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  1. I personally do not eat any kind of meat or eggs..

    . ਕਬੀਰ ਭਾਂਗ ਮਾਛੁਲੀ ਸੁਰਾ ਪਾਨਿ ਜੋ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਖਾਂਹਿ ॥

    Kabeer Bhang Mashhulee Sura Pan Jo Jo Pranee Khanhi ||

    कबीर भांग माछुली सुरा पानि जो जो प्रानी खांहि ॥

    Kabeer, those mortals who consume marijuana, fish and wine

    1 ਅਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਕੀਰਤਨ ਗੁਟਕਾ: ਪੰਨਾ ੬੫੭ ਪੰ. ੧

    Salok Bhagat Kabir Page:657 Line: 1

    ਤੀਰਥ ਬਰਤ ਨੇਮ ਕੀਏ ਤੇ ਸਭੈ ਰਸਾਤਲਿ ਜਾਂਹਿ ॥੨੩੩॥

    Theerathh Barath Naem Keeeae Thae Sabhai Rasathal Janhi ||233||

    तीरथ बरत नेम कीए ते सभै रसातलि जांहि ॥२३३॥

    - no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all go to hell. ||233||

    But that doesn't mean I look down upon Sikhs who do.... I think its fine as long as they eat the meat according to Maryada... (Jhatka)

    I do NOT agree with those that go to McDonalds and consume hamburgers and stuff like that.

    But going back to the subject at hand....

    The above posters bring up a very important point. If it wasn't against Maryada for woman to be Panj Pyare then why didn't the remaining 2 Wives of Guru Ji Take part?

    To be clear the above about meat and eggs is my personal opinion not asking anyone to follow me... :)

  2. I personally do not eat any kind of meat or eggs..

    . ਕਬੀਰ ਭਾਂਗ ਮਾਛੁਲੀ ਸੁਰਾ ਪਾਨਿ ਜੋ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਖਾਂਹਿ ॥

    Kabeer Bhang Mashhulee Sura Pan Jo Jo Pranee Khanhi ||

    कबीर भांग माछुली सुरा पानि जो जो प्रानी खांहि ॥

    Kabeer, those mortals who consume marijuana, fish and wine

    1 ਅਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਕੀਰਤਨ ਗੁਟਕਾ: ਪੰਨਾ ੬੫੭ ਪੰ. ੧
    Salok Bhagat Kabir Page:657 Line: 1

    ਤੀਰਥ ਬਰਤ ਨੇਮ ਕੀਏ ਤੇ ਸਭੈ ਰਸਾਤਲਿ ਜਾਂਹਿ ॥੨੩੩॥

    Theerathh Barath Naem Keeeae Thae Sabhai Rasathal Janhi ||233||

    तीरथ बरत नेम कीए ते सभै रसातलि जांहि ॥२३३॥

    - no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all go to hell. ||233||

    But that doesn't mean I look down upon Sikhs who do.... I think its fine as long as they eat the meat according to Maryada... (Jhatka)

    I do NOT agree with those that go to McDonalds and consume hamburgers and stuff like that.

    But going back to the subject at hand....

    The above posters bring up a very important point. If it wasn't against Maryada for woman to be Panj Pyare then why didn't the remaining 2 Wives of Guru Ji Take part?

  3. Satkiran Ji this is becoming insane there are bad people who defame all jathas but to suggest that just because of your bad experiences with DDT Brahmgyani Sant Baba Deep Singh Ji who fought off the enemy and defied death is sexist is taking it too far. Women can participate in all the things you listed. Sant Ji made this clear... Honestly I think you are trying to attack DDT over an issue which is. Not man vs woman because of past experiences.

    I'm curious what do you think of Sant kartar Singh Ji Sant gurbachan Singh Ji and Sant jarnail Singh Ji?

  4. Das Ji,

    Its not that I want to -believe- it's that I -know- it to be true... from much research on the subject on my own, the evidence in the support of Guru Gobind Singh JI's 52 Hukams (with no mention of any such restrictions on women), and the fact that SRM states both male or female can be Panj Pyare. The only argument I see against is that there were none in the original five... as if the original five must be emulated exactly. But nobody knows if Guru Ji intended the original five to be emulated exactly??? And if that were the case, why is it not mentioned in the 52 Hukams?? There seems to be a lot of 'because they aren't' with no hard evidence to back it up... and Sants are human and still have opinion - you can't use the opinion of a human as 'proof'. I mean hard evidence... if it was so important to exclude women, then Guru Ji WOULD have certainly written it down, since he thought it necessary to write down 52 other hukams??

    Not at all... because cutting hair is already established as one of the 4 main cardinal sins... therefore no they can not cut hair. But they believe that the keski is the 5th kakkar and not the kesh (for the above reason, its already established that we can not cut it), and the other kakkars are external gifts from the guru where kesh is part of the body already. At least that's how it was explained to me about AKJ and their belief about keski.

    Yes, we have to agree to disagree... I realized that this forum is majority DDT and will always see women as below them. I am free however to follow SRM and the majority of the panth - I already stated I am not following any jatha - including AKJ.

    Gurfateh...

    I find it offensive that you say that all of DDT is sexist. You honestly feel that Jathadar of DDT Baba Deep Singh JI saw woman below men?

    Btw waiting for the audio or video of the sexist DDT leader... Action needs to be taken against him.

  5. Saint Hi made it pretty clear... Lol I dunno why there is a debate I can't see how any Sikh can try to disagree with a brahmgyani... If rehit says no woman in Panj Pyare then there shouldn't be an argument.. Guru Ji decided who are we to go against... Also the reason I find Gurmat Rehit Maryada accurate over SRM is because AKJ and SGPC composers of SRM are man made while the taksaal is started from Guru Ji. With the first Jathedar Baba Deep Singh... This is a situation of man vs woman as Sant JI Explained....

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