Guransh SIngh

"Guru granth jee maaneyo pragat gura ki deh"

Guru granth sahib jee, as per hukam of dasve patshah should be regarded as the pragat saroop of the ten gurus. Thus parshaada bhog, kamarkasa karna, prakash is done in v shape saroop which is how one sits cross-legged. Therefore, as per maryada, since dasve patshaah used to adorn shastars and was shastardhaari, there should;d atleast be one shastar with saroop and if there is only one shastar, it has to be a kirpaan. This is the answer I got when I asked some behengems at nanaksar the question.

Bhul Chuk Maaf jee

Sat Kartar.

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On 9/4/2023 at 12:13 PM, sevak said:

The only way is via Guru Shabad / Gurbani. Rest is all superficial. Constant saturation of mind with Gurbani and focussed listenning to Gurbani.

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Even I struggle a lot with lust and man ki mail and I would like too share some bachans of Baba Nand Singh ji which have really helped me in this fight against such a formidable enemy:

1. Always do ardaas to guru sahib that "Baba ji saada imtihaan na lao asi sada fail haa" translating to Guru jee please don't take my test, I will always fail. Do rehem on me.

2. Once Baba ji was disturbed in his meditation by kaljug who told him that why are you not letting me do my work, this is my yug, I have to put people in maya's grasp and you are propagating naam jaap and amrit chhakna and pushing people away from maya and making me powerless thus in the process, then he said that I would have already put a stop to you if you didn't have the pehra of sukhmani sahib. Then baba ji smiled and thanked him that you yourself informed me of what you are scared of and that's why in nanaksar, sukhmani sahib path is done 24/7.

Therefore, always have pehra of sukhmani sahib, it is the pragat bani saroop of satnaam. If not able to do full path, atleast do some astpadis in a day because sukhmani sahib is very beneficial and kaljug is scared of the powerful bani.

3. " kaljug pehla nitnem chudanda hai, je tuhada nitnem pakka hai kaljug tuhada kuch nhi vigad sakda" translating kaljug first makes you leave nitnem, if you are steadfast in your nitnem kaljug cannot do anything to you. Therefore to protect yourself from the powerful grasp of kaljug and 5 vikaars, we shoulf never leave shelter of nitnem which protects us in ways we cannot even imagine.

Bhul chuk maaf jee

Sat kartar

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I have heard of a bachan of Baba Nand Singh ji that recitation of mool mantar if done without speaking ,it has way more fal than by speaking, does anyone know anything about that?

On 11/19/2021 at 3:33 PM, Premi said:

 

Wasn't he responsible for helping a genocide of Muslims in Gujarat ?

No persecution of sikhs

That's the reason Reading and understanding Gurbani and taking santhya and knowing the sakhi behind the shabad is of utmost importance.

Mahapurkhs bachans and following them is the way to Sachkhand.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Sat Kartar

7 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

The worst thing is they don't stop at raagmala, most of these so-called gursikhs also ignore the end of Benti Chaupai and also skip Arril, then make pathetic aexcuses for skipping these.  Look how these troublemakers have confused the innocent sangat!!! I think SGPC and some jathebandis promote this grave Bhasauria corruption of benti chaupai bani!

See below link for chaupai sahib mental gymnastics:

What is the correct length of Chaupai Sahib? | Frequently Asked Questions about Akhand Kirtani Jatha (akjfaq.com)

Who knew that such grave times will come. Many people say that the panth is facing many dangers from outside but those are nothing, changing bani according to one's own mindset is the biggest problem currently.

Those who don't believe in raagmala have no right to be called mahapurkh as simple as that.

12 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Ideally speaking, we must do Kirtan in Raags. Raagis must try to learn to do Kirtan in Raags.

Raags are a very powerful tool.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

What about Dharna kirtan then?

2 minutes ago, paapiman said:

IMHO, we must not call any one Sant as the "Shromani" Sant.

There were other Gurmukh Brahamgyanis, who were of the same avastha as Sant Baba Nand Singh jee.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Maafi jee, i meant according to the sau sakhi bachan of Guru jee.

On 2/12/2010 at 12:58 AM, Matheen said:

 

 

Don't read Chandi Di Vaar in the evenings unless you plan on carrying on all night. What doubts do you have veera?

In Hazur sahib chandi di vaar path is read at night in navratri days and it is not read all night.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Sat Kartar

On 7/27/2021 at 5:28 PM, paapiman said:

Wearing of red clothes in prohibited in two Puratan Rehatnamas:

• Bhai Nand Lal jee 
• Bhai Prehlaad Singh jee

 

Bhul chuk maaf

In Jaap Sahib Guru sahib says namo sarab range.

All colours originate and belong to Akaal Purkh jee.

I dont think we need any other source.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Just now, Guransh SIngh said:

I think we all know that since sgpc came in control of Akaal takht many puran hukamnaamas and maryadas have been changed. There is a hukamnaama that sampat akhand path shouldnt be done but sampath path maryada was started by dasve patshah and pargat one again by Baba Nand Singh jee. According to me one who doesnt believe in raagmala is not a sikh, waho waho baani nirankaar hai.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Sat Kartar

puratan*

On 6/15/2021 at 12:33 PM, Trimandeep Singh said:

The topic was, if following all rehatnaamey is possible or not? My answer Is YES. 

First of all it is useless for us to talk about someone else's Rehat. But I am writing this because I think it will motivate us to do more research on Rehatnamey. Let's stick to the topic only.

Is this written in Gurbani or the Nihang Samprada has developed it? I have cleared in another thread that one should follow/strive to follow all hukams of guru sahib.

For AKJ, sarbloh is mandatory and I did clear it that it shouldn't be imposed on others. 

Any hukam in Rehatnamey?

Where does it say that Kirtan can ONLY be done in raags? As far as I know it is not mandatory to do Kirtan in raags. Raags have been praised in Gurbani but that doesn't mean Kirtan should be done in raags only. Kirtan is a great tool to elevate one's avastha and anyone can do it. Do you know even in Sri Darbar Sahib, Amritsar, once Kirtan was sung which was NOT Raag Kirtan.

Pls quote the pankti from Rehatnamey. I think it says that noone should call himself a 'Sant' or 'Baba' or a 'Brahmgyani' and always remain a Sikh.

I think 'Bhai' has traditionally been used for all Kirtanis/raagis/parchaaraks when they do Sewa in a Gurudwara. But they don't casually prefix each other's name with 'Bhai'. 

Why are you creating Dubhida again bhai sahib?! Don't you respect the authority of Sri Akal Takht Sahib? When it is clearly given in Panthic  Rehatnama that bhog can be done at Mundawni or Raagmaala then what's the problem? 

Panthic aggoos keep saying each year to not bring up these issues. It is because of these differences that the pyaar and cooperation between different jathebandis has greatly reduced. Differences existed in the past also but the gursikhs under the umbrella of Khalsa Panth never brought up these issues to maintain pyaar and peace between them. How can you decide it on an online platform if it's bani or not? This is a very old issue. We are no scholars. 

You are also imposing 'Ragmaala' on others when we have the option to not read it.

I request you Veerji, please don't bring this issue again. 

Answering the other part, YES they fully believe in Sri Dasam Granth Sahib and Sri Sarbloh Granth sahib. I also have one of their Kirtan recordings in which they sung some verses from Aarti Arta sahib, which were probably from Sri Sarbloh Granth.

NOTE: If I was rude then please forgive me Veerji. Feelings can't be expressed on an online platform.

Dhanvaad 

Trimandeep Singh 

 

I think we all know that since sgpc came in control of Akaal takht many puran hukamnaamas and maryadas have been changed. There is a hukamnaama that sampat akhand path shouldnt be done but sampath path maryada was started by dasve patshah and pargat one again by Baba Nand Singh jee. According to me one who doesnt believe in raagmala is not a sikh, waho waho baani nirankaar hai.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Sat Kartar

On 8/9/2021 at 10:57 AM, Trimandeep Singh said:

Haven't read anything related to this in any of the Rehatnamey. But senior gursikhs do believe that kirpaan shouldn't be worn under the Chola/shirts/kurta, whatever one is wearing.

Trimandeep Singh 

Baba Nand Singh jee didnt wear kirapn over chola most of the times. Please elaborate on your point.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

On 8/10/2021 at 4:30 PM, paapiman said:

It is possible that Sri Satguru jee gave permission to Sehajdhari Sikhs and Sikhs associated with Puratan Sampradas like Nirmale, Sewapanthis, etc, to keep their Shastars hidden. What do you think?

Nanaksar (which is related to the Nirmale Samprada) Singhs also mostly wear Kirpans underneath their Chole.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

As times change, we change. Currently it is not possible to always wear bana and kamarkassa with sri sahib and katar, keep tail behind us, learning horseriding in most of the mordern world and therefore I think nowadays kirpan is mostly used as a symbol but one should respect shastars as swaroops of akaal purkh jee and pujan sevan should be by sharda.

On 6/15/2021 at 1:51 PM, paapiman said:

But, you cannot deny that ideally speaking, Kirtan must be done in Raags. If Maharaaj has clearly given us instructions in Sri Aad Gurbani (for so many Shabads), as to which Raags to be used to sing Gurbani, then why not follow the Hukam of Sri Satguru jee?

IMHO, this is not a very big issue, but it might be for some other Samprada, like maintaining Sarabloh Bibek (which is not mandatory for all Amritdharis) is a big issue for AKJ.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

it is not compulsory for kirtan to be done in raags all the time but haazri of raags must be done, meaning one raag shabad is compulsory before staring a dharna.

It is not compulsory for Sikhs to keep Sarbloh bibek, I remember a sakhi that I read in Anand Chamatkaar and was told to my family by behengam Singhs that steel and clean utensils,covering face and daadi,clean rasoi,reciting baani or gurmantar while preparing food is the maryada while preparing parshada thaal for guru jee. I know for a fact that Sarbloh rehat is not compulsory because I have seen a pooran mahapurkh eat food in non sarbloh utensil.

Bhul Chuk Maaf 

Sat kartar

On 8/5/2021 at 4:30 AM, paapiman said:

Baba Nand Singh jee was a Bibeki. Gyani Thakur Singh probably made a reference to this in his katha.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I have never heard that before, even in Nanaksar sarbloh bibek is not followed. 

I guess that we all agree that Baba Nand Singh ji is the shiromani of all sant mahapursh and himself got his divine knowledge by Guru sahib. Well, he never said that women should be given Kirpan di pahul, khande di pahul is for each and every Sikh or Sikhni. Guru Gobind Singh jee loved women as his daughters and Mai Bhago jee and Mata jee and many other women were shastardhari and part of the Khalsa fauj. In Nanaksar under Baba Gurdev Singh jee, khande di pahul is administered to everyone irrespective of gender. So kyon manda akkhiye jit jamai raajaan 

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Sat Kartar