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On 6/2/2022 at 8:52 AM, shastarSingh said:
Who is a kaafir (infidel) according to imam Ghazzali
Taken from kimmia I saddat (alchemy of happiness)
People only see the outward, while God sees both the outer and the inner man. He who really believes this will have both his outer and inner being well disciplined. If he disbelieve it, he is an infidel, and if, while believing it, he acts contrary to that belief, be is guilty of the grossest.
he seems to be those type of muslims who try to justify the bad things in quran by interpreting them differently.
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42 minutes ago, chatanga1 said:
This reminds me of listening to Panth Parkash granth lately of how Adina Beg came to the Sikhs and asked them to ally with him to fight Abdali, as well as forming an alliance with the Marhattas. A tripartite pact was agreed with the Sikhs easily being the smallest party. The Marhattas reneged on their pact but luckily Sikhs withdrew from the camp before Marhattas managed to attack them.
Dalits.
And who is there that will ally with the Sikhs? Most people around the world haven't heard of us or our troubles in Panjab/India.
If you think about it, we Sikhs couldn't do anything to save Afghani Sikhs since 1992.
Now i understand why the gurus laid so much importance on sovereignty. We are powerless right now and cant do anything.
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18 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:I agree.
GOI ordered our genocide. 16-45 years old Singhs were picked and killed. US army did not do genocide of pathaans.
Had they been given the order of genocide, Taliban would hv got extinct by now.
We Sikhs hv become way too much materialistic.
Taliban is less materialistic and that's why they keep on fighting and don't give up their weapons.
Taliban are better militants than normal Punjabis. But in front of proper Khalsa Singhs, they stand no chance.
Yup Talibani are not even half as materialistic as sikhs. They are happy living in those conditions following their religion just like kharkus were.
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1 minute ago, proudkaur said:We might have become adharmi as a kaum but we still have a large number of people in our kaum compared to other groups who follow the true dharam of waheguru so..
Also Punjab being still primarily agriculture based and not industrial might end up being beneficial to us in the long run because those who depend on others for food they have lost the soverignity for the most basic of human requirement.
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21 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:If we ain't, we must be the most useless people on the planet! lol
I like to think so, I just wish people took things like soil testing more serious over there. People from there like growing food, even my moms, massi etc. (and me!) dabble in it on a small scale like growing tomatoes, chillies, palak etc.
I don't know where we've got to right now, but we were pretty much a resilient, self-sufficient people not long ago.
F**k it. Maybe we have to hit rock bottom and come back up to straighten things out?
My only concern is whether we've done enough chungay karams as a panth for Waheguru to care about us anymore? Or if we've lost nadar from all our stupid kartootan?
Sometimes it seems like we've completely lost our connection to our dharam as a people?
We might have become adharmi as a kaum but we still have a large number of people in our kaum compared to other groups who follow the true dharam of waheguru so..
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28 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:
And when they're being charming they're lying to you. And if you get to the core of their beliefs that's true.
So which is your friend. The liar who thinks you're subhuman and worthy of crimes or slavery, conversion?
Or the triggered ignorant supremacist who's about to kill you and prove it? And has no remaining facade and in fact no facade management. They're not even high functioning narcicissts.
Also muslims say that islam made slavery more humane lol why did allah not just want them to end it? It's such bullocks.
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3 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:
Stay in the shade then! You make me laugh.
You'll die faster in the cold here especially with energy costs.
You should be developing your farm. There may be a food crisis soon.
Punjab has a higher chance of surving food crises with so many people there into farming compared to the west. What do your think?
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1 hour ago, shastarSingh said:
Right now Taliban seems to be more jhujharuu compared to khalistanis.
Hundreds of beadbi incidents hv happened in our homeland but khalistanis hv been quiet.
They also have the added benefit of the entire country being the same religion as them and a neighbouring country of the same religion providing them weapons. Not comparable at all. Also Punjab is a complete flatland whereas Afghanistan is mountainous. We dont even have a forest to hide in.
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7 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:
Nobody declared a Sant a Sant. I believe in Sants. I respect Sants. But who that is, is not universally respected. And even where it is we may not be qualified to make assumptons based on small portions of what they've said without the ability to ask specific questions.
But what is clear. Is something has been done to the history and practice of Islam.
What also is clear is many fine things remain. Many.
But. Those toxic elements that have come from I can't attest where. Historically. And in practice. Are clearly indefensible.
And I'm going to dig deeper into catholic and roman influence in early islam.
As well as the more than one muhammad theory that is real. The theory not the conclusion. But it's legitimate theory.
The quran was written years after their prophet's death through oral redentions. So how much would one trust it when it is not even written by the founder.
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what do you guys think things would be like by the end of this decade in India and around the world by the end of this decade? Big things happening?
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i am going to be honest. I still dont know if I believe Jesus existed or not. Like Christianity has had so many changes i dont even know what is the truth anymore.
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17 hours ago, shastarSingh said:I agree church has done GHOR paap and human rights violations.
But Christians in western countries hv become better in last 50 years ????
I mean non Christians including Punjabis enjoy good life and rule of law in western countries.
Christians used to burn women as witches like only 100,200 years ago and guru nanak dev ji gave the highest status to women through sikhi. It's not even comparable. And most people in the west only follow the superficial aspect of christianity. They only follow what is convenient to them.
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all the dead brain liberals and atheists were going mad on twitter over this.
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13 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:
The truth is that only those who are inimical to India and would want to cause it trouble by breaking it up would ever want to do this. And even then, they would just be using us as proxies, they wouldn't actually be allies.
On twitter someone was discussing how an India with a very powerful defense is very important to the USA to counter China. And that China long ago talked about plans of disintegrating India. Like I said people need to be smart and see through what is happening. Why USA considers India as a very important partner. Why USA is providing India with arm deals and defense tech. Is it to develop India? No they dont give a fck about India developing or its poor starving people. Their main aim is an India with a powerful defense. Why? It all points to China.
These western countries , their aim is not to help countries like India develop but to use them for their own purpose. Why did USA help japan and korea. What is the relationship between japan and china? Good or bad. Like I said Sikhs need to be smart and understand these western countries dont give a fck about us. You can have alliances over common goals. Just like USA is using India. USA will not let India break apart as it needs it to exist in that region to counter China. Why is UK making all these deals with India?
Sikhs think these western countries will provide them justice lol like they gave Israel to Jews. This is our level of thinking. Do we think that they got Israel due to human right issues lol. The day Sikhs realise that none of these so called countries are for human rights but they run according to money only then we can somehow think of what to do next. Khalistan is literally not possible as of now. The USA does not want India to break. Who wants India to break? We need to think instead of wasting our money resources and time going to these western organizations like UN. These people are probably laughing at us.
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Sikhs need to understand this.... That the west isn't what we think it is. Their interests lie with those that have money. Instead of looking towards the west we need to start looking for allies in the East....... Could be China.The USA will always be allied with India and back it up to counter check China. Same with UK and those other western countries. Sikhs dont understand this and think these countries will help them with a free homeland lol. Just look what Boris Johnson said on his trip to India. Will they say this while going to the Middle east? No they need that oil and resources. Sikhs offer nothing.Our people have no understanding of the world and think these western countries are shining lights of human rights and righteousness lol. We need to think politically and understand which countries in the future could Sikhs have some alliances with over mutual interests....
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This world is run by and for those who have money. To hell with the rest.
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Just now, proudkaur said:This same dude is asking the sikh man who helped pay the 2 crore to help him. Seems like the christian missionaries not giving enough funds to convert huh. These people will convert to any religion which offers them money.
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52 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:
Not surprising. Apnay seem determined to leave. Whenever there is a void, people will fill it. If we did a decent job in assimilating migrants over a generation or two like other nations do, we wouldn't have this issue, but I think parchaar is weak overall. It's almost like institutes like SGPC are happy with their gravy train and don't feel they have to make any serious effort as the money keeps rolling in.
Plus people seem to have a stronger connection to their caste identity than dharam. That would be felt by outsiders as lack of unity, and by implication strength.
Christian missionaries working in Punjab to convert even the poor migrants. Why are apne so dumb and pathetic ? Apne feel no responsibility towards the panth and its future.
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9 minutes ago, kdsingh80 said:
He was helped by Saviour Singh. He help people a lot in middle east
ravi singh is using our funds to give them qurans whereas look what is happening to apne. Ravi singh is kaum da gaddar.
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49 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:Not surprising. Apnay seem determined to leave. Whenever there is a void, people will fill it. If we did a decent job in assimilating migrants over a generation or two like other nations do, we wouldn't have this issue, but I think parchaar is weak overall. It's almost like institutes like SGPC are happy with their gravy train and don't feel they have to make any serious effort as the money keeps rolling in.
Plus people seem to have a stronger connection to their caste identity than dharam. That would be felt by outsiders as lack of unity, and by implication strength.
true. Apne dont have any will left to fight.
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1 minute ago, dalsingh101 said:It's a labour issue too. A lot of the migrants do jobs apnay feel they are too good for.
partly. There is a mosque next to our ancestral home and now its filled with them and sometimes even roads get blocked during their Friday prayers. It wasn't like this a decade ago. Alot of them setlling in Punjab now.
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15 hours ago, paapiman said:Why do you say that sis?
Bhul chuk maaf
When that incident with gujjars happened recently alot of dumb Sikhs from Punjab were saying dont flame communal issues like what even. What can you do for a kaum that is asleep? That cannot see who is our enemy? Sikhs always want to prove to to others how good they are. They always want to be in everyone's good books because of being minority they suffer from inferiority complex. So they never take a stand that benefits them. They are committing self suicide.
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17 hours ago, MrSingh1699 said:
Essentially sister there are 13,000 villages in Punjab and they would love to see a new active mosque in each and every pind in east Punjab.
Further, bear in mind that the east Punjab Waqf Board which was run by the 1980's Genocidal Butcher of Sikhs Muhammad Izhar Alam has almost 37,000 Muslim religious properties under its control (but which are not all mosques) and that cities like Amritsar, Jalandhar, Ludhiana were Muslim majority cities pre-1947 and that Sikhs were a minority in present day east Punjab with roughly equal numbers to the Muslims back then in east Punjab.
They are not rebuilding 13,000 mosques just yet (though clearly the intention is there) but at least 1,000 mosques have been reactivated as east Punjab is a non-BJP safe haven (soft touch) for Muslims where the local kaffir population instead of being hostile to the Slavemaster religions are naive enough to build mosques with Sikh funds at the behest of forces that desire to make Sikhs a minority in east Punjab by the 2031 census.
Ludhiana is filled with them now.
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17 hours ago, MrSingh1699 said:Essentially sister there are 13,000 villages in Punjab and they would love to see a new active mosque in each and every pind in east Punjab.
Further, bear in mind that the east Punjab Waqf Board which was run by the 1980's Genocidal Butcher of Sikhs Muhammad Izhar Alam has almost 37,000 Muslim religious properties under its control (but which are not all mosques) and that cities like Amritsar, Jalandhar, Ludhiana were Muslim majority cities pre-1947 and that Sikhs were a minority in present day east Punjab with roughly equal numbers to the Muslims back then in east Punjab.
They are not rebuilding 13,000 mosques just yet (though clearly the intention is there) but at least 1,000 mosques have been reactivated as east Punjab is a non-BJP safe haven (soft touch) for Muslims where the local kaffir population instead of being hostile to the Slavemaster religions are naive enough to build mosques with Sikh funds at the behest of forces that desire to make Sikhs a minority in east Punjab by the 2031 census.
also as Sikhs and Hindus are moving out you are going to find large number of them move here from central India where Hindus are doing all this tamasha. Muslims dont mind living in poverty and having like 10 kids that they cant feed whereas Sikhs and Hindus look for comfort and will run away at the slightest discomfort unfortunately.They see Punjab as a safe haven from hindutva as they know dumb Sikhs will bend over for them. Apne are high on ravi singh liberalism and to show how modern they are by distancing themselves from their roots and religion to prove their secularism. FOOlS!
Smart sikh politics in UP!
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lol just seen shame on bjp trending on twitter. Apparently arabs were boycotting modi due to some remarks made by a bjp worker stating their prophet married a 6 year old and then bjp suspened her after this and hindus are going mad that bjp is not a Hindu party and they wont vote for them.