Maha Kharag Singh

what the hell is this guy?

is he a neochristianmuslimsikhindujew? what the hell!!!!!!!!!!!!

golestan hit the nail on the head.

ok that wasnt a cue for you to act like a woman bahadur, man up or change ur name!

it kills me to say this but kudos to bahadur for having the balls to come out the closet and openly accept islam to the extent of changing his name and going through various different accounts like new pais of salwara, unlike some people who hide behind usernames which mean nothing to them.

Ustad Ranbir Singh Ji~Dilruba & Jori~Raag Sarang Partaal~ P1

Ustad Ranbir Singh Ji~Dilruba & Jori~Raag Sarang Partaal~ P2

Where ever you look in the Koran there are soooo many refferences to Muhhamad's audha being raised sooo high that it seems its above that of God.

For example it says that May the angels behold Muhammad and shower him with praises etc.

No where in bani does it say please God praise Satguru Nanak etc

Sure in Gurbani it says "Naanak paar uthaar" whereby Satguru ji is saying to save Nanak as he is seen as equal o humanity, but in the Koran Muhhamad is given a status which is similar to a devta.

When satguru nanak wrote Mool mantra Satguru Ji write "Gur Parsaad Jap" With the grace of the Guru recite... Who was Satgurus guru with whose grace Satguru Nanak wrote the mool mantra.

My personal opinion is in most cases the reference of Satguru is to Waheguru in Gurbani. Because there is no truer or bigger teach than God alone.

no my comment was an addition to brother unbreakables post.

The sanatani view is that Shiv is an espect or personality which manifests as an avtar to do sidh karaj such as the slaying of tripurasur

oh please post if anyone has got them could do with it too

theres not just one type of reference to a shivling, theres also the reference of jyotriling and atmaling.

Thats why shivji was turned into a dev, because he is seen as an ansh of the great jyoti or aatma

theres a deeper meaning to hi stealing the Gopid cloths, its like the time Satguru Nanak squeezed laalos and bhagos rotia and out of one came blood and milk from the other. Practical examples to teach a lesson.

Even Satguru Gobind Singh Ji was natkhat as a child. they push a bhramin into the water while doing sandhya, and nicked something of a weaver lady (cant remember the sakhi) but this was all to prove his divinity.

Maha Kharag Singh - I am confused, I clearly don't hold as much knowledge as you do, and as some respected members here.

How does the geeta - the discussion between Krishan and Arjun, fit in with Gurbani?

I guess what I am getting at is, why the need for you to go to the geeta to get this, isn't Gurbani (Guru Granth Sahib, Dasam Granth, Sarbloh Granth) satisfy your need?

Not having a go, maybe my english is poor and I can't word it properly, forgive me, but I hope you understand. If you can please give as much info as you can, this is interesting.

Also about the Khands, I know of 5 from jap ji sahib, you are talking of a "battle khand", where nobody is related, all you have is good and evil. Doesn't gurbani say that nobody is really related in this materialistic world?

Also, please explain "When Ran Chandi is summoned she doesnt care who's blood she is drinking, may it be of the righteous or the wicked. "

Thank you.

Our Satgurus, looked at many sources for inspiration, the biggest Mahakaal.

To answer you question about the Geeta, why do we look at books other than Satguru Granth Sahib Ji, why do we accept the vachans by mahapursh's other than those vachans in Satguru Granth Sahib Ji.

If you accept universality in religious texts and Relgious figures then you will accept that gyaan may it be from Geeta Koran etc is from One creator. Therefore Geeta has relevance in terms of Gurbani. Another thing as for getting knowledge from Treh Granth, if Satguru Ji agrees with Geeta, hes not exactly going to re write it into Dasam or Sarbloh Guru Granth now is he?

Before Singh Ji you go on another tangent, i do feel that our Satguru has over say on the way we should lead our spiritual life but i feel there is nothing wrong in looking at other sources aswell as Satguru Granth Sahibs.

No one has any spiritual relation with anyone on earth but we do have physical. And spiritual and physical relations intertwine when Karam comes into play. However on Yudh Bhoomi these laws break there is no physical or spiritual attachment with your foe, just the thirst for victory. Anyway to relate this back to our discussion of pain on the battlefield, if karam breaks down on the battlefield then the merit gained from ones spirituality will not effect if they feel any pain on the battlefield.

As per the Ran Chandi comment, Ran Chandi is warrior spirit on the battlefield. Where once war begins it doesnt look at who's good and whos evil, she will drink blood from the same cup ie from both adversaries. The mythical story is that of the Mahakaali form of Chandi where she didnt see any difference between Asuras who were good and those who were evil but went on a rampage to drink the blood of ALL asuras.

excellent use of geographical knowledge to interpret that tukh. Kudos to shaheediyan!

Neo Paji i reckon tirath veerji would be the best person to expand on the Geeta Updesh argument

We clearly have a difference of opinion, and there really is no need for sarcasm, I am willing to apologoise and call it quits, because I dont think fellow sikhs should let it go this far (well on my side anyway).

Im only talking about what mahapurash have told me, and these mahapurash (Non jathebandi, and ragmalla believer) have told me naam and moolmantar jaap infact causes protection around the reciter.

Bhull chukk maaf (and i really mean that scincerly, I hope you can all accept)

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Thank you and accept on my behalf too.

I would suggest to understand our point of view is to read up on the concept of karma on Yudhbhoomi.

And another thing Gurbani is poetry, try understanding it by looking at it from that perspective. Eg when gurbani says with naam an ant can lift an elephant, this is poetic beauty, its a metaphore.

If we took the poetic beauty of gurbani to its literal meaning wed have sants and mahapurush in this world who could fly and have laser vision LOL

MKS veer i m interested to know about karmic laws discussed by krishan maharaj? Please shed some light on this?

Veerji im on about Geeta Updesh by Shri Krishna Avtar, where the laws of the world are turned upside down on the battlefield. where the warriors on the side of the wicked even gain ran gatti for dying on ran bhoomi.

Shri Krishna tries to explain to Arjun that there is no such thing as paap or punya on the battlefield only death and pain.

In the veda texts if one slayes their father, uncle, brother its considered Mahapaap, but on the battlefield it counts for nothing. Because those who die on the battlefield dont get judged on what side they were on but on how valiantly and with how strong of a warrior heart they fought.

see again your ego comes in the way of reality.

but Guru Sahib came and turned everything around for his Gursikhs, no laws but Akal Purakh's apply to a complete khalsa

Forgive me mahapurush Antinang, so its you who understands the hukkam of Satguru Sachepatshah and therefore you must dictate to us idiots his hukkam. So you must surey know Akaal purukhs hukkam then, please shower us with your kirpa and reveal this Bhramgyaan.

these hukams of Guru Sahib let them break the karmic rules

Nothing can break prakriti da vidhaan, only Lord Akaal purukh has that power, and our Satgurus clearly said that they are not God but servants of the Allmighty

The naam protected the warriors while they were alive from physical harm, and at the time which was pre-written for their death, the naam gave the protection from jamdoots.

You was there wasnt you to see the magical forcefield of naam round the warriors.

As i have said before, Yudh Bhoomi is a different khand therefore different karmic laws apply, singhs such as Bhai Mani Singh Ji did not die on the battlefield therefore the khand in which they passed on was different and in that khand boundaries can be broken, naam can stop pain etc.

When Ran Chandi is summoned she doesnt care who's blood she is drinking, may it be of the righteous or the wicked.

So please give it a rest antinang, go read up on some real books on Bhakti, Naam, Karam etc not fairytales (and no im not referring to the sakhia as fairytales)

ur soooooooo deluded antinang, seriously naam can eradicate kaarmic dosh which leads to physical pain but not on the battlefield.

Yudh Bhoomi is a completely different khand where different karmic laws apply as pointed out by Shri Krishna Avtaar.

The thing is you live in a fairyland where you think that by chanting "waheguru" a magical forcefield appears and stops a speeding bullet. If that were the case then no Singhs would have died on the battle field.

Antinang the real admin cut here is you, as you have blatant disrespect for anyone elses views and opinions.

antinang ur soooooooooooooo in AKJ fairyland!

sorry bro will keep that in mind, just a shame that in this day and age people cant live up to their usernames, atleast bahadur changed his like a pair of jeans.

singho, its funny how you have always showed a sense of affection towards that Blasphemous fool who has made countless attacks on your (ie Sikhi) faith and Satgurus.

Quiet frankly you are besharam for standing up for a dusht such as bahadur

this video recitation of Jaap Sahib is off the HOOK!!!

i just love the way Salok Mohalla Nauva is recited, heavenly bliss

LOL @ hope i got the wording WRITE LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA! Chatanga only you could say summin like that, baleh tere shavash, thanks for the laff!

baleh shaheediya, wah ji wah what a good answer but what a kerfuffle moving to another country leaving back family, friends, occupation etc. You need a heart tough as nails.

hopefully it wont be cloudy at 3 am today!!!!!!!!!