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23 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:Thanks for letting me know. lol
Don't mind me, too much stuff's been going on here. I'm on the hawkish side. I'm sure inbetween us all, we'll achieve the right balance.
Do you still have this old booklet of poetry you did in your early days that I vaguely recall reading? If I recall rightly, it had one poem about your bapu (might be getting things mixed up as it's been well over a decade)? I recall that work because it's where I learnt the meaning of the phrase bandh kulasi.
I thought I'd just re-write up for you as no search on google shows it up
ਬਾਪ ਤੋਂ ਖਲਾਸੀ ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ
ਕਿਉਂ ਮੈਂ ਬਾਪੂ ਦੀ ਇੱਜ਼ਤ ਕਰਾਂ?
ਕਿਉਂ ਉਹਦੇ ਹੰਕਾਰ ਤੋਂ ਹਰਾਂ?
ਕਿਉਂ ਕੱਲ੍ਹਦੇ ਭੂਤ ਤੋਂ ਡਰਾਂ?
ਹੁਣ ਮੇਂ ਨਹੀਂ ਰਿਹਾ ਨਿਆਣਾ।
ਹੁਣ ਮੈਂ ਪੜ੍ਹਿਆਂ ਲਿੱਖਿਆਂ ਸਿਆਣਾ।
ਇਹ ਗੱਲਾਂ ਹੁਣ ਹੋ ਗਈਆਂ ਬਾਸੀ
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40 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:Thanks for letting me know. lol
Don't mind me, too much stuff's been going on here. I'm on the hawkish side. I'm sure inbetween us all, we'll achieve the right balance.
Do you still have this old booklet of poetry you did in your early days that I vaguely recall reading? If I recall rightly, it had one poem about your bapu (might be getting things mixed up as it's been well over a decade)? I recall that work because it's where I learnt the meaning of the phrase bandh kulasi.
that long went out of circulation. It was published in Bharind about 10 years ago and I understand that book is now out of print..Maybe on online someplace like 5abi.com
Yeah I understand why you would be hawkish about that..all I can say is I get that re the British Pakistani community,,,but I could be wrong, but a new certain type born and read only in Pakistan is wanting to look at what unites us as punjabis..They still are proud of being Pakistani as many of us are of being Indian etc, but they are putting those things aside and looking at it for the common perspective ...I guess what I am saying is give them a chance but be wary
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On 11/23/2021 at 1:40 PM, dalsingh101 said:I just hope they're not going to use their newly acquired skills to try and groom some dim-witted apnee. lol!
that would be weird since it a girl's school where they are teaching Gurmukhi
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See link
https://www.facebook.com/shagufta.lodhi/videos/359998932550957
Thousands of Pakistani students signing up to learn to read and write Gurmukhi
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Believe it only after the laws been repealed in partliament...talk and words are just that
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not quite the same thing but video interviews with Punjabis on both sides of the border ...can pick up a lot of vocab etc..
https://apnaorg.com/punjabi-baithak/
https://apnaorg.com/sufi-videos/lectures-1/
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14 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:
Roop. That's fantastic. Since I'm illiterate and the browser will parse it in Punjabi or English I can enjoy it a variety of ways and even use it as a rosetta stone of sorts. Thank you bro.
get someone to read it to you or make an audio recording for those who as yet haven't learnt the gurmukhi alphabet to be able to listen to it
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https://apnaorg.com/prose-content/english-articles/page-188/article-1/index.html
Have a read of this link..I think this is happening already amongst us western Punjabis ( Sikhs) ..what about Indian Charda Punjab? Is Hindi and English doing the same?
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On 11/6/2021 at 4:27 PM, dalsingh101 said:
Okay. I've been busy trying to get ready for a test I have. I did try reading one of your larger works. I'm going to be straight up with you. Prior to trying to read it, I had thought that my Panjabi level must be about intermediate by now, but I really struggled with even a few pages though. So I've now relegated my Panjabi level to elementary. I think my vocab isn't all there.
I do plan on going through them. I just realise it will be a longer and more difficult process than I imagined.
oh no...my attention was never to make anyone feel like that!
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2 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:
Or what about writing in english with heavy Punjabi? Like a way for non Punjabi speakers to learn vocab and concepts while reading in english primarily?
That kind of happens in English novels about India anyway
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I'm glad someone thinks what I write is wonderful..Its not the price that concerns me, that's the publishers decision and choice..it's the other things he says about English VS Punjabi etc..sad if it is all true...but that is his observation sitting in India amongst the new gen of punjabis there
Yeah, I am writinng because,,kee kahi sakda,,Janoon hai..and yeah I rather have 100 readers that get what I am doing, even after my death, then 10,000 who can't comprehend it...
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2 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:
Are you familiar with perfume marketing? Most things have intersecting curves of units sold and price. Most things, when you charge less, you sell more units, and so where those two intersect is your max profit.
However...the less you charge for perfume, the less of it you sell, because nobody associates value with cheap perfume. You take the same perfume and double the price, you double the sales.
If you are selling no units at the low price, see if he'll jack it up to five, ten plus dollars and see if you don't sell more and if you don't...oh well. If you sell one it's like selling fifteen now and if you don't sell any it's not much different from now.
There is a reason you wrote these wonderful stories. Many artists are not appreciated in their time.
Maybe you should also write in english, but again in Punjabi in the future.
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On 9/21/2021 at 10:06 PM, dalsingh101 said:
I just wondering if Roop's post might be better located in the Literature section?
Hi Dalsingh, did you get to read any of my books / stories? What is your feedback?
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Gurjant Ji Looks like you were the only taker. I got told by publisher despite giving it away at the price he set only 1 person in the USA purchased a copy.
His view ( He is a young Sikh man living in India who publishes books to pay for his education and has managed to get entry into Cardiff University) is that the reality is compared to the rest of India all Punjabis are illiterate in terms of interest in art, literature etc unless it involves religious writing ( regardless of being Sikh, Hindu, Muslim etc) which is why rest of India looks down on Punjabis. Other languages of India's writers writing in their own language can sell up to 10,000 books ( for India a big number) whilst the best of the best in Punjab struggle selling 100 and those are given away for free as no one wants to read Punjabi.
This is sad as it solidifies the image of Punjabi Sikhs being Agrarian farmers and nothing more, especially since according to him the only things Punjabis are interested is Punjabi pop music, bhangra, jokes and punjabi films with nothing more taxing for the brain than watching the same singers speak punjabi mixed up with Hindi and with girl meets boy, or boy goes west and becomes rich plots. It is all very surface level He says he sells only books written in English by the bucket load to Punjabis, who won't read their own language despite shouting that we should all be proud of it. He is strongly advising me to give up Punjabi, accept our own don't speak or read it anymore and make a living from English the true language of the Punjab and India!
In short I am wasting my time. I suppose one thing verifies his experience and view. I am writing this post in English, and most Sikhs will only read it in English
I have also been told those born after the creation of India have bee raised on Hindi films and language and no one born after 1980 cares for it or can speak it. They only care for the Economically powerful language. English.
So sad that no other Punjabi here took an interest..maybe proves he is right..anyhow do give me feedback on it once you have read it
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5 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:Brooo. The price is so low. Everybody buy this book. You sure you should put the price so low Hanji?
Ohh my God. You have fakes selling books on "Sikhism" for eight dollars a piece.
No other works on here for me to purchase?
I have google dollars to use. Put your collected works up for 40 I'll grab the whole lot.
This isn't my pricing policy. Its a publisher in India doing online pdf books. Guess as no physical book to produce his price is low..
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DHAHAN PRIZE ANNOUNCES 2021 Short List FOR BEST PUNJABI FICTION
The Dhahan Prize founder Barj (Barjinder) S. Dhahan and Dr. Sadhu Binning, Chair of the Advisory Committee, are pleased to announce the 2021 Short List. Following this announcement one book and its author will be highlighted daily on the Dhahan Prize Facebook. On October 14,2021 the Dhahan Prize will announce the 2021 winning book along with two finalists, one in each of the two Punjabi scripts. Mr. Dhahan and Dr. Binning are grateful to the jury panel for their dedication, integrity, and professionalism in collaboratively selecting the short list and the three winning books from outstanding books of fiction submitted this year.
Apne Apne Marseia (Short Stories), Sarghi, Chetna Parkashan, Punjabi Bhawan, Ludhiana
Ik Totta Janam Bhoomi (Novel), Harjit Kaur Virk, Sangam Publications, Samana, Patiala
Jogi, Sap, Trah (Short Stories), Nain Sukh, Kitab Trinjan, Lahore, Pakistan
Mil Gya Nickels (Short Stories), Kuljit Maan, Chetna Parkashan, Punjabi Bhawan, Ludhiana
Mitti Bol Peye (Novel), Balbir Madhopuri, Navyug Publishers, New Delhi
Siyasat Khed Siyasat (Short Stories), Jinder, Sangam Publications, Samana, Patiala
Swaha (Novel), Gursewak Singh Preet, Chetna Parkashan, Punjabi Bhawan, Ludhiana
Urf Roshi Jallad (Short Stories), Jasvir Singh Rana, Autumn Art (India), Patiala
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Gunda Novel in audio..may interest those who can't read but speak punjabi
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