Silence

If doing simran leads to feelings of pleasure and well being afterwards, am I using it for selfish, self satisfaction purposes?

Feedback appreciated.

ਕਬੀਰ ਡਗਮਗ ਕਿਆ ਕਰਹਿ ਕਹਾ ਡੁਲਾਵਹਿ ਜੀਉ ॥

Kabīr dagmag ki▫ā karahi kahā dulāvėh jī▫o.

Kabeer, why do you stumble? Why does your soul waver?

ਸਰਬ ਸੂਖ ਕੋ ਨਾਇਕੋ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮ ਰਸੁ ਪੀਉ ॥੩॥

Sarab sūkẖ ko nā▫iko rām nām ras pī▫o. ||3||

He is the Lord of all comforts and peace; drink in the Sublime Essence of the Lord's Name. ||3||

Can anyone suggest any good kirpans such as the artisan kirpan by jot singh khalsa? Doesn't have to be sarbloh, but should be an actual, practical kirpan. Has anyone bought the artisan kirpan? what did you think of it?

nice!

take amrit where naam drir is given, only Guru ji can give naam and instill it inside you and give you the jugti and this is where all problems and questions about simran are automatically removed.

You won't make progress in naam going to mandars, and why would you want to? You have poora satguru ready to give it.

in this thread there is a picture of a nishan sahib supposedly from maharaj ranjit singhs time with a 'modern day' khanda on it

http://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,6977,6988#msg-6988

click on 'Flag this as inappropriate.' (its under the photo).

Thanks alot!!!! Really I cannot say thank you enough, the bharam is about my own spirituality and mistakes. Can I please ask does the shabad have to be read out loud and does it all have to be in one go?

and xylitol ji, i have sort of tried hukamnama about sort of related things, but I think I need to do some of this jaap too (my own sharda is lacking)

Gurfateh

Just wanted to ask anyone who is familiar with sharda pooran granth or any of the similar granths if there is any advice in them about what bani to do if stuck in bharam and are unsure what to do spiritually (i.e. must make some very important spiritual decisions) and whether unsure if what you are doing/have done is wrong, what you do need to do etc. I would myself but I'll be honest I don't quite get how you are meant to navigate through them to find what you want. So I'd appreciate it if anyone could tell me or give the page number.

I would really appreciate it.

How can it be done?

Any tips from sants etc?

thanks

http://sikhism101.com/node/163

http://sikhism101.com/node/116

http://sikhism101.com/node/111

Also I think there are some 3ho sikh videos on youtube, by Guruka Singh, bibia, etc. on these issues, havent listened to them myself though.

i think mrsikhnet site might have some things.

washing pande at Gurdwara Sahib may help to keep your mind off them, but do ardaas too.

First off if you want to know why you arent progressing/how to progess you simply need to ask Guru Sahib, ie. take a hukamnama.Its as simple as that, don't know why you are putting yourself trhough so much when you have Guru Sahib right there ready to tell you the answer and solve your problems.

About your post,

If people like Sant Jarnail Singh Ji were not only able to reach avastha AND be mukhi of Taksal AND help others on the path AND hold a DHARAM YUDH MORCHA, while MARRIED with CHILDREN, who are you to say marriage and gristh jeevan holds you back?? Like Gurbani says dont blame others and also dont deviate from Gurbani, as only Gurbani can tell you what will lead you to Vaheguroo. That means you remove these thoughts of penanace and running off. Guru Sahib created gristh jeevan and anand karaj for a reason and that reason can only be that it helps us in our Sikhi, not that it hinders us.

Maharaj never did anything pointless, and certainly nothing to hold us back, so why do you think he created anand karaj? To help us of course!! Look at it this way you have 24/7 sangat AND someone to do seva of!!!! Can you imagine someone being there making sure u wake at amritvela or you being there to make them get up at amritvela!! You can both go for mukti together! How awesome would that be, can you imagine you not only get to Vaheguru yourself but get to take someone with you! Basically if we were meant to be some sort of loner celibates maharaj would have told us, however quite opposite maharaj has actually totally dissed that lifestyle.

You are saying that a system maharaj himself has given us and told us to live is hindering your progress, but you fail to realsie it is infact maharaj who knows how we will get to Vaheguroo and seeing as he says celibacy and hermitage is not the way but actually gristi is, you are actually disagreeing with Guru Sahib

Whats hindering your progress is actually your karams, nothing else, its a TOTAL COP OUT to blame your lack of progress on any one else

ਬਾਧਿਓ ਆਪਨ ਹਉ ਹਉ ਬੰਧਾ ॥

Bāḏẖi▫o āpan ha▫o ha▫o banḏẖā.

Man is bound by the chains of his own egotism, selfishness and conceit.

ਦੋਸੁ ਦੇਤ ਆਗਹ ਕਉ ਅੰਧਾ ॥

Ḏos ḏeṯ āgah ka▫o anḏẖā.

The spiritually blind place the blame on others.

ਬਾਤ ਚੀਤ ਸਭ ਰਹੀ ਸਿਆਨਪ ॥

Bāṯ cẖīṯ sabẖ rahī si▫ānap.

But all debates and clever tricks are of no use at all.

ਜਿਸਹਿ ਜਨਾਵਹੁ ਸੋ ਜਾਨੈ ਨਾਨਕ ॥੩੯॥

Jisahi janāvhu so jānai Nānak. ||39||

O Nanak, he alone comes to know, whom the Lord inspires to know. ||39||

and

ਦਦੈ ਦੋਸੁ ਨ ਦੇਊ ਕਿਸੈ ਦੋਸੁ ਕਰੰਮਾ ਆਪਣਿਆ ॥

ददै दोसु न देऊ किसै दोसु करमा आपणिआ ॥

Ḏaḏai ḏos na ḏe▫ū kisai ḏos karammā āpṇi▫ā.

Dadda: Do not blame anyone else; blame instead your own actions.

ਜੋ ਮੈ ਕੀਆ ਸੋ ਮੈ ਪਾਇਆ ਦੋਸੁ ਨ ਦੀਜੈ ਅਵਰ ਜਨਾ ॥੨੧॥

जो मै कीआ सो मै पाइआ दोसु न दीजै अवर जना ॥२१॥

Jo mai kī▫ā so mai pā▫i▫ā ḏos na ḏījai avar janā. ||21||

Whatever I did, for that I have suffered; I do not blame anyone else. ||21||

and

ਦਿਨੁ ਰੈਨਿ ਅਪਨਾ ਕੀਆ ਪਾਈ ॥

दिनु रैनि अपना कीआ पाई ॥

Ḏin rain apnā kī▫ā pā▫ī.

Day and night, they receive the rewards of their own actions.

ਕਿਸੁ ਦੋਸੁ ਨ ਦੀਜੈ ਕਿਰਤੁ ਭਵਾਈ ॥੪॥

किसु दोसु न दीजै किरतु भवाई ॥४॥

Kis ḏos na ḏījai kiraṯ bẖavā▫ī. ||4||

Don't blame anyone else; your own actions lead you astray. ||4||

and

ਦੋਸੁ ਨ ਦੀਜੈ ਕਾਹੂ ਲੋਗ ॥

दोसु न दीजै काहू लोग ॥

Ḏos na ḏījai kāhū log.

Don't blame others, O people;

ਜੋ ਕਮਾਵਨੁ ਸੋਈ ਭੋਗ ॥

जो कमावनु सोई भोग ॥

Jo kamāvan so▫ī bẖog.

as you plant, so shall you harvest.

ਆਪਨ ਕਰਮ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਬੰਧ ॥

आपन करम आपे ही बंध ॥

Āpan karam āpe hī banḏẖ.

By your actions, you have bound yourself.

ਆਵਨੁ ਜਾਵਨੁ ਮਾਇਆ ਧੰਧ ॥੧॥

आवनु जावनु माइआ धंध ॥१॥

Āvan jāvan mā▫i▫ā ḏẖanḏẖ. ||1||

You come and go, entangled in Maya. ||1||

and there are many more just search the word 'blame' in srigranth.org

Also penance is a big no no, if you beleive in Guru Maharj you will believe that only Naam pleases Vaheguroo, the reason for you not making progress is clear IMHO, if you still beleive in running away, doing penance and that gristi is hodling you back, you clearly havent taken in the message of bani at all, no offence.

bhull chukk maaf

interesting video, but whats the meaning of "hindu sikh"?

this is an understandable and on the whole agreeable explanation for its use in regards to the martial art, i.e. hindu sikh shastar vidia, but how you can you explain the phrase "hindu sikh soldiers" as found in the video description? Surely there should be an and between hindu and sikh?

Nihang Niddar Singh demonstrates and expands upon the history and technique employed by Hindu Sikh Soldiers in Loh Mushti, a means of fist fighting whilst wearing an iron bracelet. This clip is intended purely for educational and informational purposes and it not meant to be an instructional video. Attempts to copy the techniques shown could lead to injury

interesting video, but whats the meaning of "hindu sikh"?

reading the synopsis it doesn't seem to mention any thing about the 'relationship' being protested by any one, and his parents were living together unmarried? Thats unbelievable! Oh AND they lived like this under a sant?? Where the hell was this? Also obviously you have to ask where on earth this singh's dal was to give him sajaa, I'm pretty certain this would be dealt with pretty harshly to say the least.

I checked out this book's summary on a few sites, just wondering is this meant to be a true story? if so what the hell??

I have to say I don't see anything wrong about this! I hate it when things like this come right up in my face when on the tube etc.

I worked out a good simple way recently, before you go in the shower just wet your dhari and cover it in conditioner. Then with your kanga just comb the whole dhari with the conditioner in it,you want to comb it so it looks how you want it to look (obviously it will be alot more smooth and in place than when you have washed it out!) then I just wash it out towards the end of the shower, pat it gently with the towel so its only damp (dont move the dhari out of place though), then apply a little bit of oil over the whole dhari, still taking care not to let it get out of place. In a few minutes time it will start curling again but hopefully it will look nice and will stay put more or less in the places you combed it earlier.

We are not pagans we are sikhs, what next no sunglasses where disrespecting the sun god?!

I think Silence ji meant that a lot of the weird practices like the ear-piercing babies stuff in PS could just as easily be repeated by a modern day Punjabi who believes that such things are part of Sikhi rather than traditional cultural practices from Punjabi village folk.

K.

Yeah pretty much, sorry I can't offer any deeper insight! lol

But would like to hear your thoughts dalsingh

Its funny how your typical punjabi ideas from that time could just have easily have been said by any one of today. That really is very strange though isn't it. There is no doubt that is one of the most confused periods of sikh history, if not the most.

is'nt kaljug supposed to last some 100.000 years? it only started 5000 years ago

I didn't know he was that old!

How on the earth did they translate yaara to mean "beloved of God"? it just means friend doesn't it?

not sure why it is present in either of the thuks though.

it might be gatka, but rajput still won!

I'm gonna ask a question, just for the debates sake. Alot of memebers on this board pride themselves on so called traditional sikhi, however when it comes to many issues actually in real life, they seem to take liberal modern approaches. How do you think something like this would have been dealt with by our forefathers? In fact this kind of occurance would not even be dreamt of has even happening in the first place.