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  1. I think its just a book an idol worship makes no sense to me

    God is every where according to sikhism and not confinded in a book

    i would ask you not to disrespect guru sahib by calling him a book

    and N3o i did not expect you and other members here to accept this guys wording!!

    its not a book, its guru sahib , read bhai nand lal's rehatnama

    ਚੌਪਈ
    Chaupaee
    ਸ਼ਬਦ ਸੁਣੇ ਗੁਰ ਹਿਤ ਚਿਤ ਲਾਏੇ
    Saabad Sunay Gur Hit Chit Laaayay
    Hearing the Shabad with concentration, and by putting mind into the Guru,
    ਗਿਆਨ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਗੁਰ ਸੁਣੇ ਸੁਣਾਏੇ ॥ (੧੭)
    Giaan Saabad Gur Sunay Sunaaayay ॥ (੧੭)
    He should listen and make others heed the Guru’s enlightening Shabad.(17)
    ਜੋ ਮਮ ਸਾਥ ਚਾਹੇ ਕਰ ਬਾਤ
    Jo Mam Saad Chaahay Kar Baata
    One who wants to communicate with me,
    ਗ੍ਰ੍ਰ੍ਰੰਥ ਜੀ ਪੜ੍ਹ੍ਹ੍ਹੇ ਸੁਣੇ ਬਿਚਾਰੇ ਸਾਥ ॥ (੧੮)
    Granth Jee Parhhhhay Sunay Bichaaray Saad ॥ (੧੮)
    He may read, listen to and ponder over Granth Jee.(18)
    ਜੋ ਮੁਝ ਬਚਨ ਸੁਣਨ ਕੀ ਚਾਇ
    Jo Mujh Bachan Sunan Kee Chaai
    Ones who aspires to listen to my sermons,
    ਗ੍ਰ੍ਰ੍ਰੰਥ ਪੜੇ ਸੁਣੇ ਚਿੱਤ ਲਾਇ ॥ (੧੯)
    Granth Parhay Sunay Chit Laai ॥ (੧੯)
    Diligently, should he read and recite Granth Jee.(19)
    Mayraa Roop Ganrrad Jee Jaana
    Deem Granth Jee as my embodiment,
    ਇਸ ਮੇਂ ਭੇਤ ਨਹੀਂ ਕੁਝ ਮਾਨ ॥ (੨੦)
    Is Mayn Bhayt Naheen Kujh Maan ॥ (੨੦)
    do not think there is any difference between me and granth ji.
  2. You make me laugh a bit mate: the other week you were defending the actions of some pendu nihangs shooting dead another Singh for no good reason; like it was acceptable tradition amongst 'native SInghs'. But today a little swearing between Sikhs is beyond the pale for you... lol

    if you remember correctly , even there i was pointing at you for foul mouthing at fellow sikhs.

  3. the stupidity and the way of talking of singhs over here amazes me, how foul mouthed you all are.
    to foul mouth and talk bad with a singh , is considered tankhiya

    52 hukams match perfectly with rehat and guru sahib.

    does our guru teach to talk like this to other fellow sikhs?

    i feel like reading fight between toddlers !!

  4. Why would I take Amrit? And give up thousands of years of history? For what?

    Nope, we don't need anything from you. Just STOP using our teachings, modifying them to suit your own agenda. As a Hindu, I don't need to learn anything from Sikhism. Its the other way around.

    Always has been. From the time Sikhs went undercover to Haridwar to get a morsel of knowledge with new names and disguises.

    another person , to not listen to . i got 2 in my list here

    i wish there was a block button i could just block these 2

  5. hazar unus in hadis habibi
    it is mentioned in Hadis Habibi. Arrival of Guru Nanak was also prophesised in Bavikhat Purana .
    Hazrat Naimat ullah Shah Wali , a fakir wrote
    His name would be NANAK. Populace will give attention to him. This powerful Fakeer [seer] will become famous.
    26 shaloks of agman of Guru nanak dev ji mentioned in bhavish puran . thousands of year before he was born
  6. joth roop har aap guroo naanak kehaayo ||
    The Embodiment of Light, the Lord Himself is called Guru Nanak.

    thaa thae a(n)gadh bhayo thath sio thath milaayo ||
    From Him, came Guru Angad; His essence was absorbed into the essence.

    a(n)gadh kirapaa dhhaar amar sathigur thhir keeao ||
    Guru Angad showed His Mercy, and established Amar Daas as the True Guru.

    amaradhaas amarath shhathra gur raamehi dheeao ||
    Guru Amar Daas blessed Guru Raam Daas with the umbrella of immortality.

    gur raamadhaas dharasan paras kehi mathhuraa a(n)mrith bayan ||
    So speaks Mat'huraa: gazing upon the Blessed Vision, the Darshan of Guru Raam Daas, His speech became as sweet as nectar.

    moorath pa(n)ch pramaan purakh gur arajun pikhahu nayan ||1||
    With your eyes, see the certified Primal Person, Guru Arjun, the Fifth Manifestation of the Guru. ||1||

  7. No offense to the sane element on this Forum but there are 10s of instances where Guru Sahibans collaborated with Mughals included participation in campaigns against Hindus (Assam by Guru teg bahadur and rajsthan, Deccan by Guru Gobind Singhji). There are also recorded instances where Guru sahib (or their sahibzadas) lived in Aurangzeb's darbar!

    na chedo eho jehe embarrassing jakham.

    When mandirs were getting burned down...

    Such a lowlife would come out with nothing but cheap jibes.

    Tridevs were in the same place where your eesht (if they are different from Sanatanis/Hindus) were when Abdali destroyed your lone temple harimandir three times. Had there been more Sikh temples, they would have met the same fate, stop living in delusion. the Tridevs were at the same place when Muslims brought down 1000s of your temples in Pakistan in 1947.

    Never forget 1947 (forget destroyed/defiled Sikh temples and 200-300,000 Sikh children, women men killed by Muslims in 1947 as it would damage your evil Khalistani-Muslim brotherhood).

    Khush hain hunn?

    okay , not reading someones views anymore who is questioning what guru's did .

  8. Total respect for your sentiments Neo but where is that puratan literature? I have given you the name of the Granth from where i derived this information about a havan being performed when Guru sahib got married.

    Also, what is the significance of Kandh Sahib Gurdwara in batala?

    This is the place where Guru sahib got married BY A PANDIT.

    A painting from the Gurdwra showing a pandit and the hawan vedi.

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    even if the rites were performed by pandit, guru sahib did parikrama around mahamantar which was given to him by Akal purakh .

  9. ਵਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Puratan Measurement of time

    Pehar timings

    1 pehar= 6 hrs to 9 hrs

    2 pehar= 9 hrs to 12 hrs

    3 pehar= 12 hrs to 15 hrs

    4 pehar= 15 hrs to 18 hrs

    5 pehar= 18 hrs to 21 hrs

    6 pehar= 21 hrs to 24 hrs

    7 pehar= 0 hrs to 3 hrs

    8 pehar= 3 hrs to 6 hrs

    Further

    Reference to calculation of time in SGGS:

    ਅੱਖ ਦੇ ੧੫ ਫੋਰ = ੧ ਵਿਸਾ।
    ੧੫ ਵਿਸੁਏ = ੧ ਚਸਾ।
    ੩੦ ਚਸੇ = ੧ ਪਲ।
    ੬੦ ਪਲ = ੧ ਘੜੀ।
    ਸਾਢੋ ੭ ਘੜੀਆਂ = ੧ ਪਹਰ।
    ੮ ਪਹਰ = ੧ ਦਿਨ ਰਾਤ।
    ੧੫ ਥਿਤਾਂ;
    ੭ ਵਾਰ;
    ੧੨ ਮਹੀਨੇ, ਛੇ ਰੁੱਤਾਂ।
    15 blinks of eye= 1
    Vissa;
    15 Vissas’= 1 Chassa;
    30 chassas’= 1 Pal;
    60 pals’= 1 karih;
    7and half karihs’= 1 pehar;
    8 pehars’= 24 hours [day/night].
    There were 15 Tithis’ = days of lunar month; 7 vaars= days of the week, 12 months and 6 seasons

    Giani Sant singh ji maskeen explains division of time in the following katha on Kirtan sohila.
    Please listen from minute 58 onwards

    PS- more vedic explaination
    more further deep explanation

    http://veda.wikidot.com/vedic-time-system

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