SinghMunda

On 2/4/2022 at 12:44 AM, SunnySingh said:

 

Bro Premi Jee,

it is obvious that this type of behaviour is shameful, which I will never support.

But Bhangra is not to be blamed.  

For example, we have a knife, now you can use it in a positive manner to cut vegetables for cooking, or, you can use it in evil way to kill someone,  so to say knife is bad and the use of it should be banned, would not make sense, isn´t it?

 

To do justice to Bhangra in the right perspective, let us first see what is the definition of Bhangra,  and how , and where  did it appear.

Bhaṅgṛā (Punjabi: ਭੰਗੜਾ/بھنگڑا) IPA: [ˈpə̀ŋɡɽaː] (listen)) is a type of traditional folk dance of the Indian subcontinent, originating in the Majha area of Punjab.[ 

It is done in the season of harvesting, and bhangra is especially associated with the vernal Vaisakhi festival.

In a typical performance, several dancers execute vigorous kicks, leaps, and bends of the body—often with upraised, thrusting arm or shoulder movements—to the accompaniment of short songs called boliyan and, most significantly, to the beat of a dhol (double-headed drum).

Struck with a heavy beater on one end and with a lighter stick on the other, the dhol imbues the music with a syncopated (accents on the weak beats), swinging rhythmic character that has generally remained the hallmark of bhangra music.

An energetic Punjabi dance, bhangra originated with Punjab farmers as a cultural and communal celebration.

Its modern-day evolution has allowed bhangra to retain its traditional Indian roots, while broadening its reach to include integration into popular music and DJing, group-based competitions, and even exercise,  and dance programs in schools and studios.

 

One may bring forward negative views of Bhangra which I do not deny, but also following are some  videos to show the posiitive sides of this dance style, and at the core are truly acceptable for which Bhangra was born: to be joyful  on cultural and communal celebrations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As seen in the 4 videos above, the Bhangra is performed by almost all ages, childish, young, adult and older generation.

It is just just fun and adorable to watch people doing it, with the ingredients of : respect, dignity, no obscenity, no touching others(in case women are present),  no alcoholic drinking, healthy exercising ....and whatever positivity one may find in it.

Bro, tell me sincerely, is it anything wrong that you find in the examples of the videos above?

Is it because some fools deginerate our  traditions with their nasty behavoiur, for which such valuable traditions should be banned and the rest majority of our kaum should feel ashamed for it?

I sincerely think, before judging anybody or anything, all views should be kept in front of one, and without siding anybody, we should give our right opinion, and not be so severe on ourselves, we are sikhs, howsoever different and distinctive, but never ever less than anybody nor to feel ashamed of our traditions.

 

To add something more positive, just see the following positive comments from people around the world who are mostly not sikhs, and see the sincerity and admiration in their feelings for Bhangra after watching this dance style.

*Punjabis, embrace your beautiful culture! Be proud to have such colorful dance!!

*Love your bhangra guys and the positive vibes and great energy it is spreading️️ Keep doing this guys I am obsessed with your Bhangra....Well Done

*Excelent work guys this is awesome workout ">

*Full of energy, marvellous, not a single beat missed

*So Beautiful and awesome performance amazing bhangra god bless you every one

*I'm enjoying the energy Where can I get admission I would like to lean how to dance like you guys

*No words ,commendable dance

*Dil khush kr ditta had goosebumbs when i saw it mst video bhai ">

*This Dance is Appsluetly Amazing......

 

And many more such comments can be found on the net where people express their joy and admiration for Bhangra...

This is the real pure Bhangra, rest is an adulteration of the original, that is why that is ugly and shameful, but the original is pure and healthy.

 

Sunnysingh ji, do you think now is a good time for Sikhs to be clinging to and associating with this bhangra culture that has made them the subject of widespread mithe in India, as well as internationally ? I agree that dancing is a good form of exercise and many Panjabis really need exercise big time! They could alternatively do martial arts or Gatka also

But, maybe keep it on the low-down  at home rather than publicising it too much ?  Let the monay and non-Sikhs promote it. These 'Sardaars' are making Punjabis confused that this is part of 'Sikh' culture. And we should not bother about what other think, even if they are commenting positively. 

The last video is embarrassing. I think part of our Gurus wanting a Khalsa identity including wearing Dastaar is to make us think twice about how we look when doing such things, and it does not suit the old man here. 

On 2/4/2022 at 2:49 PM, dalsingh101 said:

And 99% stem from Panjabi 'culture'.

 

Genetic low IQ special needs brain maybe? That's why jut boys from even really wealthy backgrounds only have the dream of coming to england and being a builder. Too stupid to use their families wealth to educate themselves? Probably wasting the money on bullets and moosewala cds.....lol

Hardly. 

Panjabi culture just like many other cultures has its positives and negatives. 

I have a 'really wealthy' cousin who is of a jutt background and he and his brother never had any dream of coming to England to become a builder. The cousin came here to study (so it would look good on his CV when he would eventually return to India, also he proved that they are not "Too stupid to use their families wealth to educate themselves") but decided he had no need to stay here like some of his friends did.

You are lumping all villagers as jutts. Those who can afford it will find a way to leave to go abroad for better opportunities. There are plenty of chamaars here in the UK also doing laboring jobs. Same in other parts of Europe. 

Why are you yourself, working on building sites? You've mentioned before you were a teacher? I don't know anyone who is 'educated' who would chose to do a laboring job long term. 

Does anyone know of another link for this video?

Also, I would like to ask what is the purpose of covering the head when one is eating/drinking and going to the toilet? I think I may have heard one time that this is to prevent splashing of dirty water/waste and or food from the head.

I know that this topic was posted 7 years ago, so it's not surprising that the links no longer work. Can anyone post new links?

Thank you

The beginning had transliteration of Panjabi into English, but not the later part. Could you please add it Veer ji?

Thank you

Excellent. Thank you.

This is excellent! Thank you

Why not split sleep between waking up at Amritvela and doing Paath. For example 4 hours sleep before waking, and then 2-3 hours of sleep again (if that fits in with going to work/school early).

"It is home to a substantial community of Sikhs, the city’s most troublesome minority. Not only are Sikhs responsible for a very disproportionate share of crime, but they are culturally incompatible with white Canadians and flex their political muscle in ways that harm white interests. Canada’s Sikhs also have a history of vicious terrorism"

This is ridiculous. There is no way they would be able to get away with writing this sort of rubbish in a national newspaper.

karmjeet,

SMS above asked:

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Please could you expand on this point, what exactly does "Increasing your Personality" mean? What is one's "tej" or "parkash"?

This is rather unclear... "

That was back in 2004, it is now 2008, please could you shed some light on the matter?

I would think "Increasing your personality" means it makes you a stronger personality in your general dealings and with other people. People would respect you more perhaps too.

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This is really good!

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Thank you

Does anyone know of any Shabad I could do?

She wasn't being very open about being Jewish when she was in the Mosque giving a speech. She also said the BNP would like to "drop you from planes into the sea" (or words to that effect) when addressing people in the Mosque (or was it the African people in the Church?).

It isn't just the perceived economic issue (jobs, being given priority for housing) of immigrants changing what was once a completely white area, but a lot of politically correct people out there ignore the language and cultural issues.

Would our relatives or forefathers in Panjab be happy if the pinds were swamped with immigrants who have arrived from completely different cultures, speaking their native languages etc? I doubt it.

I think immigration ideally should be very gradual over a long period of time for it to work well, otherwise the balance of things changes too soon which makes people feel uneasy.

I think probably like most of the World youth in Pakistan are turning at least a bit away from religion, but I get the impression it is on the whole not changing as much as other countries, like richer Arabic countries.

There are no figures in this article on number of conversions. When going in and out of Central London I don't see that many white women wearing headscarves etc. The Daily Mail is a very right-wing newspaper which likes to sensationalise such issues, so I wouldn't take too much notice of what they are saying.

I know that this is an old topic but I have become increasingly annoyed with my sleep recently. There are three aspects of my sleep that I want to address:

1)I find it generally difficult to get to sleep (definitely more than everyone I know).

2)I sleep very deep so I find it difficult to get out of bed (in other words, I'm lazy!)

3)I want to cut down the amount of sleep I need to feel refreshed (currently 7 hours)

I know that there are a lot of lifestyle approaches, e.g. sleep hygiene rules, waking up at same time everyday, doing exercise, avoiding reading etc in bed, but I'm aware of those things already.

Can anyone suggest a Bani/Shabad that I can do to help me with these sleep issues?

Many thanks!

Which branches???

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Simply, I would like to know what are the meanings of the Gurus' names if anyone can share this knowledge, as I think it is important to know what the names of such important beings mean. I can only think immediately that 'Ram Das' means 'slave of God' but I'm stuck on the others