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On 5/11/2019 at 9:49 AM, Jungkaur96 said:

If guru sahib didn't start baba bidhi chand dal why does everyone claim they did? If baba avtar singh ji is the 12th mukhi who are the first 9? I know of baba daya singh ji and baba sohan singh ji but can't find any historic record of the first 9 anywhere. I also want to apologise because I've only been amritdhari since hola mohalla 2017 and i don't understand why someone would lie about their lineage especially somebody as famous as baba ji. It makes me question the motives behind it and I'm nobody really but it would be very disheartening if true.

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On 5/9/2019 at 11:03 AM, Gabbarsingh said:

Just a bunch of liars after money and recognition. Avtar singh inherited everything that he has its common knowledge in dalpanth that baba santa singh used to openly call bidhichandiye prithichandiye saying they 'ate' all of the gurus golak money. They are insulting the blessings of mahapurakh baba sahib singh ji kaladhari by claiming to be around from the gurus time when it was budha dal who gave them their first nishan nagare and horses. Its a shame that these days so called 'sants' are so blinded by maya and ego that they 'forget' their origins.

Never has Baba Avtaar singh said that the dal was started by Guru Hargobind sahib ji. You are free to speak fo Baba Ji about this anytime, instead of slandering a mahapurkhs name

From Baba Bidhi Chands lineage comes the current Baba Bidhi Chand Dal. When Jathedar Baba Sahib Singh Ji Kaladhari was imprisoned, Baba Sohan Singh Ji(decendant of Baba Bidhi Chand) used to bring sarbloh bibiki food for Baba Ji and the Singhs. Baba Sahib Singh Ji then gave Nishans and Nagarey to start a new Dal(battalion) under Tarna Dal.

During the time of Maharaja Ranjit Singh Ji, Maharaja gave a lot of money and land to Baba Bidhi Chand Jis lineage hence why current dal is very rich.

Also currently Baba Bidhi Chand dal is in possession of Shastars of Baba Bidhi Chand and Sahib Sri Guru Hargobind sahib Ji.

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7 hours ago, LetsSee said:

Actually, this forum is REALLY bad.

Then leave

18 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

What a great religion! lol

 

I know right! Sounds like what very good people would do! Sell their daughters to sex trade.

You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again." Exodus 21: 7-8

Slavery is allowed in the bible as well as sex slavery.

Hmmmmm

I will not comment anymore

Listening to katha helps get that spark back. Thats why katha was done in the first place. Katha about shaheedis, sakas etc all help

4 hours ago, Reader said:

Because most people cant be arsed with your usual drivel. You keep harping on about science but its apparent you're about as good at science as Ranjit Singh is at controlling his bowels.

We say Sciences is limited to the material and Gurbani transcends all that. You wanted proof and we gave you loads from Gurbani about miracles happening but apparently since science says no, you'll just say Gurbani is false.

We've asked 10 times now, FIND 1 SOURCE pre-1800, anything that says all the things you do. You claim to have core sikhi down so show us. 

Nice, so you cherry picked stuff to prove your point. Did you forget Gurbani also says that God is antarjami (all knowing) that's not possible as a universal consciousness is unscientific as atoms aren't life. Guru Ji also says God gives his Bhagats whatever they want, He's benevolent. The God you keep going on about is impersonal and doesn't care one way or another as Nature is impersonal and thus unable to be benevolent at all, survival of anything else is unimportant to it as it has no sense of self.

The God of Guru Nanak Dev Ji has personal and impersonal guns, so stop ignoring one for the other because it deletes your entire premise.

I've read Stephen Hawking's work, he explicitly points out that God for him=universe. The universe created itself, it doesn't need a creator. Gurbani says that God created this universe and countless others i.e it wasn't self creating. 

shocking, as you hate Hindus yet the Vedas contain EVERYTHING that Spinoza talks about. But "muh hindus bad bad" right?

Before I dissect this "article" (I wouldn't even call it this as its nonsense written by someone with no grasp of either science or basic Gurmat) Congraulations on posting something from Ranjit Singh's own page  you claimed here you don't follow him but you seem to link his crap left, right and centre. I got to ask, has you initiated you into his jatha with mouth to mouth simran? or have you guys gone a bit further?  I just hope he managed to teach you to control your bowels better than he can.

Someone should pick up a physics book once in a while. Everything at the core might be the same, but on larger scales they can be completely different, just like Brahman can expand into infinite beings and each of them are wearing different guises (thus "different") but at the core are the same. Properties change depending on what you adapt

I almost choked on my taco over this. What a load of nonsense, and the fact that you buy into it really makes me chuckle. You want to talk about laws of nature that's fine. So tell me why Guru Nanak Dev Ji didn't sit down and write down all these theories then and there, He could have. You're gonna say "oh cuz the superficial masses wouldn't accept him etc etc" but here's the little snag in your stupid logic. That form of thought was already prevalent in India, that Nature=God=Laws of Nature, it had many forms, namely Ājīvika and Charvaka. Read them, they pretty much say what you're saying. Reincarnation is wrong etc etc.

What more crap, let's take some of these "laws" as you guys call them.  Morality falls into this, these laws have no right or wrong yet Gurmat always does. By your logic it would be ok to force yourself on a women if it was for the progression of the species? By your own logic, yes. What law in the universe says that God (or as you dudes say "nature") laughs and takes a saroop to give darshan to Bhagat Naamdev Ji. What law says that a cow that's been dead for ages comes back to life and God himself gives Darshan to Bhagat NaamDev Ji, what law of science says that Man can float on water without aid like Bhagat Kabir Ji (all these are some of the countless examples in Gurbani). Science is restricted but God isn't bound by it, he can make and break them as he wishes.

No one says that, Science is the most plausible explanation of a certain event, its an uncertainty (that's the very definition of the scientific principle). Gurbani is absolute, For a  Sikh Gurbani will always be above science, not on the same level.

no it isn't. That goes against the very definition of what religion is. 

In that exact text Guru Gobind Singh Ji has a conversation with Waheguru, so tell me how an unfathomable God who's inaccessible is talking to him. 

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On 11/7/2018 at 5:46 AM, dalsingh101 said:

Why don't you post the whole source with a page reference point?

 

You've been on this forum for years. You know we have these standards. 

Sadly, i have actually stopped visiting these forums and when i do (which is once in a blue moon) im always on my mobile. All my reference notes are in my laptop.

So do give me some time to go back to my notes.

7 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

It would be nice if you could share such sources in their original form. 

One source would be Naveen Panth Parkash written by Gyani Gyan Singh. 

ਸੁੱਖਾ ਫੀਮ ਸ਼ਰਾਬ ਕਬਾਬੈਂ ਛਕੈਂ ਜਿਿਤਕ ਮਨ ਭਾਵੈ |

this is just one pankti.

Whats funny is how in puratan granths there is panktis that are written about sikhs drinking sharaab . Who are we to know whats right or wrong. Again im not promoting alcohol even one bit, all im saying is we need to look at context before we categorize something and make it a rule.

12 hours ago, Jageera said:

Also,what is the difference between SGGS 'Sanchian' and 'Steek'?Thanks.

Sanchain are volumes of guru granth sahib ji and steeks give meanings and arths of gurbani.

1 hour ago, samurai2 said:

Because his fan boys admire his art, they automatically  take his words for gospel.(they being people on this site)

Tbh, bhagat singhs art is pretty crap. I like harjinder singh sunner soo much better

1 hour ago, samurai2 said:

also mods take me off 'this content needs to be approved ' mode. its annoying.

Just want to say, for all those I've offended or made any hurtful comments to.. 

i would like to take this opportunity to sincerely apologise for........

 

ABSOLUTELY NUTTINK...hahaha

as per Conor McGregor..lol

 

I love ya bro. You are badass

10 hours ago, BhagatSingh said:

Bhaji I know muharni lol. Punjabi is my first language.

Here I am talking about those siharis that are on the last letter of the word.

For example - ਆਦਿ

My point is that this is not pronounced as Aad, as we would normally say it, rather it is pronounced as Aadi.

Have you done muharni from a proper ustaad? Or just by yourself? 

11 hours ago, BhagatSingh said:

Yes I know that. I believe Mata Sahib Dewan to be my mother but Mai Bhago ji, Bibi Bhani ji, Mata Sulakhani ji, Mata Gujri ji, Bebe Nanaki are also my mothers

For amritdhari khalsas(which i know you are not) Mata Sahib Devan is the sole mother. 

According to panth parkash he was a sikh but later faltered and strayed from the path. In the end he saw his mistakes and repented.

2 hours ago, akalpurkh said:

Wow! you guys have justification for each and everything. So big talks, only because nobody for your family was raped and brutally killed. 

I had three family members die and one brutally tortured from 1984-1990 so you can shut your fuckin mouth you little shit. 

5 hours ago, akalpurkh said:

Wow! What an achievement. Kudos to Mahapurkh that he knew that the women would get raped on the streets of Delhi. Still, he didn't feel the need to warn poeple by acting dump, just to please God.

What if this Mahapurkh come to know in advance that his mother and sisters would get raped and brutally killed, would he still be Mute?

Why do we go out on the streets every year for 84 justice? Wouldn't they say is all your Maharaj's hukam?

So you question the hukam of akaal purkh?

White men dont have balls to do shit