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  1. In entire Gurbani ਸਤਿ is only used to refer to the truth, whereas ਸਤ (with or without other 'maatra') can usually refer to the truth, the juice of a lemon for example, the number seven (and I assume there are more too).

    In case of Punjabi, there have been many changes in words and their usage. If you read Bhai Randheer Singh ji's books that were written in the duration of 1930-40s, there is a huge range of vocabulary that you won't find in today's language.

    Here are some interesting changes that took place in the English language:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English-language_spelling_reform#Arguments_for_reform

    For example, music was spelledmusick until the 1880s, and fantasy was spelled phantasy until the 1920s.[25] For a time, almost all words with the -orending (such as error) were once spelled -our (errour) and almost all words with the -er ending (such as member) were once spelled -re (membre). In American spelling, most of them now use -or and -er, but in British spelling, only some have been reformed.

  2. http://tisarpanth.blogspot.co.uk/

    I will begin reading this and share my critical appraisal aswell if any.

    Thanks for sharing bhaji! It really is awesome!

    This article I liked in particular coz I've been looking for a good explanation since quite a while...

    http://tisarpanth.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/aad-chand-whats-big-deal.html

    The comparison of aad-chand with degh-tegh is really good! I've never come across is before.

  3. That's not entirely true from what I hear, eventually you will be able to hear it 24-7. For the past few days mine has been on loads. I thought it would also manifest when you go internal and begin to close of the nine gates. But mine just starts even when I have my eyes open and my mind is still. Sometimes I wake up in the night and its happening. Just wish it was intoxicating to draw me to listen to it. I will see if I can post some relevant pages from Discourses from the Beyond which will shed some light.

    That's amazing then! (although it doesn't make any sense to me coz I've never experienced or read it anywhere...I was simply told about it.

    Looking forward to your updates :)

  4. This is the very problem I have come to realise, no one is willing to tell us when we are hearing the anhad bani and how it manifests. I seriously recommend you read Discourses on the Beyond volume 3. Which briefly mentions visions and sounds.

    Whoa! I didn't know this was actually a translation of Baat Agam Ki volumes!!! (just finished googling) We've got all of them. All of Baat Agam Ki, Kiv Sachiaara hoiye....and so many more! (Well, technically it's my Singh's collection.)

    My Singh has actually been pestering me to read Baat Agam Ki....I've only read about 50 pages of the first book yet. There is just SO much to take in....it's not just a simple flowing novel. I've got a great reading speed for English (read all of the twilight series in a week back then!)....but reading these books is just something entirely different. You want to go through them very carefully and take everything in! Also, reading in Punjabi has taken a bit of time to speed up.

    Anyways, thanks for the advice...I will surely start again on Baat Agam Ki.

    Also, it is said that if one reads the entire Kiv Sachiara hoiye series, one is sure to get vairaag!

    Don't force yourself through tunnels unless some abyaasi pursh who you place full trust in instructs you to do so.

    Yeah, the focus should only be on the shabad and it just doesn't matter what goes on around it all. I think it is alright to just acknowledge that such and such is occurring but not dwell over it.

    Also if this thing becomes very loud how will I function day to day. Someone is talking to me and I can hear this sound in my ears. lol

    LOL! funnily enough...I had asked the same question once!

    It won't go on outside of your meditative state.

    The problem I face, and I'm sure others out there also, is that we have been given too much knowledge of different techniques. Rather than starting from the beginning and progressing we know focus here focus there, you will see this you will see that. It all in our mind now so it won't be difficult for the mind to say let me give them what they are expecting.

    True!

    Hope that helps, Ji.

    Thank you, Bhaji.

  5. There is a little bit explained in Discources on the Beyond books written by Sant Waryam Singh. But it consists more of instructions of how to progress... I have heard that nothing beats having the sangat of someone who has actually gone through the stages because there will be many hurdles along the way and Maya will try its absolute best to hold you back or distract you on your path. For example when you start seeing lights of the different chakras/taats poeple can get lost by just looking at them thinking they made it. I don't even have the answer because I haven't seen any lights yet. I think you need to remain focused on the dhun because shabad is higher than taats/colours. Any kind of vision is considered maya and to be ignored. But to contradict that how will one know when Waheguru is staring one in the face? I guess only time will tell.

    May Waheguru guide us all safely to his pavitar charan...

    On this marg we have to be patient and persevere on, just have faith and keep walking. Myself included.

    gobi(n)dh milan kee eih thaeree bareeaa || This is your chance to meet the Lord of the Universe.

    Oh! and I forgot to thank you for always updating this thread. Makes my day when I see another new post made into this thread. And no matter whether anyone's replying or not...you keep updating.

    When I first starting 'following' this thread, it had probably about 900 views....and today it has more than 1200!!!!

    That says quite a lot...doesn't it?

    Any kind of vision is considered maya and to be ignored.

    Only vision or sound as well?

    What about the 'tunnel like' appearance after a couple of minutes? What does that mean?

    I had always thought that the sounds that start playing according to the Waheguru Mantar 'vidhi' I chant, were made up by my mind. I kind of wished for it to go away (if it was my mind's play)... When it kept repeating every time I sat, I kinda felt really down because of my 'assumption' (?) of my mind doing it.

    Reading your post has made me think about it again. I used to always think that the 'anhad shabad' would start suddenly and not with a faint sound in the beginning.

  6. Has anyone come across a proper 'list' of what happens on the journey of meditation? I believe it must be different for everyone according to their past lives etc. but has any mahapurakh clarified about this?

    (Also, I don't mean 'Naam di Avastha' as Baba Hari Singh Randhawe wale have explained...but actually about what happens...as in what one begins to see and hear.)

  7. No offence...but after a lovely start....there was SO much in that article that has actually shocked me!

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    "No, we were not vegetarians. Bebe Ji cooked a mean chicken or ‘bakra’ curry and that was in gurdwara premises. There was no fuss about meat eating and becoming vegetarians as a Sikh religious practice until after I left Malaysia – which was in the early 70’s."

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    "The conversation went something like this.

    Baba Ji: Beta, your Bapu Ji tells me that you feel you are not ready for ‘amrit’

    Me: Baba Ji, I will not be able to handle all the expectations of ‘amrit’ just yet.

    Baba Ji: Chal beta. Let us go through all your apprehensions.

    Me: I will not be able to do all the Nitnem banis expected of me.

    Baba Ji: Can you do JapJi in the morning, Rehras at dusk and Sohila at night?

    Me: I already do those.

    Baba Ji: Well, we have no problem. As time goes by add Jaap Sahib and Sawayiyay as Nitnem. Occasionally do the full Anand Sahib. In fact you will find that doing Sukhmani Sahib occasionally is also very uplifting. It will help you in your studies and even in your sports! Can we agree on that?

    Me: yes, Baba Ji.

    Baba Ji: You know what is expected of you and let me assure you that you will get supreme bliss and a sense of well-being every time you do all the banis! Next?

    Me: Baba Ji, 5 kekar. I cannot keep all 5 kekar on my person all the time. I love my sports and cannot be lugging around a kirpan, a kachhera and even a kanga in my hair. In fact when I play hockey, I am even expected to take my kara off as it can hurt an opponent.

    Baba Ji: Beta, I have one important question for you. Do you have intentions of cutting your hair into the future?

    Me: (I was shocked at even being asked that). No Baba Ji, I shall always keep my hair. I am proud to be a Sikh!

    Baba Ji: (Smiling, seeing the look of shock on my face.) Then Beta, we have no problems. The other kekars are man-made. They can come off and on as required. They are loving gifts from you bapu – Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Treasure them. Keep them. In fact learn how to wield a kirpan for defence and learn self-defence. Treasure your kachhera – do not go chasing after loose women or any woman for that matter. Wear the kara as your ornament from Guru Ji. Does that answer your question?

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    "I do not think I could go through today’s amrit because it appears more like a prison sentence instead of making one feel liberated. I have seen amritdharies lining up to partake of amrit again because they had to take their kirpans off and put them into their luggage when they took air flights. I know of amritdharies keeping kangas in their pockets because they have no hair to comb any more, and cannot keep the kanga in their dastaars. I have known of amritdharies not going swimming or learning how to swim because they cannot put on swimming trunks over their oversize kachheras. I have seen amritdharies whose hair had to be shaved partially (from the knees or from the chest for ECG’s etc.) retaking amrit because of this necessary removal of hair. I see ‘amrit-giving’ punj pyaray representatives insisting on intending amritdharies being strict vegetarianism when that was never an issue in the past.

    Do not get me wrong! I admire those strict amritdharies who keep a rigid discipline – up to five banis in the morning besides Rehras and Sohila; full 5 kekars on their person; strict vegetarians; some even sit cross-legged on the floor to eat their food; etc. but I honestly cannot see a majority of today’s Sikh youth even partaking of amrit with this degree of rigidity. In my day almost all youth partook of amrit. Today, unfortunately, amrit has taken on a cultish ‘feel’ and less and less Sikh youth partake of it. Those who do, have the tendency of becoming rather cultish themselves – like the Akhand Kirteni Jatha or end up being followers of some ‘sant’. They also have a tendency of holding themselves aloof from other Sikhs who, they perhaps feel, are not up to their mark. I miss the ol’ days."

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    "We all dressed in one way. We all wore colourful ‘pointi’ turbans and all wore colourful shirts and trousers, except for the Bhai Sahibs or Giani Jis who wore white dastaars and white kudta-pajamas. Now we have those who belong to one cult or another – wearing round turbans or turbans which look side to side and only in white or blue and wearing medieval looking clothes. There are those to whom the ‘bana’ means bare legs with long cholas. Others have tight pajamas under long ‘cholas’. They only wear dark blue or white. This is all as prescribed by their chosen ‘sant’ or mukhi. Again, let me reiterate, amongst them are some very close friends of mine and some very sincere and humble Sikhs. But, I miss the simpleness of the good ol’ days."

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    I am utterly and inexplicably SHOCKED!

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