Undergroundsikhi

Sorted Will you be posting out details?? of Times locations etc

How much does it cost ?

www.sikhstudent.org has some to

I heard he's setting up at of summer in LONDON

I take it you got a g/f?

Serious note if you get a chance go to the Akahara for Shastar Vidiya i have been to 2 lessons ie: 6 hours and my entire physical aspiration towards my body/khalsa/guru have increased for the better, I no longer just sit there getting fat, I feel the "bir ras" to train,weights,vidiya, download the traning videos and watch them and try to copy the moves and you'll see the benefits (I don't recommend the weapons, you'll need serious guidence, but the shastar namaskarn,mool pentra etc you can do in your living room, go to http://www.shastarvidiya.org/video/ & download the vid's

PS: i haven't started chopping up goats, and eating meat, but you never know..hhaha(joke) :wink:

yeah kickboxing and i have to take my pug of and have the hair in a pony tale.((ooo)

Vahiguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vahiguru Ji Ki Fateh

I heard over the weekend that the Dasam Granth contains some ‘taranas’. My knowledge of the Siri Dasam Granth is very limited, can somebody give me an indication where I can find these. I was always under the impression that the taranas were in the sarab loh granth

Queston asked by sangat please reply and I will fwd all replies

Clear as mud.......... :arrow:

"""After the Tenth Living Guru had departed this earth, the Guruship was vested by him to Adi Guru Durbar (also known as Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji within modern mainstream Sikhism).""""

:shock: ...........hmmm

Good points Narsingha any comments

Working on the Sikh Cyber Museum has been a great journey of discovery for me. I have learned so much about a very important part of my peoples history and an important part of history of the country in which I live today. A history that very little is known about or talked about. A history that binds the cultures of Sikhs and the British.

There is a general identity crisis within the asian youth of today because they do not know, what they are doing here, or how they have come to be here, or who they are. Only when we look into the past and understand where we have come from can we ascertain where we are now and more importantly in which direction we must venture in the future.

I hope this website helps the next generation of British youth to learn from our past, appreciate each others cultures and make a connection for the Future.

Taranjit Singh

Curator/Project Co-ordinator

Sikh Cyber Museum

http://www.sikhcybermuseum.org/

paranoia :roll: look into the daily nitnem guru ji mentions "hindu refernces" Shiva,bramha etc as examples, and then sarbloh.info have just put pictures to the words

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hmm..very interesting points thankyou

Ironic how this posting above speaks of dividing the Sikh faith yet the AKJ remain ALONE on their stance with regard to:

a) being anti-Raagmala,

compulsory keski for women,

c) compulsory "naam drirh" (which incidentally arises from Radasoami influence)

d) puritanical fanatic compulsory vegetarianism,

e) what can only be described as "pakhand" Kirtan (devoid of Raags)

f) brahminical use of Sarbloh (amongst the self-proclaimed "bebeki" AKJ)

g) their endless renditions of Bhai Randhir Singh's texts which are equivalent to the Christian 10 commandments.

They also reveal through their actions a complete LACK of knowledge with regard to:

a) Gurmat Sangeet (knowledge of Raags and musical meters)

Shastar Vidiya (knowledge of combat arts)

c) Ayurveda (knowledge of medicine)

d) Santhia (correct learning of Scriptures)

e) Katha (expounding scriptures and historical texts)

f) Ithihaas (historical study)

Read "Sikhs of the 18th Centrury" by Surjit Singh Gandhi(dodgy name poor guy) but the book is good,

see www.dtfbooks.com for other books

The Akj board is too slow man they check every single message, to wait for approval, and i suppose if it doesn;t fit their thinking it won;t go up, i;ve just posted a reply i'll see if it goes up

Sikhawareness rules !

Part 2 coming sooon

yeah but its the same scenarior for loads of youngsters in the west

!!Barcardi/Coke & a few Spliff’s !

ONLY READ THIS IF YOU ARE AT UNI,& you DRINK,SMOKE SKUNK & LOVE LIVING LIFE!!!

People may think I'm crazy, but I feel so high from sikhi, its just that it

hard to feel it when you don't realise what this "thing" called Sikhi is so

great.

When I started getting into Sikhi 2 years ago, all my knowledge of sikhi was a

photo of Guru Nanak in my front room. I used to love uni, man all the late

nightclubs, checking out the ladies, rolling the skunk & keeping sweet with all

the lads.

Trimming the goatee beard and gelling the hair …..and putting on the badest

garms ..man I’m just smiling writing this.

It was a good laugh man , blazing up the reffa’s and chilling to

Redman,Wu-Tang. Many people don’t realise how happy House and Garage can make

you high, such a buzz when you see the dance floor packed with people of all

colours & creeds.

At uni we always used to go to the library with the thought of “yeah man,got

assignment to do,well go to the library from 10 o’clock to 4 and then go to

happy hour, what happened we used to get there at 10.30,scratch our heads

thinking of what books to get by 11 would have gone out for a quick ciggy by 12

aaah let’s go to the bar to see whose there…and that’s was party time again ….

Clubs were wicked coz now I look back and think if it weren’t for my mates and

if it were’t for the gigs, I wouldn’t have been here today. I always had my

conscience battering me sayin “Don’t do this don’t do that†but I always

ignored it coz that’s what my mind loved doing.

Uni is tough man especially when you walk around behind shadows of everyone

else,no one knows weather they are coming or going.

If anybody asked what religion I was I would hold up my kara and say “I am a

sikh†then I used to such a hypocrite, when I used to see a “PUGWALA (smoking

and drinking I used to get so p****ed of & used to cuss him, and when I used

to see sikh girls drinking or smoking I used to think, damn man I gotta marry

one of these girls one day “and she ain;t gonna be smoking or drinkingâ€

I always thought if one day i do become a singh,i won;t be like that dodgy singh

Then after a 3 years heavy sessioning, I was getting sick of the same routine,

get up bill up, and chill do assignments and driving up and down uni road’s

trying to look bad!

Man there must be more to life I always asked myself, and today I can say

clearly there is!! But you don’t know why because it’s not your fault.

Can you believe it the first time I ever heard of sikh society was in the bar

whilst I was holding my pint of cider, well neither can I.

And you know what I done I ignored it ,I thought that Sikhi is not for me I am

a bad person, who drinks, smokes and eats meat,â€WHAT THE HELL WILL I HAVE IN

COMMON WITH ANYONE ELSE AT SIKH SOC THEY WILL JUDGE,ME & CUSS ME FOR BEING A

CUT HAIR SINGH WANNA BE!!!!!!!

Waheguru …today’s my bro’s and sista’s, different story I went to the Sikh soc

and I can’t tell you in this email of how much today I feel for you lot out

there!! Who don’t realise WHO you are & WHAT your heritage is!

!!!!!!!!I HOPE YOU CARRY ON READING THIS MAIL!!!!!!!!!!

The first time I ever listened to kirtan (with English translation) tears

dropped from my eyes, the first site I ever read on sikhi shocked my entire

body, the first hair that I let to grow on my body gave me power.

From then onwards my heart and mind no longer, longed for the taste of

ciggeretes and alcohol!

Waheguru….all this education and love that Guru Gobind Singh the king of kings

had for me just kept pulling me closer and closer, I kept reading the websites

on sikh history http://www.sikh-hisory.com and listening to kirtan

http://www.sikhnet.com, even today I can’t understand what it means but I

sometimes burst out in tears of love.

I never reliased that Guru Granth sahib was NOT just a book and IS MY GURU. I

used to read the history of the Great SikH Women, who used to have there baby’s

chopped up into little pieces and hung around there necks, beaten and raped to

be forced into converting to Islam…but they never gave up there faith in the

Guru ji. I remember reading the story of Bhai Taru Singh who said the

executioner “You can chop of my head ,but not my hair or beard be cutâ€â€¦.I

recall story’s of Banda Singh Bahadhur having his 8 year old son’s heart being

ripped out in forced into to his mouth to make him convert….my brother and

sista’s your

HISTORY,YOUR HERITAGE IS SO GREAT BUT NO ONE WILL EVER TELL YOU IT

JUST MAKE THE EFFORT TO READ A WEB SITE(do a search) OR LEARN A SHORT

STORY,TAKE OUT 10 minutes a week anything read a leaflet or shabad from

http://www.sikhitothemax.com and do a word search

I used to think what will happen to the gurdwara’s in 10-15years time, I used

to think that if I DON’T CARE ABOUT SIKHI ,THEN WHO WILL!!!

Today with God’s grace, I like many other young Sikhs in he UK who come from a

similar background ‘s are saying to yourselves WAKE UP help outyour sikh soc

and local community anf family's.

You are the future you, are Lions and You are Princess’s and through You Sikhi

will flourish, you are the next MP’s you are the next policy makers,

You are torch of Guru ji don’t let that torch blow out!

I WOULD AT THIS POINT LOVE TO CARRY ON BUT I GUESS YOUR ALL GETTING TIREDWaheguru ji ka khalsa, (The khalsa belongs to God)

Waheguru ji ke fateh (The victory belongs to God)

Its all good but you can't beat doing it yourself, and being present in the seva, alot of ppl nowadays just "pay and prey" ..sad ..but its kalyug

You have to keep clean it helps the brain function try it don;t have a wash for a few days and see what state your mind is in after a few days, have shower and freashen up and you'll seee the difference, (ps:it was long time ago @ uni, i swear)

Sikhi requires a high discpline and that means the in all aspects, the body could be as clean as possible, but the mind still looks at women in lust ...so the mind is what we try to keep clean,through contemplation and practice. :idea:

i aint the only one man loads of kuira and munde have come through and are now well boosted into Sikhi..I just put it in words

1) To much Sharab

2) To much £$

3) TV

4) no prachar in the villages

It is there you just gotta go to the right place and meet the right ppl

Do Ragra...nah just jokin :wink:

Seriously appreciate the things god's given you, your life worth jack without love of god, look aroun dyou go 4 a walk, get away from your "normal" routine, go to the gurdwara i went yesterday its was wicked..sukhmani sahiob rahiras.kirtan i been boosted since, i;m aitng for the down pour this evening then i'll keep the faith and remember the saheeds and then all of a sudden my life seem ok .strange :shock:

this was done by Harjit SIngh Lakhan...see his brilliant books @

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