akalbir

Mehtab,

I completely agree. I have experienced similar feelings and experiences since growing my kesh.

akalbir

...it was only after I started keeping kesh and daari that I realized what I was missing out. Trust me u will feel totally different once u keep kesh/daari. It brings a new kind of enthusiasm into ur spirit.

ok...for sure..

=)

very beautiful picture.

actually Ali is the son in law and cousin of Muhamed (pbuh)

According to Shiites, Muhamed chose Ali as his succesor in leadership. There was a power play etc. BUT the Shiites split following Imam Ali as leader. The rest is history.

akalbir

hehe....actually i already blocked them....

I figure they must be playing games or are have gone mad and think they are so elevated..

If they were so omniscient, they would know that I have only recently embraced sikhism and will take amrit in 2 months..

akalbir

I've suddenly been getting emails from a Sikh. First email was this.

"Are you a real gurmukh or a manmukh?"

I replied asking if I knew him/her.

They replied that only waheguru knows them etc....They continued with a message acting as if they were some sant.

I replied again that I would like to know who they are and why they felt they should email and preach to me. I got another reply stating that if I would have looked into my heart I would know who they are. They kept on as if they were some sant that was preach at me.

Has anyone been recieveing or ever recieved such an email? I'll keep the email address of the person private. If you think you have recieved emails from the same person pm me and we can compare email addys.

Yes Nirgun, but we must pose a question. Is sleep Paralysis actually a real phenomenon or is it merely the only explanatoin available to science because they are not able to except paranormal experiences as valid?

akalbir

It's not the fact that others want to convert Sikhs that we should be aware of. It's the reason Sikhs are vulnerable to conversion that we should be aware of. It's their lack of faith. All of us in these forums tha take the time to discuss things and learn from each other should be actively doing what we can to enliven the Sikh Panth, starting with our communities.

It's this that will do more good than keepimg watch for who is trying to convert whom. Sikhs first need to finish their conversion to Sikhi.

akalbir

This has also happened to me.

I used to work in a home for youth in detention. There was quite a bit of ghost activity there and all my coworkers also had experienced many things. I chanted mool mantra and guru mantra over and over one night when I was there. After that noone experienced any more ghost activities.

As far as praying out loud or in your mind, I would personally pray outloud. In my mind it shows the entity you are taking control.

akalbir

This is sleep paralysis.But I suspect that other mischievous entitiies take advantage of this temporary state of a human being.

I don't think anyone can say it is sleep paralysis. I have my doubts about the label that science has put on it anyway.

As I mentioned before, out of the many many times it has happened to me, I was only asleep one time.

I do agree with the rest of your post however.

What do I do when it happens to me?I get angry and call upon Narsingh Saroop and tear there dark bodies apart .They haven't come to visit me in very very long time.I wonder why...

I like to confront any kind of nightmare or night terror.You have to take the plunge is what I believe.No matter how sh*t scared you are.You will learn more about yourself if you fight these forces, I believe.I think they are "hungry ghosts", described in many ancient texts.The souls of people who have died having very high desires and material wants.

Show them who's boss!!

the problem with science is that all experiences are chalked up to be physical or phsychosomatic. Although these are possibilities, science will not allow explanations of ghosts or spirits. From the article above, it looks as thoug science has yet again explained away a phenomenon as some physical problem. So how will we know if it is a physical problem or an actual paranormal event?

Do we listen to religious leaders descroptions of the same events in others, or do we listen to science? This is a whole discussion for another thread.

My advice is only what I've experienced to work. You must overcome your fear. Naam will protect you. You are a Singh! Continue simran and naam jaap. Continue your spiritual growth. Show the entity whos boss. It will leave you alone when you show it it has failed. This is what has worked for me. Wether it will work for you is yet to be seen.

akalbir

If it was sleep paralysis you'd have to be asleep to have it happen.

Of the many many times it has happened to me, only once had I been asleep when it happened. The rest of the time I had just gotten in bed and hadn't even closed my eyes yet.

When it first happened to me, I perservered in my simran, jap and spiritual growth. After a while it stopped. Now every few years it happens again, but only once at a time. When it happens now It doesn't provoke fear in me. It is a sort of spiritual battle that I must fight. If it's true that it happens to certain people that are undergowing spiritual growth, then I know I'm on the right path.

akalbir

I had the same thing before as well...I even heard it's growlings and chattering in my ear before. Usually it would be forced away when i start thinking Waheguru or Har Har in my mind then I could gradually start to speak it out loud.

I haven't had problems like this for a while. There are no ayurveds here so thats out of the question for me. I spoke with quite a few religious leaders from different religions about it. They all seem to say the same things. When you are startiing to grow spiritually this happens to scare you away. Jewish Rabbis said that it usually happens to religious people or those that are becoming more spiritual and are meant to do something of some sort. Some also said that it is a hungry ghost type being that sees a person with strong energy and light, so they try to take some from them.

I really don't know what it is, but It's a little scary, thats for sure.

akalbir

WOW!

great post nirgun!

akalbir

Your welcome.

I like your picture btw.

akalbir

the southall link was provided above.

akalbir

hmm... are we all speaking of the same college?

There are a few different Sikh Missionary Colleges. The link above is one in Ludhiana. There is also one in the UK and Arizona. They all have different levels of programs. I can provide links to the sites.

uk: http://www.gurmat.info/sms/

?: http://thunder.prohosting.com/~simico/sikh_mc/

Ludhiana: http://www.sikhmissionarycollege.org/

Arizona: http://www.sikhreligion.org/

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

so SGGS does't say to keep hair is interpreted as we shudn't keep hair...hmmm...

question 1 : SGGS does not say to keep hair, so why should we keep hair? fair enuff...

question 2 : SGGS does not say to cut hair either, so why should we cut it? hmmm ?

yes Mehtab,

It appears that Orchid is making the assumption that we can cut our hair. This is due to the fact SGGS doesn't directly say we should keep long hair.

I assume it's becaue SGGS is the current Guru and SGGS doesn't say to keep hair uncut. It also doesn't say we CAN cut hair.

I replied above as such:

"The SGGS does not say we should never cut our hair. The 10th Nanak, Guru Gobind Singh said we should never cut the hair. Just because the 11th Guru is SGGS and it doesn't say to not cut hair doesn't mean it does away with what the last Guru said.

If one Guru says to do something and the next Guru never mentions it, we still do it unless the new Guru says stop doing it. I hope I explained that the way I was thinking it. =) "

akalbir

http://www.sikhmissionarycollege.org/

Is this what you are looking for?

I've written to them, but they do not write back.

akalbir

but the SGGS does not say directly dont cut hair

The SGGS does not say we should never cut our hair. The 10th Nanak, Guru Gobind Singh said we should never cut the hair. Just because the 11th Guru is SGGS and it doesn't say to not cut hair doesn't mean it does away with what the last Guru said.

If one Guru says to do something and the next Guru never mentions it, we still do it unless the new Guru says stop doing it. I hope I explained that the way I was thinking it. =)

akalbir

I completely agree Xylitol. BTW isn't Xylitol a sweetener?

akalbir

and to go beyond even that, many Sufis say that "la ilaha il allah" means "there is nothing but God". Meaning everything seen and unseen is God.

I have heard so many reasons people have come up with about keeping kesh. Many are rather ridiculous and I have yet to see any scientific studies done.

For myself, the simple fact that the 10th Nanak said to keep the kesh is good enough for me. He obviously had reason to do so or he wouldn't have done it. This gift makes me feel whole, this gift makes me feel empowered. I don't have a need to find some practical reasons. My reason is that my guruji said so.

Here is a good article about the 5k's. It's a little long, but very good. It gave me goose bumps when I read it.

http://khalsapride.com/ChickenSoup/8.htm

akalbir

what does this mean the part where it says uncut hair matted

Since everyone has addressed the hair quotes I will answer about the matted hair. Hindu sadhus make their hair into dread locks or matted hair. They cover themselves in the ashes of funeral pyres. If i'm not mistaken, this is a reason for the kanga. Sikhs have well groomed hair to be seperate from the sadhus.

Just out of curiosity, are you looking for SGGS to have in it that we must have uncut hair? From the posted quotes, it doesn't appear to say that. What is important though is that Guru Gobind Singh Ji said that we shouldn't cut our hair.

I'm sorry if I'm reading into your question.

akalbir

thank you very much. Good information.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JI !