Guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 [center:3acc66836b] If you haven’t read REAL history of India then you are missing something good. You can check out North India's factual history website which covers from Maharaja Ranjit Singh to Partition of Punjab. Loads of information will be added on day by day basis. Check out www.SikhChronicle.com[/center:3acc66836b] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrikingh Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 great 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singho Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Yeah great. We know the history on the website is 'true' because it says so at the top. "The first step in liquidating a people is to erase its memory. Destroy its books, its culture, its history, Then have somebody write new books, manufacture a new culture, invent a new history." Books - who needs them eh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matheen Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Yeah great. We know the history on the website is 'true' because it says so at the top. lol...you're not implying...... btw, are people in Punjab today with the surname Dogra related to the traitors? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 i would think they are of the same caste. dogra is a caste, not a gotra. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matheen Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 i would think they are of the same caste. dogra is a caste, not a gotra. Explains why there are muslim, hindu and sikhs with that name. thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singho Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 When will Sikhs learn?? They're only allowed to join the British side when the Jatts do it first!! Not before the Jatts!! Damn traitors! Someone should do a YouTube 'best of' video on Dogra traitors and their sneaky Brahmin Fu Manchu friends. And tell the Prince Charlie and the PM to BAN Dogras from UK!!! LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singho Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 "After prolonged efforts by Sikhs ... finally [the British East India Company] was able to consolidate the gains made by earlier sardars." NB: above is 'true' history version 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singho Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 "in return wife of Dost Mohammad Khan gave him Kohinoor Diamond, the largest know diamond in world (now it is part of UK's Queen's treasury)." NB: no pressure was involved, it was a free gift LOL. "The maharaja established a secular state in which all the subjects, Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs were treated alike." Yeah sikhraj LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawrof Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 To be honest, this is biased. I am not as cynical but this is punjab's history more than india's. Singho, the phulkian sardars joined the british in 1808, prior to the dogras...the phulkian sardars were jatt. This has less to do with caste and more to do with basic economics from my understanding. Look at the story of dial singh majithia, he was born after maharaja ranjit singh died and he went abroad to go learn, discarded kesh, started smoking and came back and joined the brahmo samaj (mainly because his dealings in his work was with bengalis)...It was these examples that prompted khem singh bedi (a khatri, as we all know) to re-invigorate the sikh masses and go on mass prachars. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singho Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 I am only jokin drawrof.. but history is always a political plaything (although I don't have any kind of political agenda - only amusement). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 That website is a pure joke. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 That website is a pure joke. As drawrof stated his opnion regarding issues with this website, could you also shed some light on why you think that website is a joke? thanks in advance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawrof Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 This website is serious and is not condusive to jokes.... (just joking), but seriously another fact that I have not come across apart from supposed notes made by sardar kapoor singh is that of bhagat singh wanting to be amritdhari. A museum in delhi has his final writings. I held them in my hand as bhagat singh's writings fell into the hands of his brothers...and whilst in delhi, I had a chance to read through the comments. There was nothing written about bhai randhir singh, there was nothing written about sikhi. All I saw were leninist ideals and land division schemes. These were dated before he died. I also know from trends that most people need someone to copy and if you're elder brother was a freedom fighter, you're going to copy him so that you can personify him and get some of the perks.....well no one in the family became keshdhari....they all died bald!.......if becoming amritdhari had that much of an impact, surely his brothers would have followed suit. This is my opinion based on my own collected facts and experiences...many first hand 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 drawof just illustrated why it's a joke. That website is just pure propaganda. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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