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  1. Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

    Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

    You wrote "Isn't what you are saying NOW what I had said earlier....."

    No. You wrote earlier "The true Khalsa spends time learning Shastar and Shaastar vidiya (art of warfare and learning texts)." But you did not provide one reference from the reverend Gurus doing the same. Why?

    You also wrote "If Gurdev says that repeating the word 'Vahiguri' in 1430 angs, one can reach enlightenment and receive spiritual wisdom, is Gurdev then a Sick Preacher?"

    From where you have learned such misleading explanations. The true Gurus never said like that.

    You also wrote "why not spend time in doing paath and vichaar of Gurbani by yourself and spend time in Naam Simran to truly experience the greatness of Akaal."

    Please listen. Gurdev is singing about doing Paath.

    ਹਰਿ ਨਿਰਮਲੁ ਅਤਿ ਊਜਲਾ ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਪਾਇਆ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥

    हरि निरमलु अति ऊजला बिनु गुर पाइआ न जाइ ॥

    Hari nirmalu ati oojlaa binu gur paaiaa na jaai.

    ਪਾਠੁ ਪੜੈ ਨਾ ਬੂਝਈ ਭੇਖੀ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਇ ॥

    पाठु पड़ै ना बूझई भेखी भरमि भुलाइ ॥

    Paathu paRai naa boojhaee bhekhi bharami bhulaai. SGGS Ang 66

    Vichaar of Gurbaanee is also not possible without resolving (boojhe), the true Sabad. All Paaths go empty.

    Guru Arjan dev Jee is singing truth. Please ponder.

    ਪੜ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ਪੜ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ਪੰਡਿਤ ਕਰਹਿ ਬੀਚਾਰ ॥

    पड़्हि पड़्हि पंडित करहि बीचार ॥

    PaRhi paRhi pandit karahi beechaar.

    ਬਿਨੁ ਬੂਝੇ ਸਭ ਹੋਇ ਖੁਆਰ ॥

    बिनु बूझे सभ होइ खुआर ॥

    Binu boojhe sabh hoi khuaar. SGGS Ang 791

    Balbir Singh

    You also wrote "If Gurdev says that repeating the word 'Vahiguri' in 1430 angs, one can reach enlightenment and receive spiritual wisdom, is Gurdev then a Sick Preacher?"
    
    From where you have learned such misleading explanations. The true Gurus never said like that.
    Then please enlighten all of us by telling what the True Gurus said and how they practised what they preached....
    You also wrote "[b]why not spend time in doing paath and vichaar of Gurbani [/b]by yourself and spend time in Naam Simran to truly experience the greatness of Akaal."
    
    Please listen. Gurdev is singing about doing Paath.

    Am I not saying this either?

  2. Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

    Dear all and Xylitol Jee!

    True Naam Simran frees one from bondages.

    Strange. So many sects have so many chelaas. Rarely someone's mind is ready to experience the Gur.

    Please listen. Gurdev is referring Bhagat Naamdev Jee's words.

    ਗੁਰ ਚੇਲੇ ਹੈ ਮਨੁ ਮਾਨਿਆ ॥

    गुर चेले है मनु मानिआ ॥

    Gur chele hai man maaniaa.

    ਜਨ ਨਾਮੈ ਤਤੁ ਪਛਾਨਿਆ ॥੩॥੩॥

    जन नामै ततु पछानिआ ॥३॥३॥

    Jan naamai tat pachhaaniaa. ||3||3|| SGGS Ang 657

    *****

    Dear Cybersingh Jee!

    Many times the message is delivered. Please come to know Naam Simran. Did you ever visit a true Saadh?

    True Simran is not informing people about it through a microphone. Naam Simran is only possible through true Gur. So is Prabhu's Creation.

    Please ponder. Gurdev is singing.

    ਸਚੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਸਚੀ ਪਤਿ ਹੋਈ ॥

    सचै सबदि सची पति होई ॥

    Sachai sabadi sachee pati hoee.

    ਬਿਨੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨ ਪਾਵੈ ਕੋਈ ॥

    बिनु नावै मुकति न पावै कोई ॥

    Bin naaai mukati na paavai koee.

    ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕੋ ਨਾਉ ਨ ਪਾਏ ਪ੍ਰਭਿ ਐਸੀ ਬਣਤ ਬਣਾਈ ਹੇ ॥੯॥

    बिनु सतिगुर को नाउ न पाए प्रभि ऐसी बणत बणाई हे ॥९॥

    Bin satigur ko naao na paae parabhi aisee baRat baRaaee he. ||9|| SGGS Ang 1046

    Balbir Singh

    Isn't what you are saying NOW what I had said earlier.....

    If you want to experience the glory of God (Vahiguru) through his words (Shabad) then instead of asking qusetions to others, why not spend time in doing paath and vichaar of Gurbani by yourself and spend time in Naam Simran to truly experience the greatness of Akaal.
    
    
    I don't mean to be rude and forgive me if i have offended anyone but I have seen in the past few years, all this cyber forums and questions and trying to be "cyber gianis" which does not contribute postively to anyone. Rather, it creates an environment of hate and anger to which Sikhi has always opposed. The true Khalsa spends time learning Shastar and Shaastar vidiya (art of warfare and learning texts). 
    
    
    
    Please, my benti to everyone is to spend more time in Baani and Naam to truly experience God.
    
    

  3. Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

    Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

    You asked "So then what is the true way to reach enlightnement and receive spiritual wisdom?"

    It is surely not reading a post.

    Quote "And what did the true Gurus practise?"

    True Naam Simran.

    Quote "What is true Simran?"

    Please come to know it. It is not received by talking or reading about it.

    *****

    Amritkhalsa Jee!

    Thanks for referring the true Vaaks from Guru Arjan Dev Jee.

    All the referred Vaaks are describing the results of Simran but one Vaak is suggesting where to get it.

    Strange, in Gurdwaaraas all come to wash their sins (paap) and schemingly receive the title 'Saadh'.

    *****

    Amritkhalsa Jee!

    Thanks for many links to listen, the importance and Kathaa on Vaheguru.

    The reverend Gurus never suggested Simran of the word Vaheguru. Is it not strange? Story tellers waste hours referring other books that also sitting beside their Guru Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee.

    Balbir Singh

    Thank You for the "enlightenment" but again I am asking what is the True Naam Simran? is there a method to it? How can I come to know it? You mentioned that the Gurus practised True Naam Simran so then the question is what and how did they practise it?

  4. Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

    Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

    In my view, many repeat the word 'Waahay Guru' to reach enlightenment and receive spiritual wisdom. The true Gurus never suggested this practice though.

    This may not happen in the future also as the wisdom of true Gur is that Gurdev recites.

    The person whose mind is used with the crowd of thoughts seeks shelter in the crowd Sangat.

    True Simran leads one toward Banwaaree. The need to run to a forest (Ban) vanishes.

    Balbir Singh

    So then what is the true way to reach enlightnement and receive spiritual wisdom? And what did the true Gurus practise? What is true Simran?

  5. Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

    Dear all and Laalsingh Jee!

    ਬੁਧਿ ਹੈ ਤਾ ਬਹੁਤ ਸਿਆਣੀ ਪਰ ਕਰਦੀ ਆਪਣੇ ਮਨ ਦੀ |

    ਸਚਾ ਗੁਰ ਮਿਲੇ ਤਾ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਦੀ ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤੀ ਕਰਦੀ ਹੈ|

    *****

    Dear Cybersingh Jee!

    Thanks for referring the Vaak from panna 1402 of Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee. Is Bhagat Gayand Jee saying here that repeating the word 'Waahay Guru', one can reach enlightenment and receive spiritual wisdom?

    Balbir Singh

    I don't know.......What are your thoughts on this?

  6. Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

    Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

    You wrote "If Gurdev says that repeating the word 'Vahiguri' in 1430 angs, one can reach enlightenment and receive spiritual wisdom, is Gurdev then a Sick Preacher?"

    Please provide the reference from Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee. I will be grateful.

    I every time ask my mind to answer. Why do you want to follow somebody else and not the true Guru?

    Balbir Singh

    panna 1402

    Bhagat gayand....

    Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Jee-o.

    You are forever True, the Home of Excellence, the Primal Supreme Being. Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Jee-o. ||1||6||

    You have formed and created this play, this great game. O Waahay Guru, this is all You, forever.

    I could not use the Gurmukhi language so please look up the ang and see for yourself

  7. One Final Note....................

    You wrote ". . . There is only one True Guru (Vahiguru) . . ."

    No one can praise the Guru without experiencing Him. All that one shine is the praise of the Guru after receiving the wisdom (Gur).

    Strange. Sick preachers promise wisdom by repeating the word 'Vaihguru'.

    If Gurdev says that repeating the word 'Vahiguri' in 1430 angs, one can reach enlightenment and receive spiritual wisdom, is Gurdev then a Sick Preacher?

    Just a yes or no answer please.............

    Thanks

  8. Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
    
    Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!
    
    
    You wrote ". . . There is only one True Guru (Vahiguru) . . ."
    
    No one can praise the Guru without experiencing Him. All that one shine is the praise of the Guru after receiving the wisdom (Gur).
    
    Strange. Sick preachers promise wisdom by repeating the word 'Vaihguru'.
    
    

    Please read this thoroughly....................

    http://sikhscriptures2english.blogspot.com/search/label/Invocation

  9. Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

    Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

    You wrote ". . . There is only one True Guru (Vahiguru) . . ."

    No one can praise the Guru without experiencing Him. All that one shine is the praise of the Guru after receiving the wisdom (Gur).

    Strange. Sick preachers promise wisdom by repeating the word 'Vaihguru'.

    Cybersingh "Banwaree is also referring to those who reside in jungles in search of God."

    Balbir Singh "May I ask which True Guru suggested such explanation?"

    Cybersingh "he does not suggest it but my own limited knowledge and perception...Maybe I wasn't able to clarify my stance but that is what I think."

    Balbir Singh "Gurdev is singing. Banwaaree is in every form." Please listen.

    ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਰਵਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ ॥

    घटि घटि रवि रहिआ बनवारी ॥

    ghati ghati ravi rahiaa banwaaree. SGGS Ang 597

    Quote "What is Brahmaand?"

    Brahma plus its Aand (source) together is Brahmaand.

    Please do not feel strange. I also heard just now this Aakaashvaanee.

    Cybersingh "The true Khalsa spends time learning Shastar and Shaastar vidiya (art of warfare and learning texts)."

    Balbir Singh "Please provide one suggestion from the reverend Gurus. I will be grateful."

    Cybersingh "Please look at Bhai Gurdas Ji's Vaars, Bhai Desa Singh Rehatnama...."

    Balbir Singh "My Gurus never mentioned these names and their writings."

    Quote "Please read the ang in its entirety . . ."

    I am listening. The word Banwaaree from Guru's mouth is wonderful.

    But why do you want me to read the borrowed translation of it?

    Balbir Singh

    You wrote ". . . There is only one True Guru (Vahiguru) . . ."

    No one can praise the Guru without experiencing Him. All that one shine is the praise of the Guru after receiving the wisdom (Gur).

    Strange. Sick preachers promise wisdom by repeating the word 'Vaihguru'.

    Balbir Singh Ji.....I thank you from the bottom of my heart a million times for this claraification....You have removed all my doubts and queries.........

    B)

  10. Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

    Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

    You wrote "Balbir Singh Ji, as to your question . . . Banwaree is also referring to those who reside in jungles in search of God."

    That is interesting. May I ask which True Guru suggested such explanation?

    Quote "your human body is also a "city" in which God dwells."

    My Gurdev describes it as Brahmaand that is within and outside.

    Quote "If you want to experience the glory of God (Vahiguru) through his words (Shabad) then instead of asking qusetions to others, why not spend time in doing paath and vichaar of Gurbani by yourself and spend time in Naam Simran to truly experience the greatness of Akaal."

    I found the word Banwaaree in Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee meditating on Gurbaanee.

    Quote "I don't mean to be rude and forgive me if i have offended anyone but I have seen in the past few years, all this cyber forums and questions and trying to be "cyber gianis" which does not contribute postively to anyone. Rather, it creates an environment of hate and anger to which Sikhi has always opposed."

    In my observations, these are not only forums but also lectures of the sick preachers.

    Quote "The true Khalsa spends time learning Shastar and Shaastar vidiya (art of warfare and learning texts)."

    Please provide one suggestion from the reverend Gurus. I will be grateful.

    Quote "Please, my benti to everyone is to spend more time in Baani and Naam to truly experience God."

    Please ponder. Guru Arjan Dev Jee is singing.

    ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਬਚਨਿ ਰਿਦੈ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਧਾਰੀ ॥

    गुर कै बचनि रिदै धिआनु धारी ॥

    Gur kai bachani ridai dhiaan dhaaree.

    ਰਸਨਾ ਜਾਪੁ ਜਪਉ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ ॥੧॥

    रसना जापु जपउ बनवारी ॥१॥

    Rasnaa jaap japao banvaaree. ||1|| SGGS Ang 740

    Balbir Singh

    You wrote "Balbir Singh Ji, as to your question . . . Banwaree is also referring to those who reside in jungles in search of God."
    
    That is interesting. May I ask which True Guru suggested such explanation?
    
    
    Balbir Singh Ji....There is only one True Guru (Vahiguru) and he does not suggest it but my own limited knowledge and perception...Maybe I wasn't able to clarify my stance but that is what I think. 2nd point... Quote"Quote "your human body is also a "city" in which God dwells." My Gurdev describes it as Brahmaand that is within and outside." Gurbani's definitions are vast and cannot be set to one set of standards as they change with each individual perceptions. What is Brahmaand? is it a certain area in the sky or is it the vast universe or is it the unexplored regions of your soul and mind? Quote"Quote "I don't mean to be rude and forgive me if i have offended anyone but I have seen in the past few years, all this cyber forums and questions and trying to be "cyber gianis" which does not contribute postively to anyone. Rather, it creates an environment of hate and anger to which Sikhi has always opposed." In my observations, these are not only forums but also lectures of the sick preachers." This sir I agree with.... Quote"Quote "The true Khalsa spends time learning Shastar and Shaastar vidiya (art of warfare and learning texts)." Please provide one suggestion from the reverend Gurus. I will be grateful." Please look at Bhai Gurdas Ji's Vaars, Bhai Desa Singh Rehatnama....
    ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਬਚਨਿ ਰਿਦੈ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਧਾਰੀ ॥ 
    
    गुर कै बचनि रिदै धिआनु धारी ॥ 
    
    Gur kai bachani ridai dhiaan dhaaree.
    
    
    ਰਸਨਾ ਜਾਪੁ ਜਪਉ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ ॥੧॥ 
    
    रसना जापु जपउ बनवारी ॥१॥ 
    
    Rasnaa jaap japao banvaaree. ||1|| SGGS Ang 740
    
    

    Please read the ang in its entirety.................

    Soohee, Fifth Mehl:

    Gur kai bacẖan riḏai ḏẖi▫ān ḏẖārī.

    Within my heart, I meditate on the Word of the Guru's Teachings.

    Rasnā jāp japa▫o banvārī. ||1||

    With my tongue, I chant the Chant of the Lord. ||1||

    Safal mūraṯ ḏarsan balihārī.

    The image of His vision is fruitful; I am a sacrifice to it.

    Cẖaraṇ kamal man parāṇ aḏẖārī. ||1|| rahā▫o.

    His Lotus Feet are the Support of the mind, the Support of the very breath of life. ||1||Pause||

    Sāḏẖsang janam maraṇ nivārī.

    In the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, the cycle of birth and death is ended.

    Amriṯ kathā suṇ karan aḏẖārī. ||2||

    To hear the Ambrosial Sermon is the support of my ears. ||2||

    Kām kroḏẖ lobẖ moh ṯajārī.

    I have renounced sexual desire, anger, greed and emotional attachment.

    Ḏariṛ nām ḏān isnān sucẖārī. ||3||

    I have enshrined the Naam within myself, with charity, true cleansing and righteous conduct. ||3||

    Kaho Nānak ih ṯaṯ bīcẖārī.

    Says Nanak, I have contemplated this essence of reality;

    Rām nām jap pār uṯārī. ||4||12||18||

    chanting the Name of the Lord, I am carried across. ||4||12||18||

  11. Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

    Dear all and PAL 07 Jee!

    Please do not complain. Gurdev words are wonderful and to experience it.

    Ponder why sick preachers are growing in number but true Sikhs vanishing.

    Strange. Mahaan Kosh suggests seeing Banmaalee to understand Banwaaree.

    Balbir Singh

    Balbir Singh Ji, as to your question...God resides everywhere not in just one spot and in different manifests....Banwaree is also referring to those who reside in jungles in search of God....your human body is also a "city" in which God dwells....I may be out of line in saying this but to ask question after question and question upon question is someone who is, in a nutshell, "looking for something else".

    If you want to experience the glory of God (Vahiguru) through his words (Shabad) then instead of asking qusetions to others, why not spend time in doing paath and vichaar of Gurbani by yourself and spend time in Naam Simran to truly experience the greatness of Akaal.

    I don't mean to be rude and forgive me if i have offended anyone but I have seen in the past few years, all this cyber forums and questions and trying to be "cyber gianis" which does not contribute postively to anyone. Rather, it creates an environment of hate and anger to which Sikhi has always opposed. The true Khalsa spends time learning Shastar and Shaastar vidiya (art of warfare and learning texts).

    Please, my benti to everyone is to spend more time in Baani and Naam to truly experience God.

    Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh........

  12. tribune news india

    935 Pak Mata Haris waiting to honeytrap Indians

    Women spies been trained in Kasab’s home district

    Naveen S Garewal/TNS

    Chandigarh, May 6

    Pakistan is set to wage a proxy war of a different kind that has its roots in history. The neighbours, it is learnt, is training a group of 935 women to use them as bait to gather strategic information from Indian politicians and officials.

    According to intelligence sources, the women — camped in Faridkot district of Pakistan Punjab — are being trained by the ISI on the model of Mata Hari spies. The aim is not just to entice Indians for extracting information, but also to keep them as potential terrorists; to be used whenever the need arose. The recruits are also reportedly being trained in the use of computers, with an aim to lay “honeytraps” for Indian youth. Once the training is over, these women would be pushed into India through West Bengal and Bihar, sources said.

    This input has the state police and Central security agencies worried. Agencies are wary of any women coming to India from Pakistan on private visits or as tourists.

    Recently, eyebrows were raised when a Pakistani woman was found accompanying a top Punjab politician to Jaipur without proper visa. Also, intelligence agencies are convinced that ISI was attempting to revive militancy in Punjab.

    Faridkot (Pakistan), where the terror camps are being run, also happens to be home district of LeT terrorist Ajmal Kasab. The ISI, it is learnt, is trying to project Kasab as a “hero” who had “gone all out for Islamic jihad”.

    The Punjab Police, too, has been closely following developments across the border. It has intensified surveillance after neutralising an ISI-sponsored espionage ring and arrested four residents of villages in Faridkot. The cops had recovered sensitive documents relating to important military installations during these arrests.

    Also, the interrogation of Asiya Malik, the wife of a Pakistani soldier arrested in Sunderbani area of Jammu and Kashmir in November last, had revealed that another group of over 100 Pakistani girls was being trained in two camps in Bhimber and Kotli areas of Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir.

  13. tribune

    ‘Clean chit’ to Tytler in ’84 riots

    Rashi Agarwal

    Tribune News Service

    New Delhi, April 27

    Senior Congress leader Jagdish Tytler received a major respite today when a Delhi court accepted the CBI’s closure report in an anti-Sikh riots case having him as an accused. The court’s decision effectively clears Tytler of any involvement in the 1984 riots and could resurrect his political career.

    Additional Chief Metropolitan Magistrate Rakesh Pandit agreed with the CBI contention that there was insufficient evidence against Tytler. “There is no sufficient material to send Tytler to trial… Moreover there is no ground to order further investigation in the case,” the court said.

    The court said the statement of California-based witness Jasbir Singh had no relevance and that the statements of another witness, Surinder Singh, were contradictory. CBI counsel Sanjay Kumar had earlier submitted in the court that during investigation, only two persons came forward to depose against Tytler and both of them were unreliable. Both, Surinder, who has since passed away, and Jasbir, had made false statements to implicate Tytler, he argued.

    Riot victims and activists, some of whom had gathered outside the court and raised slogans against Tytler, said they would move the higher court to appeal against the decision.

  14. On http://www.ragmalagurbanihai.info/gallery3.htm if you click the image "3-16" it has the dohra (not refferenced as Mahala 10) with ਨਾਨਕ included, ਬਲੁ ਹੋਆ and ਹੋਤ ਸਹਾਇ as with the standardised Aad Guru Granth, however there are still some spelling variations.

    What is this bir?

    I went to the website and also clicked on image 3-1 and it refers to Dera Baba Ajaipal Singh Nabha....could someone please shed some light on this?

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