pakistan are being preserved then may be I will take your Pakistan love affair seriously. Also try and take note of the regular violent fanatical Gurdwara and Gurdwara land grabbing stories from Pakistani news. Somehting which the Government watch and do nothing about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Francisco, you always seem to claim that or atleast appear to claim that all Muslims are angels....be they Pakistani or not...for this very reason I posted..what bullshit will you come up with now......... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Another thing Francisco, you ALWAYS paint a lovely picture where the Shias love Guru Nanak and believe in him as a Pir etc etc..where the damn proof? You always paint your bull but NEVER provide evidence...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Another thing....certain sources have clarified that this so called scholar..admin cut...is trying to convert people....he does so, by using the Satgurus as a tool....admin cut 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Well I am not going to stoop down to your level. It is seems the moderators find it ok to have this beetlejuice abuse people on this forum. Fair enough. I get the message. No Beetlejuice I am not trying to convert people. If you read my posts carefully you'd know but maybe you have a problem with your reading skills. Khoda Hafez. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matheen Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Beetlejuice - the questions you ask have been asked before again and again. Use the search facility. Please keep private battles private - i (and i'm sure many others) don't come on here for this admin-cut. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam1825 Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 please settle you differences with an old fashioned shoot out or something. All i can say is that Javanmard is putting his side of Sikhi across to the public and is free to do so. So his Sikhi has an islamic influence. I dont care. I see it as no different to the type of Sikhi that Niddar Singh and the Sanatan Sikhs put across to the public. It is just Sikhi influenced by Hinduism. Sikhi is as many people have pointed out a broad and diverse faith. Ones views will differ from that of another. One should stop this bickering and understand that no matter what one learns the whole point is to meditate in this lifetime and become one with the Lord through love and devotion. If that be you take Sikhi with a slant of Hinduism or Islam. Now i can stop sounding like a parent and get back to watching the Smallville!!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Dont read it then Matheen......!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Javanmard....Source X..has heard you say to them that you ARE trying to convert people.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam1825 Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 please disclose who source X is??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Ok guys. I blocked beetlejuice from my msn for being rude to me. Since this freak does nothing but stalking me. There is a very easy solution to this problem: ban the freak! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 No Beetlejuice I don't want to make you Shi'a: 1. You have your sanatan Sikh tradition which is fine 2. Shi'ism is more an intellectual faith, really wouldn't suit you 3. Shi'ism is too classy for you. You wouldn't feel at easy with educated people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 javanmard circumcised me..... he is so evil man!!!! buu wuuuu 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 muaahahahahahaha 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirpa_karo Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 baba akhe hajeeeaa - subh amlaa bajho dono roeeeee! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Again your putting Shia'ism on a higher level to Sikhi..you always paint a picture of them being the same....what you mean Shia'ism is too classy for me? Sikhi is a very intellectual and intelligent, path... What excuses will you make for the following verse: Hindu Anha Turku Kana..Doha Vicho Giani Siana... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 I am not Turkish so I don't see the point of your line... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Turku....is another term for Muslim..is it not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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