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Guru saahiban told us not to keep bair with anyone. We are not following him... so we are not sikh?

Can you put the arth of 'Kalmal Hoi Mednee' dont just dodge it. Please put it up

Also the shabad of Bhagat Namdev Ji please.

Can I ask, have you taken amrit? What banis were recited? What banis were recited in 1699? I think it is worth noting what your views really are rather then questioning others on the forum all the time.

If I do not do this, i become a achhoot or some other name you want to give...

This is exactly hindus want... divide sikhs in sggs supporter and dasam granth supporter, dehdhari supporete and others, naamdhari, ..etc etc.

Do they have any direct face to face fighting among themselves?

do they have shiva followers fighting vishnu followers? raam followers fighting krishan followers.

All are hindus even if they are shoodra, vaishya khsatriya... then why we have this problem. an issues of putting two granths at one place has been made a fight between followers of guru Nanak and Guru Gobind Singh , basically. Now do not talk about technicalities.

Basically the groups are followers of first and followers of tenth guru.

We have to come out of this.

BTW, how many SIKHS are there in the world? Any idea of population?

6 Singhs are now confirmed Shaheed.

Here is what a Singh on Facebook who has information from firsthand sources and not just media had to say about the issue:

Kamaljeet Singh ShaheedSar sent a message to the members of No Khalsa Panth without Sri Dasam Guru Granth.

Who is our commander today in field?

Which is our Capital??

Which is the area of operations of this Army??

What is this army doing to uphold the values given to it by its Creator Lord?

Today, Khalsa has been made to look like a joke, by our Jathedars, Our Leaders,so-called panthic organizations and Our Enemies equally.

What abt Anti-Dasam Baani heretics?? Where are they?? ............. they'll come out again and start their panth-dokhi parchar against Dasam baani! Traitors! Where is Jeonwala’s pen now?? Where is Sabhra and party now??

Khalsa ji, time is really tough, A Sikh will have ti live as his Guru wanted him to live, else Sikh will not exist at all. Our Guru made us Fauj,look at urself, do u look like a Khalsa Fauji??

Be vigilant, United and don’t let Panth dokhis in us to spread hatred in Panth. Rememeber, whenever Panth has called, These very Bahmanvaadi and pakhandi organizations like DDT, AKJ, Sant Samaj have come in forefront to do Sewa of Panth and not these Panth-dokhi missionaries and Anti-Dasam granthis. Beware from peoples of all parties, be they frm Akali dal, BJP, Congress, Communists, all are same for Khalsa Panth!

Do Simran, Read Baani and Pray for a Jarnail, Who’ll lead us and guide us. That’s what we need now!

Does hindu community has any such issues raked up now and then?

Why dasam granth has started to be eqauted with SGGS after so many years. Did SGPC had any such equality issues even a few years back?

It is subtle way of dividing us.

Real issue was about doing Dasam granth Parkaash ALONGWITH SGGS Ji.... but now it has been made a different issue of authenticity etc.

A Good leader is really required. We just have to refuse / remove our current leaders.It is not easy to do it but we have to do it.

Now the times have changed... straight fight is not going to win u anything. You need to fight it democratically... not with shastra always.

Sikhs get easily aggressive.... and Hindu have easily exploited in dividing us.

Why are we saying that One is better than other if we are all one?

If one knows meaning of shabads,or recite them from memory, does he become a better person than others?

Real need is unity and good leadership.

Not really. Chaa pooraa karan nu namee ptaaree khuldee rehndee.

Apart from everything else.... u have great sense of humor.... that makes you a good person atleast... I think that is what our Gurus desire in each one of us...

Let the other discussion continue.

Where is your proof that Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the complete and Guru of the Sikhs. And what will you show me that ur a Khalsa. lol The guy who rejects Sri Dasam Granth is Khalsa. Take your brahmin teachings back to SPN. They will love you there and if you suck up to them long enough, they'll even make you part of there team of fools. And the sangat here knows you deserve such a title after your hard work.

Ah!... so You are going to decide about completeness of Guru granth Saahib as Guru... Not Guru Gobind Singh Ji?

BTW, real matter is .. whether dasam granth has equal status as Guru Granth Saahib?

prof. darshan Singh also has this main question and most probably this is the real issue.

So, Is it equal?

Who has authority to decide?

Everybody had used dasam Granth... atleast in part..... Right?

So let us have simple and staright answers instaed of explanations of what is written and where.

It is not going to help if you keep saying undesirable words.

Are those charittars saying to go and perform those acts?! Bandha banja.

Why any question about these things results in such reactions.. like banda ban Ja,.. kar deyaan ge, you die.. etc

recesntly I was on Sikhsangat and they closed the thread. before closing,I had similar advices/ threats.

Discussion my friend discussion.... no fights/killings threats.