ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ

This project is part of Punjab Bhawan - Canada (https://www.punjabbhawan.ca/) initiatives. Encouraging young Punjabi poets to write and get their work published. 

On 2/21/2024 at 11:28 AM, Premi said:

Please report back on your experience in Amritsar

I myself wasn't personally there, I don't live in India. My publisher was there

https://www.blurb.fr/b/6321327-samurai

https://www.punjabi-kavita.com/punjabikahani/PK-Roop-Dhillon.php

https://pa.wikipedia.org/wiki/ਰੁਪਿੰਦਰਪਾਲ_ਸਿੰਘ_ਢਿੱਲੋਂ

https://likhari.net/roop-dhillon-de-novel-chitta-te-kala-kulwant-dhillon/

https://punjabilibrary.com/product/ਸਿੰਧਬਾਦ-sindhbad/

Theoretically yes. As Guru Nanak had two sons, there may also be cousins etc of the Sodis and Bedis.. I know a few years ago I cam across an image of an old person who was apparently a descendant of Guru Nanak ( Maybe pre partiotin era) ,,,not sure

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1621495901442085/permalink/3533960653528924/?mibextid=uJjRxr

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1621495901442085/permalink/3533960653528924/?mibextid=uJjRxr

An Ode to Guru Nanak 

( there is a video but alas won’t let me upload ) 

https://likhari.net/panjabi-language-and-script-for-the-coming-panjabi-generations-on-the-international-stage-mangat-rai-bhardwaj-dr/

ਕੁਝ ਟਿਪਣੀਆਂ

On 8/22/2023 at 2:04 PM, dalsingh101 said:

Guess so???

 

Brother you come from a Sikh background! If that atheist, nasstik soch is to believed then all our Gurus and all our shaheeds were mugs, who were motivated by their imagination and some made up construct of a creator. I don't for one split second hold that to be true.  You want to think about what you're saying! And not get influenced by Godless fudhus. I'm not saying that people who believe in God can't be evil bastards - but come on. 

What happened?? You lose your faith or something!

No I have a very very different interpretation of the Mool Mantara compared to people who literally believe God was a man in the Abrahamic and Hindu sense. to Me God is how we describe the power that brought existence into being and thus the gender less Truth that is described in the Mool Mantar which makes "God" unquestionable by Science as it actually confirms the Sikh God. Sort of like the Force.  I just don't believe in blind faith that's all. When I received my award at the Sikh Education Council there was a woman from Pakistan who specialised in the Jap Ji Sahib and man she proved the way I have always seen it by stating clearly that what the actuals Gurus preached fitted in with the progressive side on the 15th to 17th century..moreover she verified my way of looking at the Sikhi God..not sure if there is a clip of her brief summary on the Jap Ji..but if there is it might be somewhere in this link...

https://www.facebook.com/balwindersingh.chahal/videos/797940328484417

23 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

I personally think that is a very cynical way of looking at it myself. I think some intelligent people intuitively feel interconnectiveness with creation and seek a bond with their creator. 

Also, cultures help can help stabilise their existence with a framework.    

Also dont know how else to contact you as Can't message you in this webpage...separate subject but I think you may enjoy reading my last output..see link below..

https://likhari.net/kahani-taar-roop-dhilon/

23 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

I personally think that is a very cynical way of looking at it myself. I think some intelligent people intuitively feel interconnectiveness with creation and seek a bond with their creator. 

Also, cultures help can help stabilise their existence with a framework.    

yeah guess so

On 8/18/2023 at 9:30 AM, Premi said:

I think it's fine if the non Sikh intends to actually become a Sikh but not if it is just for show.

Never see Muslims converting when they marry out so we should do same

And if Anand Karaj is intended with one party who is non Sikh, there should be proof of commitment that they are on the path

Maybe a compromise for non-practising Sikhs would be some verbal agreement that they will take steps to become more into Sikhi

I get that. Then that is how it should be worded. That said that woukd disqualify 95% of punjabi people born as Sikhs who in my experience are not actually Sikhs in teh religious sense, and I do suspect that may be the case for Muslims, Christians and actually most humans. Most people are neither Atheist or deeply religious. Just afraid to die which is why they follow any philosophy that gives them an afterlife

So when they say they are for Sikhs only...is the definition Racist ( I mean it means Punjabis?) or is it inclusive like the religion is supposed to be of all mankind, white, black, brown,  this caste, that caste, as long as they are willing to embrace Sikhi ( Sikhsm)? And if the latter reason is given what about the 70% Punjabi Sikhs who take these vows but are either actually atheist, agnostic or fake Sikhs? To me sometimes the guys that run things back in Punjab aren't the most educated even within their own religion? SO clarity is needed it? To me it just appears to smell like the Gurus said one thing, but the Indian - Punjabi Caste / Race prejudice is dominating and being conflated with the Sikhi priniciples? Surely in the long term such as policy could lead to an axe cutting our own Sikh foot off, decreasing the world's Sikh population who will then just assimilate into other cultures / other cultures won't adapt Sikhi, whilst Hindu faith, Budhist faith and other carry on expanding??? Just a thought???

If you can read Panjabi

https://www.udaanpunjabi.com/

Panjabi Language Conference Leicester 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OohFORV5k5U

ਸਿੱਖ ਐਜੂਕੇਸ਼ਨ ਕੌਂਸਲ ਯੂਕੇ ਵੱਲੋਂ ਕਰਵਾਈ ਜਾ ਰਹੀ ਤੀਸਰੀ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਕਾਨਫਰੰਸ ਯੂ ਕੇ 2023 ਵਿੱਚ ਬਰਤਾਨੀਆ ਦੇ ਜੰਮਪਲ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਨਾਵਲਕਾਰ ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ ਨੂੰ ਵਿਸ਼ੇਸ਼ ਤੌਰ ‘ਤੇ ਸਨਮਾਨਿਤ ਕੀਤਾ ਜਾਵੇਗਾ। ਬੜੇ ਮਾਣ ਦੱਸਦੇ ਹਾ ਕਿ ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ ਬਰਤਾਨੀਆ ਵਿੱਚ ਜਨਮ ਲੈ ਕੇ ਵੀ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਬੋਲੀ ਨਾਲ ਅਥਾਹ ਪਿਆਰ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਨ ਅਤੇ ਉਹ ਹੁਣ ਤੱਕ ਗਿਆਰਾਂ ਨਾਵਲ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਵਿੱਚ ਲਿਖ ਚੁੱਕੇ ਹਨ। ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਲੇਖਣੀ ਵਿੱਚ ਖਾਸ ਯੋਗਦਾਨ ਪਾਉਣ ਕਰਕੇ ਸਿੱਖ ਐਜੂਕੇਸ਼ਨ ਕੌਂਸਲ ਯੂਕੇ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਸਨਮਾਨਿਤ ਕਰਕੇ ਮਾਣ ਮਹਿਸੂਸ ਕਰੇਗੀ

https://fb.watch/kEgyPMymV0/

https://likhari.net/kahani-taar-roop-dhilon/

19 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

I don't expect any perfect society, but when we continually and publically promote stupidity like this, it's too much and sort of provides fuel for negative stereotypes about our community from others (publically drunk, exhibitionist kunjars or kunjarees). Some things are better done in private, and discouraging that overly exuberant, pendu exhibitionism we routinely see, should be done from childhood. It's because people aren't taught and made to see how stupid this is, that they do it. Rather, in weddings and private functions many encourage it.  Movies encourage, videos encourage it. 

And personally I don't subscribe to that whole 'Punjabi identity' thing like you're suggesting. If anything I see these fudhoos as lost Sikhs. For years we had that mentality going on where conservatives in the community would just brush off some of the reckless, stupid behaviour from apneean (which often led to grooming and sexual abuse) as just something 'Punjabi girls' were doing not 'Sikh' ones, enabling them to do nothing about it, until the issue just grew and grew and they were forced to confront it.    That's the problem with what you are saying, brushing things off as Punjabi and not dealing with them is a lazy way out. 

point taken

On 1/26/2022 at 11:53 PM, dalsingh101 said:

Do you think bhangra paa-ing like a fudhoo is a good thing for Sikhs? As well as all the pendu caste horseshyte that comes with this 'culture'?  Oh yeah , and also the promotion of whisky shishky culture. 

Problem is how average man defines Sikh. If Sikh is strictly as the Gurus and Khalsa see it, then maybe yes, Stupid applies. But applies to whom? Because if SIkh is defined as anyone regardless of mind and beliefs who is randomly born into a Sikh family, they may be better described only as Punjabis. In which case is it not the Panjabies who are living a stupid lifestyle? Maybe the issue is only AmritShakh should wear dastaars, and not the rest of us??