amardeep

thank u for the link ..i'll take a look at it.

Sath Shree Akaal Jii. i was wondering what nirgun/sargun is? can someone please find me some articles about it, or explain to me? Thank u in advance.. -Amardeep

i dont have a source unfortunattely... do u think its a fake?

i recieved them on a email and all it says was "Guru Gobind Sings 51 hukamnamas" the email was like this: 1) Dharam di Kirat karni - Earn by honest means. 2) Daswand dena - Give one tenth of your salary. 3) Gurbani kantth karni - Memorize Gurbani. 4) Amrit Vaelae utthna - Wake up Amrit Vela (before dawn). 5) Sikh sewak di sewa ruchi naal karni - Serve a Sikh Servant with devotion. 6) Gurbani dae arth Sikh vidhvana tuo parrhnae- Learn the meanings of Gurbani from Sikh Scholars. 7) Punj Kakaar di Rehat drirh kar rukhni - Follow the discipline of the 5 K's strictly. 8) Shabad da abhihas karna - Practice Shabad Gurbani in life. 9) Sat-Saroop Satgur da dhian dharna - Concentrate on the True Guru (God). 10)Guru Granth Sahib Ji noo Guru mananaa - Accept the Guru Granth Sahib as Guru. 11)Kaarjaan dae arambh vich ardaas karni - At the beginning of a task, do ardaas. 12)Jaman, maran, ja viah mokae Jup da paatth kar tihaaval (Karaah Parsaad) kar anand sahib dia punj paurian, ardaas, pratham punj pyaariaan atae hazoori granthi noo vartaa kae oprunth sangat noo vartaaouna - At birth, death, or marriage ceremonies, do Japji Sahib, make Karaah Parshaad, do five stanzas of anand sahib, do ardaas, and then distribute Karaah Parshaad to the Panj Pyare, the Granthi, and then to the sangat. 13)Jad tak Karaah Parshaad Parshaad vartadaa rahae sadh sangat addol batthee rahae - Until Karaah Parshaad is completely distributed, the Sangat should remain sitting and unmoving. 14)Anand Viah bina grahist nahi karna - Do not start married life without Anand Karaj (Sikh ceremony of marriage). 15)Par-Istri, Ma-Bhain, Dhi-Bhain, kar jaanani. Par Istri da sang nahi karna - Recognize all other women other than your wife as mothers and sisters. Do not engage in marital behavior with them. 16)Istri da mooh nahi fitkaarnaa - Do not silence your wife? 17)Jagat-jootth tambaaku bikhiaa da tiaag karna - Abandon the worldly, false tobacco-poison. 18)Rehatvaan atae naam jupan vaalae gursikhaa di sangat karni - Keep the company of Sikhs who follow the Rehat and meditate on the Name (of God). 19)Kum karan vich daridar nahi karna - Dont't be lazy while doing work. 20)Gurbani di katha tae keertan roaz sunanaa atae karna - Listen and do kirtan and Gurbani discourses daily. 21)Kisae di ninda, chugali, atae eirkha nahi karni - Do not engage in slander, gossip or spite anyone. 22)Dhan, jawaani, tae kul-jaat da abhiman nahi karnaa (Nanak daadak tahe duae goath. Saak guru sikhan sang hoath) - Do not take pride in wealth, youth and caste. (Mother and Father's caste both castes. All Sikhs of the Guru are siblings)? 23)Mat uchi tae suchi rakhni - Keep the religious discipline high and pure. 24)Shubh karman tao kadae naa ttarnaa - Do not refrain from doing Righteous deeds. 25)Budh bal da daataa vaheguroo noo jaananaa - Recognize God as the giver of intellect and strength. 26)Sugandh (kasam sahu) dae kar itbaar janaaoun vaalae tae yakeen nahi karna - Do not believe a person who swears (one who tries/attempts to convince someone with a 'saun or saugandh'). 27)Sutantar Vicharna. Raaj Kaaj dian kamaan tae doosrae mutaa dia purshaan noo huk nahi daenaa - Rule Independently? In the affaris of government, do not give people of other religions authority/power. 28)Raajniti parhni - Study politics. 29)Dushman naal saam, daam, bhaed, aadiak, upaa vartnae - With the enemy, practice/deploy the various techniques/tactics of diplomacy (saam, daam, dand, bhed). 30)Shaster vidyaa atae ghorhae di savaari da abhiaas karna - Practice the knowledge of weaponry and horse riding. 31)Doosrae mataa dae pustak, vidyaa parhni. Pur bhrosaa drirh Gurbani, Akal Purakh tae karnaa - Study the books and knowledge of other faiths. But keep trust in Gurbani and Akal Purukh. 32)Gurupdaesaa noo dhaaran karna - Follow the teachings of the Guru. 33)Raheraas da paath kar kharae ho kae ardaas karni - After Rehras Paatth, do Ardaas standing up. 34)Saun valae sohila atae 'paun guru pani pita...' salok parhna - Recite Sohila and 'paun guru pani pita...' stanza before going to sleep. 35)Dastaar bina nahi rehnaa - Wear a turban at all times. 36)Singha da adha naam nahi bulauna - Do not call a Singh by half of their name (nickname). 37)Sharaab nai saevani - Do not partake of alcoholic drinks. 38)Sir munae noo kanaiaa nahi daeni. Uos ghar daevni jithae Akal Purukh di sikhi ha, jo karzaai naa hovae, bhalae subhaa da hovae, bibaeki atae gyanvaan hovae - Do not given a daughter's hand to a clean shaven. Give her hand in a house where God's Sikhi exists, where the household is not in debt, is of a good nature, is disciplined and knowledgable. 39)Subh kaaraj Gurbani anusaar karnae - Do all work in accordance with Gurbani. 40)Chugali kar kisae da kam nahi vigaarnaa - Do not ruin someone's work by gossip. 41)Kaurha bachan nahi kahinaa - Do not utter bitter statements. 42)Darshan yaatraa gurdwaaraa di hi karni - Make pilgrimages to Gurudwaras only. 43)Bachan karkae paalnaa - Fulfill all promises that are made. 44)Pardaesi, lorvaan, dukhi, apung manukh di yataahshkat sewa karni - Do as much sewa as you can for foreigners, the needy and the troubled. 45)Putari da dhan bikh jananaa - Recognize the property of a daughter as poison? 46)Dikhaawae da Sikh nahi bananaa - Do not become an outward show-off Sikh. 47)Sikhi kesaa-suaasa sang nibhaaouni - Live and die a Keshadhaari Sikh 48)Chori, yaari, tthugi, dhokaa, dagaa bahi karnaa - Refrain from engaging in theft, adultery/promiscuity/permissiveness, fraud, deceit, embezzlement. 49)Sikh da itbaar karna - Believe a Sikh. 50)Jhutthi gavaahi nahi daeni - Do not give false testimony. 51)Dhroh nahi karnaa - Do not cheat. 52)Langar-Parshaad ik ras vartaaunaa - Distribute Langar and Karaah Parshaad with equality.

Sath shri Akal Jee and may Akaal Purkh bless you all. i was reading the 51 hukamnammas of Guru Gobind Singh Jee Maharaj, and stopped at this one: 27)Sutantar Vicharna. Raaj Kaaj dian kamaan tae doosrae mutaa dia purshaan noo huk nahi daenaa - Rule Independently? In the affaris of government, do not give people of other religions authority/power. why is a muslim/hindu not allowed to be in power in a sikh state? this sounds a bit weird to me :S and, are we not allowed to visit mosques and mandirs? 42)Darshan yaatraa gurdwaaraa di hi karni - Make pilgrimages to Gurudwaras only.

Guru Nanak Dev ji said "High is Truth, but higher is truthfull living" so spending hours in stupid debates are just worthless, and instead we should focus on helping the people around us. do you love your creator? if you do, then serve your fellow man, and leave aside stupid religious debates where you wont achieve anything as the muslims at that page does not accept our answers..

okay..well i will thank you for your reply, and u have shed some light over something that has actually bugged me for a long time.. thanks

i have given my answers also on the forum of Islam and sikihsm..: http://www.islamicboard.com/comparative-re...ed=1#post298387 i am amardeep in that page to. let me know if i have said something wrong according to sikhi, as i have only been studying sikhism for a few months..

Sath shri Akal and thanks for taking time to answar my question. so let me see if i have understood your reply. when it says "God Created Himself" it means that he made himself known to people so that there was someone to worship him? on sikhphilosophy someone says that it has to do with creation.. "i created myself" means that he created the universe as he is within all and everything.. ਆਪਣਾ ਆਪੁ ਉਪਾਇਓਨੁ ਤਦਹੁ ਹੋਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਈ ॥ आपणा आपु उपाइओनु तदहु होरु न कोई ॥ aapnaa aap upaa-i-on tadahu hor na ko-ee. He created Himself - at that time, there was no other. ਮਤਾ ਮਸੂਰਤਿ ਆਪਿ ਕਰੇ ਜੋ ਕਰੇ ਸੁ ਹੋਈ ॥ मता मसूरति आपि करे जो करे सु होई ॥ mataa masoorat aap karay jo karay so ho-ee. He consulted Himself for advice, and what He did came to pass. ਤਦਹੁ ਆਕਾਸੁ ਨ ਪਾਤਾਲੁ ਹੈ ਨਾ ਤ੍ਰੈ ਲੋਈ ॥ तदहु आकासु न पातालु है ना त्रै लोई ॥ tadahu aakaas na paataal hai naa tarai lo-ee. At that time, there were no Akaashic Ethers, no nether regions, nor the three worlds. ਤਦਹੁ ਆਪੇ ਆਪਿ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੁ ਹੈ ਨਾ ਓਪਤਿ ਹੋਈ ॥ तदहु आपे आपि निरंकारु है ना ओपति होई ॥ tadahu aapay aap nirankaar hai naa opat ho-ee. At that time, only the Formless Lord Himself existed - there was no creation. ਜਿਉ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਤਿਵੈ ਕਰੇ ਤਿਸੁ ਬਿਨੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਈ ॥੧॥ जिउ तिसु भावै तिवै करे तिसु बिनु अवरु न कोई ॥१॥ ji-o tis bhaavai tivai karay tis bin avar na ko-ee. ||1|| As it pleased Him, so did He act; without Him, there was no other. ||1|| but here it says that there was nothing when he created himself..and that creation first took place later on..so who did he "show" himself to? but as it is, sikhs belive in a God without beginning, and without end?

Sath shri Akaal jee.. do we sikhs belive in an eternal God that has been forever like the muslims, or do we belive in a God that created himself,in other words, have a beginning.. aapay aap upaa-i-an aap keemat paa-ee. He Himself created Himself, and He Himself evaluates Himself. Page 786, Line 9 becuase this next verse says that He is eternal and other says that He has been there forever and since the beginning. too sadaa salaamat nirankaar. ||16|| You, Eternal and Formless One! ||16|| Page 4, Line 11 how are these verses to be understood. can someone shed light on this, or recomend articles about the "creation" of God. Sath Shri Akal.

www.sridasam.org .. see here

the "father of mankind" is a comment by the translater..it is not written in the real Bani.. i got confused also when i read it..

does Guru Nanak have a big "role" in Shia Islam? do they consider him a holy man, or was he just a stranger passing by their country?

how disgusting. stealing from a sacred place like the Harmander Sahab..have people no shame!!!

sounds interesting. most of my shia friends are also iraqis, but they had never heard of Guru Nanak before. do u know how many followers Guru Nanak made in Iraq? i heard something about the "president" of the country became a follower of Guru Nanak but i dont know if its true or not.

hadeeth is like the janam sakhis of Guru Nanak Dev Jee.. it is writings about the Prophet Muhammad. Bukhari is an author who wrote all of these storys down, and a lot of them are false lies degrading Muhammad and Islam .. yet they are looked upon as "sahih" by sunnis meaning they are reliable sources and that these incidents really have taken place (for instance it is mentioned that Muhammad beats up his wives, he orders the murder of a woman, he tortures people and behead them etc).

who attended the conference, and how was it? was it about what diverse religions say about science? for instance the Quran mentions plants in pairs, the SGGS mentions millions of planets etc..

Islam is indeed a great and good religion.. i think that the hadeeth of bukhari and muslim have wrecked up its image.. the "harsh" verses from the Quran is mostly during warfare. Muhammad did do raise the womens status..

Sath shri akal being born into a sikhi family does not mean that God wants u to be a sikh. it has to do with karma...your prevous actions tells which religion you will be born into.. saying that it is Gods will, it would imply that you had nothing to do with it,. kind regards.

javanard u wrote: Next to the tomb of Shaikh Bahlol, a companion of the 7th Imam Musa al Qazim, there is a room dedicated to Gurû Nânak Devi Jî Mahârâj and the Shi'as of the area take care of it and have great respect for Mahârâj. can u please provide me with a source that explains this further? it sounds really interesting..