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16 minutes ago, sarabatam said:

I was there last year during December if that helps.

I was too. First the committee was missionary, then it came under control of the youths and was renamed Dookh Nivaran. The youth after about a year could not pay the bills properly so they left and now its under some other guy.

7 hours ago, sarabatam said:

I know infamous singh sabha gurdwara in brampton - Sikh Lehar Center recently went through polar opposite committee change and total over haul. I was there at somebody function, they are much more panthic in terms in parchar. They had puratan samparda literature in their library.

That committee has since changed. 

So this book is already out?

does it ship to Canada?

5 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

You and me both. Listening to the videos he isn't really giving any indepth analysis in them. We have done more on this forum than he has.

He lost the plot when he put a naked girl on the cover page. It just insinuating that charitars are all about sex. 

4 hours ago, MrDoaba said:

So he assumed he wouldn't have to turn up. The excommunication was void so to speak (from his perspective). Now he has no choice.

The FB post still refers to him as Farladhari so you could make a conclusion from that possibly.

The excommunication was in may and baba ji got killed in mid august. He could have still gone to baba prem singh who is the main jathedar but he didnt. 

5 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

Is kamalroop still allowed to wear the farla if he has been excommunicated?

What was Baba Bahaadur Singh status in the Dal ? He wasn't the Jathedar but he was still able to issue the excommunication.

When kamalroop goes to hazur sahib and meets with baba prem singh first baba prem singh is gonna take his falra back, because you cannot give a punishment to a farladhari. So his farla will be taken back. Now if he is still wearing the farla its going against the wishes of budha dal.

In the dal there are two jathedars, one is the main jathedar which is like the president and the meet-jathedar who is basically the Vice President. The meet-jathedar is given control by the main jathedar to control the chakarvarti fauj. The main jathedar stays at the budha dal headquarters. 

Baba bahadur singh was meet jathedar of Baba prem singh ji who is the main jathedar. Now that baba bahadur singh died the meet jathedar is Baba Maan Singh Ji

1 hour ago, sarabatam said:

We had to hide last three posts as it was coming across as serious inflammatory rumors, implicating figure to something very serious

Well talk about censorship, this aint not right bro

19 hours ago, MrDoaba said:

Why would he repost it himself then? Because if he doesn't turn up he will be in even deeper shit and he knows it will all go very public. It doesn't make sense.

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It was in may when baba bahadur singh ji excommunicated him,

2 minutes ago, MrDoaba said:

What you think will go down?

I bet his haters are fuming.

He wont go, he had a chance last year to go but he didnt so why would he go now?

1 minute ago, MrDoaba said:

Did you get this from your sources? Because the FB post isn't clear enough - it makes it sound as if he's sort of off the hook.

I reckon he will turn up. He'll just about scrape through it.

I asked some singhs,

even in the post it says that he still has to go to hazur sahib. 

Actually he has been summoned, he still hasnt gone to Hazur Sahib to meet baba prem singh. He is currently in UK and under punishment. He is getting another chance only if he does show up at hazur sahib but for now be is still tankhiyea .

He is only getting another chance to be summoned, cause he was summoned before and didnt go. So he is on a real thin line right now

would this be before or after the kissing situation?

10 minutes ago, MrDoaba said:

Actually I'm sure he went for pesh after Christmas. He was given final warning after which he presented himself. I believe there is a picture. However I don't know what his punishment was, and I think he has also been allowed to keep his Farla.

 

What are the sources veer ji?

I am real weary of this book, he already lost the gist of charitars

4 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

This is one ground where I always wonder why existing mukhis/jathedars don't ,nominate and inaugarate the next jathedar whilst they are of sound mind and body, rather than die and let the rest squabble over it. In the times of the Gurus we had this situation and wherever the Gurus gave thappia to the next Guru, it was always clear, whereas when Guru Sahib didn't, pretenders sprung up, like at Baba Bkala.

He did choose, in 2005 he chose baba surjeet singh ji. Balbir took advantage of baba santa singh when baba santa singh was ill. That was the whole problem

3 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

So was kamalroop's reply taken into consideration at all? Did he present himself before Budha Dal for forgiveness or tankhah?

He did not go to budha dal to ask for forgiveness. He even wrote that he doesnt find that he was wrong. 

And now obviously you probably saw the video of him and his kissing antics

42 minutes ago, samurai2 said:

Not a lot to shed. You have good and bad in all sampradas/jathas. 

We know that,

could you just tell how many nihang jathebandi are in uk? I know there is kamalroop faction, there is budha dal uk and there is misl nehklank. What is each factions stance on who is jathedar and whats up with each other etc. 

The akjs were real popular about 20 years ago but they are dying down

4 minutes ago, amardeep said:

I dont think there is any case of death of kirtan. On the contrary I see a revival amongst Sikhs wanting to learn the traditional arts of kirtan, especially in the west

I see this too, especially in canada. We have raag darbars and people trying to learn raag kirtan here as well.

2 hours ago, samurai2 said:

just a point, as iterated in my previous post. Unless you are a practising  nihang or have a close affiliation with them, its best not to comment or start a discussion on such things. 

If so, i will start a discussion on niravir khalsa and the shenanigans surrounding his crew, which includes the bollywood ranjeet dandriwala.

Message to admin- do not close or cut that topic. 

Veer ji could you shed some light on uk nihangs?

35 minutes ago, Soulfinder said:

I am from the Uk and the most closest nihang Budha Dal is Kamalroop Singh and his jatha called blue lions but recently he caught in a controversy.

https://www.facebook.com/bluelionskhalsa/

He is not a nihang, budha dal excommunicated him last year

I am not from the uk but uk has budha dal uk, misl nehklank and a few others. Could somebody who is from the uk nihangs explain whats up in UK?

A lot of nihangs do take feem and Baba joginder singh is one of them as well. 

1 hour ago, samurai2 said:

Also lets have a discussion on raag kirtan. Or do you not want to upset akand kirtani jatha, more like parkhand kirtani jatha. Root admin, are we sleeping now?

Loool

So this is what went down:

Back in the mid 90s Balbir Singh wanted to and tried to become jathedar of Budha Dal. Baba Santa Singh kicked balbir singh out and balbir then formed a separate budha dal. In 2005 Baba Santa Singh made Baba Surjeet Singh Ji jathedar, and all major nihang jathebandis were there such as tarna dal,bidhi chand dal, harian bela dal etc. Everybody proclaimed Baba Surjeet Singh as jathedar. 

Around 2006 Balbir came back and asked for forgiveness from Baba Santa Singh and because Balbir is Baba Santa singh’s nephew baba santa singh forgave him. Around 2006-2008 baba santa singh started to get ill and that is when balbir started to manipulate baba santa singh. Before baba santa singh died balbir got baba santa singh to sign budha dal over to balbir. At this fime baba santa singh had no idea what was happening cause he was ill. In 2008 SGPC and niddar made balbir the jathedar of budha dal. No other dal came to give balbir a siropa. It was only niddar and sgpc. 

When Baba Surjeet Singh Ji found out that baba santa singh died the whole fauj tried to go to baba ji’s funeral but balbir and his nakli fauj stopped baba ji from coming and did not allow baba surjeet singh to see baba santa singh. 

Later on Baba surjeet singh went with the fauj to balbir and they had a fight there which in the process balbirs brother got killed. (It was determined that baba surjeet singh’s fauj did not actually fire first). Balbir then tried putting Baba Surjeet singh ji in jail a few times and finally suceeded after some time. Baba surjeet singh then told Baba joginder singh ji to be jathedar in his place cause baba surjeet singh ji cant rule the fauj in jail. Baba joginder singh ji was more bhagti oriented but accepted. Baba ji was also known to frequent UK sangat as well. At this same time balbir was pressuring Baba joginder singh to accept balbir as jathedar cause balbir was saying that if he didnt he would put baba joginder singh in jail as well. 

On Sept 3rd 2014 Baba Surjeet Singh died in jail due to poor health and living conditions that he recieved in jail. At this time Baba joginder singh was in the UK and could not come for antim saskar etc. The Fauj then decided that they would make Baba Prem Singh the jathedar of budha dal. So Baba prem singh became the 15th jathedar of budha dal. 

When Baba joginder singh came back he was okay with what the fauj had decided but the Singhs who were with Baba Joginder singh did not like what had happened. They were just looking at their own agendas(im not gonna name names right now). There was still prem pyaar with both Baba Prem singh and baba joginder singh, but tensions within both parties cause some rift. 

In 2015 Baba joginder singh proclaimed Balbir as jathedar by giving him a Dastarbandi etc. Balbir said that baba joginder singh is jathedar of rakba and that its good that they came together. Baba prem singh and fauj was pissed as to why Baba joginder singh was going with the person who killed baba surjeet singh ji. 

In November 2015 the sarbat khalsa also proclaimed that Baba Prem Singh was true jathedar of budha dal.

Balbir hasnt gone to nanded cause nobody wants him there. If he even shows up he would get his ass kicked.

In 2017 balbir paid some of baba prem singhs men to murder the chakarvarti jathedar baba bahadur singh ji. Those people who shot baba bahadur singh ji went to jail for some time but balbir got them out and now they are at rakba. Balbir also paid baba bahadur singhs son to leave baba prem singh and go to rakba.

Right now budha dal is in a real bad situation, but in the end the truth shall prevail.

3 hours ago, MrDoaba said:

Do you chill in Bana while posting?

I got my 3 footi so