navjot2

source: old & new Panth Parkash, Rattan Singh Bhangoo + Gyani Gyan Singh

where does this giani fit into the picture?

niranjana is this what you were refrring me to?:

I will reiterate and suggest the people try reading the text highlighted earlier - Sri Guru Sobha by Kavi Sainapati - this is, IMHO, one of the most reliable texts on Sikh history, however one of the most frequently ignored, particularly by modern day groups who like to dwell on Bhangoos Panth Prakash, which is, to frankly call a spade a spade, little more than Jatt propaganda. It also may well be regarded as the Nihang bible, however it is plain to see why given that it provides means to justify many of their supposed traditions and habits, strangely enough never found in any previous texts!

this arent facts.

incidentally, who is mata kivi jee?

It is very clear that Mata Sahib Devan was NOT there when the amrit sanchar took place.

1. She was shortly introduced to her future husband just before she got married.

2. One fails to see what a girl unknown to Maharaj's family circle would be doing there bringing patase.

Mata Sahib Devan's presence there is a later version of the event. The oldest rahitname do NOT mention her presence at the event.

1. based on what?

2. again mere speculation. who says she wasnt know to them? even then, why wouldnt she be at a public gathering?

why would rehitname mention the event or who was prsent?

no one is providing any facts. peoples mere speculation is no use to anyone. people should stop crowding this discussion with mere opinions, be they their own or others.