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Amarjeet Singh_1737

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  1. 1.) The murder was done in broad daylight. More than 16 people testified against your sachkhand vasi jathedar. He invoked Giani Zail Singh's protection and went away scot-free. 2.) This was a conflict between two brothers, they decided to get the Nihangs involved because both were religious and felt Santa Singh could settle the matter amiably. Of course you are free to believe the opposite if you want because, yes, Santa Sio is Sachkhand vasi after all. 3.) His nangs set up a horse farm there. It was only with his death that they were finally thrashed and chased away. Balbir Singh has made no effort to recover this farm- so of course the villagers perceive him as a true Nihang. 4.) I am affiliated with no Jatha as I don't believe that such affiliations are either conducive or necessary to follow Sikhi. 5.) We aren't the only ones with a similar tale to tell. This proclivity for land grabs is evidenced all over the Punjab and Santa Singh's name is brought up repeatedly.
  2. Several of my relations are still dragging their feet in courts because this pathetic excuse of a Nihang promised to resolve their land dispute, murdered the main players and then took over all the land for himself. Obviously this does not concern you, but there are many others who have a similar tale to tell. These are signs of a true Gurmukh only for the NRI nangs who deify him as their Guru.
  3. The Sarbloh Granth steek was plagiarized off Akali Nurang Singh Ji's work; the Panth Prakash was similarly plagiarized off the SGPC commissioned exegesis.
  4. If we can accept Ala Singh as a perfect Gurmukh, only then can a traitor like Santa Singh be accepted as being sachkhand vasi.
  5. Exactly, the same Giani Inderjit Singh. That idiot Mirch even confronted this guy with pictures on a similar thread on Sikhsangat.
  6. Never realized that Taksal now possessed the prerogative to declare someone a traitor and then dispatch them straight to Sachkhand.
  7. Mate, why don't you wash the Sukha off your bootha and wake up. Even the hardcore Taksalis are beginning to support Nidar. Look at his Canada seminar. Who turned up to watch? None other than Giani Inderjit Singh.
  8. Santa, at the end of the day, did not possess the guts which Poolha and Umranangal (and in no way am I condoning their actions) did. He was, essentially, overly ambitious but lacked the political acumen to realize his desires. On one hand he lost favor with the Sikhs, with the Akalis and then with his beloved Indra. The Budha-Dal, naturally, cannot admit to his failings; for them he is Guru incarnate. The truth, however, eventually manifests and whatever ludicrous myths the UK nangs construct- 'many Budha-Dal shahids were in Operation Bluestar;' 'Baba Ji warned the Sant against Akali treachery;' etc etc- they will soon be forced to confront the truth: they are fast becoming irrelevant, and their dearly departed Jathedar Santa will not be able to restore them to their pristine glory. All I see is NRI kids being fed the usual concoction of warriordom, historicity and myth to enroll them in an exclusive club whilst Jathedars fleece their parents.
  9. You read my comments again, admin cut, and you will see I was neither for the Sant nor against; but admin cut-al-qaum will always be Indra's stooge (or lover).
  10. And what is the alternative? A weakened man in Nanded beset by factionalism on all sides? An opium addict and his bunch of NRI supporters? P.S. John Singh sounds much better.
  11. For all we know, Balbir might be the true Jathedar. After all the pictures Crystal posted, its beginning to seems as if all these Jathedars are just winding up idiot kids in the UK.
  12. Typical admin cut retort, bring up the usual 'they shouldn't have been in their' line when obese-al-qaum is scrutinized.
  13. After Bluestar- family's still insistent it was Santa Singh who ordered their murders. I am hunting down the original publication still. '... Ranjit Singh, an important functionary of the Nihang sect called "Buddha Dal," was appointed as head of the organization after its the chief Santa Singh was ex-communicated by the Sikh religious establishment for lending support to the government after the June 1984 operation Bluestar, Santa Singh received the support of the central government and he continued to remain influential. According to Simarjit Kaur (Ranjit's sister-in-law), Santa Singh managed to take his revenge and get Ranjit Singh murdered.''Reduced to Ashes, The Insurgency and Human Rights in Punjab: Final Report,' pg. 380.
  14. On what merit could Santa Singh acquire Jathedari of Akal-Takhat? I have already substantiated that the fool was in cohorts with Congress pre-Bluestar, the truth requires no vilification. Secondly, stop with the pathetic canards constructed by the nangs from Midlands regarding the Budha-Dal and the Dharam Yudh Morcha; I would expect them of someone like Kamalroop Singh. Let's face it, the Dal acted contrary to Panthic interests. Thirdly on one hand you assert that the Sant and Indra were one and then yourself dismiss your contention by claiming the contrary- at least the Sant (if your tale is to be accepted) turned against Indra unlike the Nihangs who bowed down to her.
  15. There is supposed to be a publication in the Ajit which lists at least 22 cases against Santa Singh. I was informed that the information was submitted, to the newspaper, by Akali-Nihang Ranjit Singh of the Dal. One of the chief functionaries of the Vaheer, Ranjit Singh and several others soon parted ways from Santa Singh after he began castigating the Dharam Yudh Morcha. He collated evidence against the Jathedar and submitted it to Ajit which printed it in consecutive editions. Santa Singh had both Ranjit Singh and his younger brother murdered- the case is still in the Punjab High Court. Political privilege, especially from Giani Zail Singh, allowed Santa Singh to get away with a lot. My grandfather was telling me how the Akalis and Congress, both, used him as their strongman whilst he thought that he was playing them both off against each other. In Kaithal, Kurukshetra, in the 70's his Nihangs were involved in an altercation with local Sikhs and Hindus over land allocated to the region post-partition. It seems two brothers could not decide how much of the land to divide between themselves and they invited Santa Singh to resolve the matter. With his archetypal cry of, 'but we are the Guru Panth Khalsa...' Santa Singh and his Nihangs forcefully evicted the conflicted parties and took over their entire property. Departing for the Punjab, Santa Singh left behind some Nihangs to ensure that the land remained in the hands of the Dal. Several of these caretakers began molesting local women ultimately leading to an encounter with the paramilitary. Several Nihangs were killed in the ensuing melee; surprisingly, the Akali-Dal not only paid Santa Singh a financial reward to give to the families of his dead Nihangs but also ensured that the media only published his perspective of the story. At a higher level, Congress obfuscated all attempts at bringing him to justice.
  16. Picture is from when he presented his initial publication on the Dasam Granth to Baba Prem Singh Ji. Wasn't this Sangat Singh also named in some grooming case or something? Or was that another individual with the same nomenclature?
  17. Contradicting yourself now aren't you? The initial thrust of the argument, regarding Santa Singh, was his close connection with Congress rather than Sant Jarnail Singh's. Please do not attempt to derail the topic because some nangs are starting to burn.
  18. Here is something else I found: An interesting excerpt from Cinestaan; it seems 'Nanak Shah Faqir' wasn't the only controversial Sikh film. Dara Singh's 'Raaj Karega Khalsa,' initially opposed by Giani Zail Singh, also fell foul of the Budha-Dal. Intriguingly, Santa Singh not only threatened bloodshed if the film was released, but also dispatched 30 of his goons to prevent advance screenings of the film. Later when Dara Singh informed Rajiv Gandhi of the matter, he received a prompt apology from Santa Singh. What are we to make of all this? 'The film was an expensive production and when Raj Karega Khalsa got clearance from the CBFC to be released in Punjab, it did well on its first day. But two days after the film's release, Giani Zail Singh, then chief minister of Punjab, wanted to see it. Zail Singh asked for a few changes in dialogues. Dara Singh went ahead and changed the word sarkar (government) to raj (rule). Further, Zail Singh wanted the blue turbans in the film [indicating the Akalis] to be changed to white and the name of the film also to be changed. “Two days later, a little-known sect in Punjab, called the Budha Dal, raised an objection, and its chief, Baba Santa Singh, took over from where Gianiji had left off, and declared a ban on the film. Addressing a congregation, Santa Singh, adorned with glistening weapons, presented a formidable image, and thundered from a podium, ‘How can Dara Singh with his chopped tresses play a jathedar [ordained Sikh clergyman]?" According to the book, Dara Singh went to Santa Singh and tried to reason with him. Instead, Santa Singh told his followers, “If this sanctimonious (sic) film is allowed to release, beware all, there will be riots; there will be bloodshed!” Strangely, Santa Singh also refused to watch the film before banning it. It was a tough time for Dara Singh as he had borrowed a lot of money to make the film. The leaders of the Akali Dal suggested that he release the film district by district in Punjab. The film’s title was changed from Raj Karega Khalsa to Sava Lakh Se Ek Ladaun, a nod to the Akali movement during the Emergency, and it was eventually re-released a year and a half later in the Punjabi district of Hoshiarpur. Then too, the screening was disrupted by Santa Singh, who sent some 30 men to stop it. The men were met by Dara Singh who asked them to watch the film first. They did and were bowled over by both the film and the earnest Dara Singh. However, when they returned and reported that the film had nothing offensive in it, they were punished by Santa Singh. The baba had the men “put into cages, had their noses pierced and with faces blackened, paraded through the village. ‘Let this be a lesson to all those who disobey my orders’.” Slowly but surely, Sava Lakh Se Ek Ladaun was released in more places from Ludhiana to Jalandhar. But the film’s release in Amritsar was eventually cancelled, as Santa Singh incited both the Akalis and the Nihangs to protest against it outside the theatres. With the threat of riots looming, Dara Singh called off the film's screening... ...Later, in 1979, when Dara Singh was campaigning for the Congress with both Zail Singh and Sanjay Gandhi for the mid-term Lok Sabha election, the subject of the banned film came up. All it took was a word from Sanjay Gandhi and the film was released the next day. Not only that, Dara Singh received a letter of apology from Santa Singh who had blocked the film so vehemently.' -Cinestaan, 19 November 2017.
  19. I asked some relatives who were around back then. Santa Singh, basically, was a Congress supporter from the start.
  20. Interestingly enough, in my experience, its the Nihangs who degrade him more than any other jatha/samprada.
  21. Contrary to modern depictions of the first Nanak, it is an accepted fact among the Nihangs that the Guru carried a sword and quoit. This picture, from Harjinder Sunner, depicts this fact clearly.
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