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Is SGGS the True Guru ?
SGGS surely talks about True Guru in verses of various authors.
Page 8, Line 14
ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥
ੴ सतिगुर प्रसादि ॥
IkÂoaʼnkār saṯgur parsāḏ.
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok
Page 10, Line 2
ਹਰਿ ਕੇ ਜਨ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸਤਪੁਰਖਾ ਬਿਨਉ ਕਰਉ ਗੁਰ ਪਾਸਿ ॥
हरि के जन सतिगुर सतपुरखा बिनउ करउ गुर पासि ॥
Har kė jan saṯgur saṯpurkẖā binaÂo karaÂo gur pās.
O humble servant of the Lord, O True Guru, O True Primal Being: I offer my humble prayer to You, O Guru.
Guru Ram Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok
Page 10, Line 2
ਹਮ ਕੀਰੇ ਕਿਰਮ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸਰਣਾਈ ਕਰਿ ਦਇਆ ਨਾਮੁ ਪਰਗਾਸਿ ॥੧॥
हम कीरे किरम सतिगुर सरणाई करि दइआ नामु परगासि ॥१॥
Ham kīrė kiram saṯgur sarṇāÂī kar ḏaÂiÂā nām pargās. ||1||
I am a mere insect, a worm. O True Guru, I seek Your Sanctuary. Please be merciful, and bless me with the Light of the Naam, the Name of the Lord. ||1||
Guru Ram Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok
Page 10, Line 6
ਜੋ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸਰਣਿ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਨਹੀ ਆਏ ਧ੍ਰਿਗੁ ਜੀਵੇ ਧ੍ਰਿਗੁ ਜੀਵਾਸਿ ॥੩॥
जो सतिगुर सरणि संगति नही आए ध्रिगु जीवे ध्रिगु जीवासि ॥३॥
Jo saṯgur saraṇ sangaṯ nahī āÂė ḏẖarig jīvė ḏẖarig jīvās. ||3||
Those who have not sought the Sanctuary of the True Guru and the Sangat, the Holy Congregation; cursed are their lives, and cursed are their hopes of life. ||3||
Guru Ram Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok
Page 10, Line 7
ਜਿਨ ਹਰਿ ਜਨ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਪਾਈ ਤਿਨ ਧੁਰਿ ਮਸਤਕਿ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਲਿਖਾਸਿ ॥
जिन हरि जन सतिगुर संगति पाई तिन धुरि मसतकि लिखिआ लिखासि ॥
Jin har jan saṯgur sangaṯ pāÂī ṯin ḏẖur masṯak likẖiÂā likẖās.
Those humble servants of the Lord who have attained the Company of the True Guru, have such pre-ordained destiny inscribed on their foreheads.
Guru Ram Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok
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I couldn't resist posting this one too. Just beautiful performance:
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Nusrat's performance in Brazil in 4 parts (with Rahat in the team).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dbAPx5vQKy0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lIAEEWrn6TA
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Yes, there were more choices of video clips but I had to choose something that came close to the lyrics.
But your choice of Nusrat's has triggered me to find another Nusrat's presentation, enjoy:
Following the exact lyrics, Abida Parveen sang it.
Songs by Abida Parveen
1. Ab Lagan Lagi Ki Kariye
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
View lyrics and download Ab Lagan Lagi Ki Kariye
2. Allah Hik Hai
Kalam: Khawaja Ghulam Farid | Singer: Abida Parveen
View lyrics and download Allah Hik Hai
3. Assan Ishq Namaz Jadoon Neeti Ae
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
View lyrics and download Assan Ishq Namaz Jadoon Neeti Ae
4. Bulleh Nu Samjhawan AaiyaN
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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5. Dama Dam Mast Qalandar
Kalam: Unknown | Singer: Abida Parveen
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6. Deedar Sohne Da
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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7. Dil Soch Samajh Ke Laven
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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8. Ek Nukte Wich Gal Mukdi E
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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9. Ek Nuqta Yar Parhaya Ae
Kalam: Khawaja Ghulam Farid | Singer: Abida Parveen
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10. Ek Tona Chamba Gawan Gi
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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11. Gharyali Diyo Nikal Ni
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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12. Ghoom CharakhRa
Kalam: Shah Hussain | Singer: Abida Parveen
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13. Ghoonghat Ohlay Na Luk Sajjnan
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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14. Ghund Khol Deedar Vekhao
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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15. Hai Ishq Da Jalwa
Kalam: Unknown | Singer: Abida Parveen
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16. Heer - 1 - Ishq Jannat Zameen Te Le Aaya Ae
Kalam: Waris Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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17. Heer - 2 - Heer Da Husn Behisaab Yaaro
Kalam: Waris Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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18. Heer - 3 - Heer Da Ishq Heer Wang Sachcha Ae
Kalam: Waris Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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19. Heer - 4 - Daras Ishq Da Keejiye Ji
Kalam: Waris Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
View lyrics and download Heer - 4 - Daras Ishq Da Keejiye Ji
20. Heer - 5 - Ishq De Pichche Bane Faqir Aashiq
Kalam: Waris Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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21. Heer - 6 - Ishq De Janaaze Da Nazara Yaaro
Kalam: Waris Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
View lyrics and download Heer - 6 - Ishq De Janaaze Da Nazara Yaaro
22. Hun Menoo Kon Pachanay
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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23. Ishq Di Tumbi Sahvaan Naal Vajdi
Kalam: Unknown | Singer: Abida Parveen
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24. Jhallaan Pakhi
Kalam: Unknown | Singer: Abida Parveen
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25. Jo Rang Rangya GooRha Rangya
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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26. Kaziya KehRay Maslay Dasenda Ayen
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
View lyrics and download Kaziya KehRay Maslay Dasenda Ayen
27. Kithe Meher Ali, Kithe Teri Sana
Kalam: Meher Ali Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
View lyrics and download Kithe Meher Ali, Kithe Teri Sana
28. Laggi Waliyan Nu Neend Nai Ondi
Kalam: Unknown | Singer: Abida Parveen
View lyrics and download Laggi Waliyan Nu Neend Nai Ondi
29. Mahi Yaar Dee GhaRoli
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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30. Main Bhi Jhok Ranjhan Di Jaana
Kalam: Shah Hussain | Singer: Abida Parveen
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31. Meda Ishq Wi Toon
Kalam: Khawaja Ghulam Farid | Singer: Abida Parveen
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32. Mein Mangti Mola Ali Di
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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33. Mera Ruthra Yaar Nahin Mann Da
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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34. Nangra Nimani Da Jiven Tiven Palna
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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35. Ranjha Ranjha Kardi
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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36. Ranjha Shah Hazare
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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37. Ronday Umer Langhaai
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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38. Tere Ishq Nachaya
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
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39. Wah wah Ramz SajjaN Di Hor
Kalam: Bulleh Shah | Singer: Abida Parveen
View lyrics and download Wah wah Ramz SajjaN Di Hor
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=oWLGReRLwjo
COMPLETE LYRICS
O laal meri pat rakhio bala jhoole laalan
Sindri da sehvan da sakhi shabaaz kalandar
Dama dam mast kalandar, ali dam dam de andar
Dama dam mast kalandar, ali da pehla number
O laal meri, o laal meri
Chaar charaag tere baran hamesha - 3
Panjwa mein baaran aayi bala jhoole laalan
O panjwa mein baaran
O panjwa mein baaran aayi bala jhoole laalan
Sindri da sehvan da sakhi shabaaz kalandar
Dama dam mast kalandar, ali dam dam de andar
Dama dam mast kalandar, ali da pehla number
O laal meri, o laal meri
Hind sind peera teri naubat vaaje - 3
Naal vaje ghadiyaal bala jhoole laalan
O naal vaje
O naal vaje ghadiyaal bala jhoole laalan
Sindri da sehvan da shaki shabaaz kalandar
Dama dam mast kalandar, ali dam dam de andar
Dama dam mast kalandar, ali da pehla number
O laal meri, o laal meri
O ho, o ho ho, oh oh oh oh, oh oh oh oh
Ho oh oh, oh ho oh oh oh
Har dam peera teri khair hove - 3
Naam-e-ali beda paar laga jhoole laalan
O naam-e-ali
O naam-e-ali beda paar laga jhoole laalan
Sindri da sehvan da shaki shabaaz kalandar
Dama dam mast kalandar, ali dam dam de andar
Dama dam mast kalandar, ali da pehla number
O laal meri pat rakhio bala jhoole laalan
Sindri da sehvan da sakhi shabaaz kalandar
(Dama dam mast kalandar, ali dam dam de andar
Dama dam mast kalandar, ali da pehla number) - 3
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Niranjan, you've brought to light very good points.
Most Sikhs tend to go to the defence about such issues. They just want to win an argument. But deep down, they too have their doubts. So what's the big deal? Guru Gobind Singh Ji's actions are not for one person to decide. It is rather the acceptance level/tolerance level of the sikh community in dealing with such issues at any one period of time.
If a non-sikh were to look into such an issue, chances are that he/she would dismiss it as an individual outlook instead of a blanket truth. People from most other religions already have their taste of such arguments which lead nowhere - and they are pretty used to it. They also know that every religion goes through on-going hair splitting.
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I've got no problem with religious mythology
humans are observers in the grand cosmology
adults here in the Pacific Northwest believe in Bigfoot
Christian mysticism recognizes whatever comprises the root
I pretty much believed my guru might be able to manipulate karma
to affect the afterlife of a deceased relative by bestowing good karma
We're Yes seeking creatures who long for acceptance
saying no-no-no's to that which divides life, for instance
living in this world of duality is what we strongly believe
enlightenment, redemption, forgiveness – "you've got to believe"
What more could we want if we have Yes?
it's the disenchanting "no" that nobody likes
you've got to believe that they're really coming
Just have faith, obey the dictates, a sheep following
Don't turn to the right or left. Keep to the straight and narrow
I don't like surrender under those terms; an idea I got to throw
Throwing myself at the mercy of an imaginary being called "God"
makes as much sense as Easter Bunny or Santa Claus seem odd
surrendering to another human being – a master/slave thing going on
wouldn't it be better to get all the spiritual advice from a book at Amazon?
Religions seek a transcendent ideal that always seems to be just around the corner
dangling the carrot not close enough, soon this donkey is going to be a gonner
From your perspective as just one spoke on the wheel of life
long forgotten will be a listed name, appearing in the archive
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Thanks for the correction, dear old friend, Shaheediyan
I was idealistic, curious about a guru in the Himalayan
I'm now looking for a Bigger Picture
fixed by an immutable law of nature
irrefutable observations of spirituality, religion, and philosophical thought
willing to put aside everything that you and I have here-to-fore bought
I can only tell you from my own direct experience that this is not so
sooner you will truly wake up and come to your senses so
presence of an enlightened being is to shock people out of fixed ways
a zen master is asked about truth, "so please be brief", in reply he says
Truth is not in words. You ARE the truth
who knows maybe he's telling us the truth
Beware of anyone setting themselves up as a master
it's publicity and you wallet that he might be after
"Have not our lives been enhanced by our seeking?"
in a paradoxical way; but seeking is an endless thing
As long as you keep hoping and trying to rely on some outside agent
You, Consciousness, appear in Your play acting the role of a student
Fine. This all just part of the play of consciousness
there is only now, appears as a play in awareness
apparently an individual may embark upon a spiritual path
falsely led to believe that purity lies in a holy river bath
consciousness, already being consciousness in whatever form it appears
finds the Source on its own; the Celestial Music that one eventually hears
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Darkness under the candle
Horse now without a saddle
The search for meaning
from a spiritual reading
confines of religious organization
blogging "Controversies" section
for open minded spiritual discussion
what is real and what is an illusion
You become that what you seek
not religious side that Mystics seek
Breaking out of habitual ways of observing
perceiving, thinking, believing and acting
finding the gate that lead to region of the nameless
in endless open spaces, horizons that are boundless
''Everything you have seen here is tricks,'' says the magician
who wanted to know the spiritual rationale for a vegetarian
My basic nature is to be passionate and committed
a day came and with utmost reverence I submitted
plain truth isn’t spoken because it would threaten tradition
ignored the fluff and instead just concentrating on meditation
I thought you had a "hurt child" in your writing
I should lessen my ego and be more trusting
It is easy then to project this sort of love onto the One
Perhaps it is possible for my relationship with the One
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Can anybody not give me a link or a long lecture but explain in summary what is Naam Bani ?
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I cannot post a picture here but if you want to know how Balbir Singh looks like, come to :
http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-s...d-miracles.html
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Pooran Mahapurukh 101 Brahmgyani Sadguru Balbir Singh Jee Maharaj
has a website. Here it is: http://www.saysatsriakal.com/index2.htm
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In Guru Nanak’s composition Guru means God or Sabad (Truth) because Guru Nanak had no human guru. Furthermore, in the entire AGGS, there is not a single verse that advocates the worship of Guru person as a deity. That the Guru person is a medium for propagation of Truth is explained very clearly by Guru Amar Das to ignorant followers who worshiped the Guru person as a deity.
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Visit this improved site for all your raag needs.
http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/discourses-i...b-titles-4.html
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Balbir,
"Surprise. They are training Sikhs to become rAgees these days. Please explain it. Why?"
In what context are you using this word?
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Ragee is not the opposite of bairagee. You are probably confused because the English language has only 26 alphabets while Gurmukhi has 35 alphabets. Thus when you read in English without the "siari" biari, and other vowels the meaning will very much likely be incorrect. This only shows to prove that Balbir Singh Jee you can shake hands with me and we both can attend grammar class on Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Of course, I'm assuming that you would be interested.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giZFcFxwPvY
English transliterations:
raag ga-orhee ravidaas jee kay paday ga-orhee gu-aarayree..................... (This is the title description of the shabad)
Raag Gauree, Padas Of Ravi Daas Jee, Gauree Gwaarayree:
mayree sangat poch soch din raatee.
The company I keep is wretched and low, and I am anxious day and night;
mayraa karam kutiltaa janam kubhaaNtee. ||1||
my actions are crooked, and I am of lowly birth. ||1||
raam gus-ee-aa jee-a kay jeevnaa.
O Lord, Master of the earth, Life of the soul,
mohi na bisaarahu mai jan tayraa. ||1|| rahaa-o. .............. ( Beginning of shabad when sung, note this line is repeated
please do not forget me! I am Your humble servant. ||1||Pause||...............after each stanza)
mayree harahu bipat jan karahu subhaa-ee.
Take away my pains, and bless Your humble servant with Your Sublime Love.
charan na chhaada-o sareer kal jaa-ee. ||2||
I shall not leave Your Feet, even though my body may perish. ||2||
kaho ravidaas para-o tayree saabhaa.
Says Ravi Daas, I seek the protection of Your Sanctuary;
bayg milhu jan kar na bilaaNbaa. ||3||1||
please, meet Your humble servant - do not delay! ||3||1||
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I will look into it. Thanks Shaheediyan. I still need to know the raag for the Sakura song. Kindly assist.
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Children listening to story about Guru Nanak.
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Kindly provide video clips of Kirtan with English Translation like this one:
Thanking all Sikh Sangat in advance.
Here are some which I found:
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I am at a learning stage here. Will appreciate any help from you.
So what is the raag for the Sakura song?
Shaheediyan, I can learn Lesson One from you today. I just played the sakura song on harmonium after reading your comment. and you're right about it not belonging to that Bhairav. You call yourself amateur, but you were able to comment instantaneously after listening to it.
So here I am your student (humble student) willing to take instructions on theory of raags.
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Raga Gunakali/Gunakri
in this nominally pentatonic (Audav-jAti) rAga - S r M P d - it is not unusual to lace the rishab with G along the M->r contour and thus generate an AbhAsa of Bhairav anga.
Thank you for you good knowledge, brother.
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Japanese famous raga similar to Middle eastern raga
check this out:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LKPosU3J0FI&...ted&search=
Raga from Thath: Bharo/Bharav
Chinese Traditional Orchestra
Korean Traditional Song
Mongolian Singers (I love this music)
Tibetan Music
Burmese Traditional Music
Thai Traditional Song
Is SGGS the True Guru ?
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N30 Ji,
I was in the impression that I wrongly posted in Islam Category. I had no intentions to do so and never wanted to get mixed up with shia matters. My question was polite enough - Is SGGS the True Guru ?
If feel there is a lack of participants on Sikhism in this forum. Most of the members start feeling offended in defending their faith against the claims of shia influence on Sikhism.